Space Empires 101 - Galactic Council
 

Peace has come to the quadrant. We, the Royal Corporate Commonwealth, have accepted the Dei-Orphious surrender, other antagonists are no more.

We would propose therefore the establishment of a Galactic Council to deal with any political issues that might arise in a democratic federated manner.

We propose that voting rights in this council be based upon the populations of each empire and that we deal with any political issues that might arise by 3/4 vote.

We further propose that the first issue we address, as a Council, is the rights to the Woostoid Woqua system, now largely vacant of inhabitants due to recent hostilities. We, the RCC forsake all claims to this system except we would like to colonize the 6th (VI) planet there.

OOC: so, the quadrant has just gotten over a big war, and there are a lot of players left - this might make an interesting game for playing out post-war politics, with a Galactic COuncil, etc...Just a thought...

Alarik

Ps: we could use this thread for galactic news and council deliberations...

[ June 23, 2004, 03:44: Message edited by: alarikf ]

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Reflection, surprise, debate. For the future.

- Ambassador Kosh of the Vorlon Empire

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Who would be the security council members under this proposal?

And shouldn't votes be given proportionally to population, at least in the "lower house" and according to afixed number in the security council (or is there an "upper house" in this scheme?)

RCC

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You all seem to be forgetting my contributions. How big would your empires be if I had been on vacation a little longer?

Gentleman, the race is on to colonize planets.
May we embrace true diversity and share more systems together.

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We're not forgetting it at all. WE certainly feel that your empire deserves the lion's share of the spoils, no doubt. We just want to make it all a bit more orderly...

RCC

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RCC has recieved a large portion of intact Die-O territory. I propose that they refrain from colonizing.

I will restrict my colonization to former Die-O and Electrum systems, including neighboring asteroid systems.

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I can agree to refraining from colonizing, that sounds fair. I also ceded two systems to Thermolia this month, to help them rebuild. I don;t think there are actually any empty planets in the core Dei-O systems, but there are a heck of a lot of empty planets in the Woostoid Woqua system. We'll call back my colonizer from going there, we have no problem with that. But this still leaves open the question of how to allocate the WW system planets to others such as Thermolia, Citizen, Rorg, and all the others....

RCC


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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would say that the three surviving superpowers should be the permanent members. Cyber Collective, Royal Corporate Commonwealth, and Citizen Federation would be the three as of right now.

As to votes, each race should be given an equal voice in day to day business. But on maters of security, the superpowers have the biggest stick and therefore the loudest voice.

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That's certainly acceptable to us.

Now...is the disposition of the Woostoid Woqua system to be addressed in an orderly fashion, or is it still a "race to colonize"?

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Our empire is in shambles and it will take years to rebuild to the glory we once had. But with the help of our alliance members it can be done. Getting some order to our systems is first task at hand, having all of our colonies spread out like butter on bread is hurting our people. But we shall complete a ship in the months to come that will enable us to restructure our space and get things in order.

Regent Ragnarok
Of the Rorg Empire

[ June 23, 2004, 20:15: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

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We would suggest the creation of a Council force composed of Warp-opener ships that can assist your empire in this process. We've got at least one we could committ to such an endeavour.

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Please don't forget Eysk. He was there fighting and helping.

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Eysk Imperial Guard is ready to openly collaborate with other races of Galactic Council and will be glad to join the Council. Distribution of votes according to the empire population amount is acceptable. However, 5 members, able to use right of the veto is too much in our opinion. 3 elective members (elected once a year or so) is better.

So long as the status of Woostroid Woqua is dabated, I'm deputed to claim our rights to the planets: Woostroid II, III and XIII. It's our trophies captured during the military operation in this system. At the same time we are ready to discuss the sale or exchange of this planets to any interested empire.

We have a special proposal for RCC: we could convert any number of asteroids inside your territory to planets in exchange for colonies in Mannurepha system. Approx. exchange rate: 2 converted planet to 1 existing colony. Please contact us if you're interested.

If RCC will refuse and if any other empire will find such services useful, our fast and seflsustained stellar manipulators could create a planet, open or close warp points for you in any sector of the known galaxy for a reasonable price. Just let us know.[Shameless ad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ]

Shekk. The Admiral of EIG.

Edit: just read the comments and I agree that Cyber Collective, Royal Corporate Commonwealth, and Citizen Federation are the best pretender to call themselves "The Council Core" (with veto right) even without elections and such.

[ June 23, 2004, 22:27: Message edited by: aiken ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would like to lodge to all who read here a formal request to refrain from colonizing planets in systems formerly controlled by Electrum, that are now in Wendigo control; as members of the alliance in which the wendigo are part of undoubtly know, although we have inherited vast planets and fleets with unimaginable power and riches, our planets are in chaos and in continous rioting, which has crippled our economy; we expect that we will need to colonize more planets within our systems once our current social problems subside, but we will not be able to do so, should some of our more aggresive allies decide to claim uninhabited planets in aforementioned systems, which to our estimation, will cause only unnecessary aggravation on both parties and, I am afraid to say, forced removal of, from this moment on we shall refer as, squatter colonies.

Although us Wendigo had not a big part in the removal of Electrum and the Deis, we believe we should rightfully receive what is now rightfully ours.

We have already recieved communication from the Cyber Collective demanding that we begin in earnest demilitarization and hand over one of our fleets, comprised of 60 to 70 warships for compensation. We have already responded that we will not stand for such attempts at subjugation from our own allies, and we say here that we will not stand for any further attempts from any other empire.

Although that we have just mentioned will now be the official policy of the Wendigo, we understand that many of our allies have had planets taken from them, ships and fleets destroyed by Electrum, and had put into effect immeasurable efforts to bring him down, and that they want to be recompensated for it. As of this moment, those nations that demand recompensation shall have their voices heard, and shall have what they demand, as long as they demand reasonably.

And pertaining to this council matter, the Wendigo, following our policy of neutrality and/or humanitarian participation, hereby declare that we will have no part with the Galactic Council, and declare that decisions of the Galactic Council shall have no effect in Wendigo space. However, we recognize the council's rights to the system of Woostroid Woqua, and shall follow the will of the council, according to our own discretion.

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

OoC: I'll be moving at the end of the month, so if you want your recompensation, ask now.

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As Wendigo Pride would like to keep neutral status I suggest them to determine their borders more precisely. List of the systems would be sufficient. This will make easier to discuss the problem of any contested systems (if they will appear).

EIG.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As you wish, here is a list of systems in which we as of 2410.7 have colonies in, but by no means we have complete control over:

Alemania
Anna
Bisque
Blaga
Charis
Culroon
Da'Atpu
Dysona
Faire
Fwandrei
Gauguin
Hatysa
Indubrama
Luce
Maghemite
Nakhs
New Cylimba
Ord Sabaok
Oxajo
Palomaa
Patterson
Pi'Peoreq
Raushenbakh
Sasha
Strand
Vladimirov
Yatskiv
Yerevan
Zamenhof
Zombie

We would like our borders defined as containing systems mentioned above, and would like to annex:

Iapetus
Uglurz
Grigery
Drillin
Sasha
Raushenbakh

although after discussing with any other nations that are interested in obtaining control over those 6 systems.

And furthermore, although we have spoken of squatter colonies, I, Shir-Khan Mustafa, wish to declare that colonies colonized after 2410.9 inside our declared space will be considered as such, and that colonies that were already colonized shall be known to the pride as rightful colonies of their sovereign nations, and guarantee that their sovereignity shall not be infringed by us.

[ June 23, 2004, 23:53: Message edited by: TerranC ]

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Thermolia agrees in principle with the proposal that has been put forth. And we would like to take this opportunity to claim the 13th and 16th planets in the Wootoid Woquia system. This system is of strategic importance and now a gateway into Thermolian space.

We would like to also add an amendment to the proposal as regards to voting rights. Thermolia proposes the addition of a security council made up of three permanent members, each of whom would have a veto. 2 additional members would be voted in each fifty cycles and serving no more than two consecutive terms. These voted in members would also have a veto. The duty of the Security Council would be to maintain the security of known space. And as a secondary function, it would be the duty of this council to develop a plan for controlling the levels of armament that exist across the galaxy.

All votes would be 1 empire 1 vote, with all maters of security being decided by the Security Council.

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Systems:
Iapetus
Uglurz
Grigery
Drillin
Sasha

...were devastated by my fleets,and can be claimed as spoils of war,if I am fast enough.

Dysona...
was devastated by my fleets,
has but one tiny planet left colonized.

Raushenbakh...
a good part was owned by Dei-Os,
thermolian and Eysk helped to devastate that system.

What Say you all?

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If the Wendigo desire to opt out of the Galactic Council, the RCC will not stand in their way. It is their right. However, we beleive that the galactic council, serving as it should to resolve conflicts of interest peacefully, beleives it is in the interest of all powers and the quadrant to pursue these issues through the matter of the Council.

Furthermore, we do not disagree that allowing a concentration of power in the hands of the Security Council may be a unwise move. Although we make up a portion of the proposed Security Council, we hope (and propose) that the Security Council be, instead, the enforcement arm of the Galactic Council, and that the Galactic Council be ruled by majority decision, with voting based on population.

With that in mind, we reiterate that although we support the Wendigo desire to opt out of the Galactic Council, we beleive that their interests would be better served by having a voice in the workings of the COuncil and, furthermore, that we (the RCC) pledge to endeavour to bring about a solution to this issue that is acceptable to all involved.

As to the issue of colonies, aside from the territorial changes of our holdings that we have already mentioned (ie: ceding of two systems to Thermolia and relenquishment of all rights over Woostoid Woqua) we consider all current holdings to be soveriegn RCC territory. As far as our current maps indicate, there are no empty planets or asteroids in current RCC holdings. And, if there are, the colonizers that we had sent to Woostoid will be going to them soon, anyways. Our policy on this may change, once we get a better handle on what the former Dei-O holdings comprise, but that is our current stance.

Finally, we beleive that the Council should establish a planet, preferably in a relatively central location, upon which each member of the council would have its embassies and a diplomatic housing station. WE would be interested in hearing nominations for suitable planets, and we propose that each member of the council send a mobile shipyard to said planet (when the Council agrees where it is) to build a diplomatic station to house their delegates.

So, we repeat, we beleive the Galactic COuncil is the best venue for the Wendigo to take up their concerns, rather than dismiss it in it's nascent stage or risk marginalization.

RCC

OOC: Isn't politics cool? Frankly, I personally think its fascinating to see the interplay here...and I am very eager to see what happens in this game. There are plenty of issues that could be dealt with in a "galactic council" manner...and plenty of questions...could make for a very different sort of game, almost like play by committee...but I'll shut up now so I don't let my OOC biases influence all this...and, hey, I'm gone for the next five days, so perhaps by the time I get back the whole Galactic COuncil proposal will have been torpedoed by realpolitik...thanks, Alarik

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"We interupt this broadcast of Inter-Galactic Big Brother and cut to an unfolding news story":

The 3d hologram screen becomes shaky and slightly unclear...

A Dei Flag Admiral in full regalia appears in screen.

"I am Fleet Admiral Estekls of the Dei Liberation Organisation. The Dei Governement may have collapsed as a result of the Religious Zealots bent on the subjugation and destruction of the free peoples of this Quadrant, but we will not stand for their barabrism and will fight with all our means to remove the yoke of opression from all citizens of the Quadrant. We may be few in number now, but we call on all non-zealot races to rise up and destroy the threat to the galaxy that is the Cyber and Citizen evil empires.
We also have in our possesion a Lust class battleship - and we are ready to destroy a sun if thats what it takes.

Rise slaves, break the tyranny of the Religious ones - do not fall for the control and oppression that a galactic council will.. BZZZZZ Click.

"We apologise for this interuption to Inter-galactic big brother, stand by as we return to regular programming".

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would like to lodge to all who read here a formal request to refrain from colonizing planets in systems formerly controlled by Electrum, that are now in Wendigo control; as members of the alliance in which the wendigo are part of undoubtly know, although we have inherited vast planets and fleets with unimaginable power and riches, our planets are in chaos and in continous rioting, which has crippled our economy; we expect that we will need to colonize more planets within our systems once our current social problems subside, but we will not be able to do so, should some of our more aggresive allies decide to claim uninhabited planets in aforementioned systems, which to our estimation, will cause only unnecessary aggravation on both parties and, I am afraid to say, forced removal of, from this moment on we shall refer as, squatter colonies.

Although us Wendigo had not a big part in the removal of Electrum and the Deis, we believe we should rightfully receive what is now rightfully ours.

We have already recieved communication from the Cyber Collective demanding that we begin in earnest demilitarization and hand over one of our fleets, comprised of 60 to 70 warships for compensation. We have already responded that we will not stand for such attempts at subjugation from our own allies, and we say here that we will not stand for any further attempts from any other empire.

Although that we have just mentioned will now be the official policy of the Wendigo, we understand that many of our allies have had planets taken from them, ships and fleets destroyed by Electrum, and had put into effect immeasurable efforts to bring him down, and that they want to be recompensated for it. As of this moment, those nations that demand recompensation shall have their voices heard, and shall have what they demand, as long as they demand reasonably.

And pertaining to this council matter, the Wendigo, following our policy of neutrality and/or humanitarian participation, hereby declare that we will have no part with the Galactic Council, and declare that decisions of the Galactic Council shall have no effect in Wendigo space. However, we recognize the council's rights to the system of Woostroid Woqua, and shall follow the will of the council, according to our own discretion.

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

OoC: I'll be moving at the end of the month, so if you want your recompensation, ask now. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perhaps you would consider the sale of a portion of these fleets to Thermolia? While Thermolia has paid a terrible price in absorbing the main D-O attack, we are still quite solvent.

Thermolia is also in the market for a warp opener and a warp closer. Ours we for the most part lost in the effort to restrict the free movement of the D-O assault fleets.

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All,

The RCC government has returned from it's vacation, and would like to mention the follow to the Galactic COuncil

1)In our absence, one of our captains colonized a planet in the Woostoid system. We have just ordered that colony ceded to the THermolians as part of our effort to rejuvenate their economy.

2) In that same vein, we will cede to the Thermolians at least one warp-opening ship in the next month.

3) We would urge that the status of demilitarization and relations with non-COuncil members be taken up publicly, before relations further deteriorate.

4) Further to that, we beleive all Council deliberations should be held publicly, in this forum. While we fully expect private discussions amongst concerned parties, the deliberations of a council body should be public(OOC: and I'd be very dissappointed if there *wasn't* any plotting going on behind the scenes!)

RCC

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I wonder what is plotting here...
Just been aware of the existence of this "council", and I see that Wendigo are quite talkative. I wonder why they haven't replied to my private Messages during the Last months, then.

First, let me tell you that I disagree with Wendigo demand for free access to systems once controled by infamous Electrum integrists.

They have never help us to fight them, and moreover they have always provided resources to our ennemies. So they should be glad to have received Electrum ships and planets, and should keep quiet at the moment.

I'll refer to members of the White Coalition for Peace and Wealth, to see if this place is a good place to discuss the galaxy issues.

For Peace and Wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick
Citizen Federation

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We of the Pride are not demanding that sole access to those be given to us, the wendigo; (I assume that's what you meant by free access) we are demanding that we be given ownership of them. Should you want the right to colonize those systems we have asked for, you shall recieve that right; we are only asking to the intergalactic community to recognize our right to give you that right by ways of barter and diplomacy.

It is true that we have not aided your nation and other nations militarily during your struggles against the Electrum Empire; and if I understood you correctly, yes, we did maintain diplomatic links and trade with Electrum, and in doing so, possibly the deis. But I ask you, my dear marshal, what would you have done in my position? Declare open war against Electrum, and sacrifice the entire pride to 100-strong dreadnought fleets of his? Do you really think we had a chance with our defunct police force of light cruisers against his armada? We nations that lack in force have in large quantities of wisdom; wisdom that has saved us from being a martyr to your so-called heroic struggle against Electrum and others. And you also say that we had supplied Electrum with our resources? I believe that you are mistaken, for nations that control 20 planets cannot logically feed the war machine of an empire that controls 100.

As for your Last statement regarding our outspokenness, marshal, with all due respect, you will hear our voice everywhere, and anywhere, and at anytime and at all times, until we are truly "glad".

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OoC: Alarikf, yes, politics are fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I'd love to continue territorial disputes with just about everyone in the game, especially WarDad and Trooper http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif , but unfortunatey, I'll be without internet access until July 12th, due to my moving of dwellings. I'll try to issue orders and queue up on things so that the game could run on schedule during my absence.

OoC: Trooper, what do you mean by PMs? I don't remember getting any PMs of yours?

[ June 29, 2004, 21:17: Message edited by: TerranC ]

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We of the Flesh Eaters hive are small, yet we dealt the first and earliest blow in the Electrum war, sacrificing dozens of ships but glassing all planets in one of the Electrum home systems.

True, we accepted a non-agression pact from the Electrum after, but our fleets had already been reduced to a few survivors, and we had no other force in the area.

We have now rebuilt our battlefleets and stand ready to enforce the will of the Alliance. We stand ready to reclaim our worlds in Buber system, but will require several turns to construct adequate troop transports... troops, luckily, we have in plenty.

We shall feast only on the flesh of those that resist... Klingon is rather tough and gamey.

Flesh Eaters Hive

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Klingons will not be a problem for too long. I had to regroup my troop transports this month, and next month I'll be ready for some surgical strikes...

For peace and wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick.

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Cyber Empires will be taking a long 4th of July weekend, 1st to 4th.

I think others will also.
So maybe we should be on Last Player Upload, 1st to 6th of July?


BTW: I can understand Terran C's postion with the Electrum. Well spoken mate!

[ June 30, 2004, 04:15: Message edited by: Wardad ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My right is the right of the first settled.
If you have forgotten to grab Electrum planets for a year now, while we were all busy fighting Dei, too bad for you.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We have proposed to you to join our alliance, Flesh eaters, Arterias, Royal corpo and even Dog warriors have done so, you could have helped too, but in fact you're a coward, aren't you ?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Very unfortunate, indeed. Remember "absent ones are always wrong".

I've send an alliance proposal using political Messages, but maybe you've missed the turn...
Made another one one or two turns ago.

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RCC positions

Colonization issues:

The RCC has no interest in colonizing or claiming any former Electrum worlds.

We do, however, of course, feel it is a good time to re-iterate that the RCC will recolonize all it's planets (RCC & former Dei-O) that were obliterated in the Last war. A planet that was part of the RCC sphere prior to the war is still understood to be an RCC planet unless we have ceded it to Thermolia (which we have done with a few of them) or made otherwise explicit arrangements such as we did in Woostoid Woqua. We have abandoned all claims to the Woostoid system.

Wendigo:

We propose that the disposition of the Council members towards the Wendigo be taken up after their government returns from vacation.

Pace of the Universe:

OOC: There seems to be some people who want the game set to ALPU at least for the long weekend. Is there a quorum on this?

Flesh eater claims:

On the surface, it sounds as if the Flesh Eaters have a strong claim to colonies in the former electrum sphere of influence. We are inclined to support their legal claims, and hence we re-state our preference for orderly claiming of these planets, rather than a first come first served race to them.

Wendigo claims:

We remain disturbed by these, especially given recent events regarding Wendigo agents in the RCC sphere, and in light of Wendigo contributions to the recent war effort against Electrum. We are still deliberating.

RCC

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oops RCC,

You mistakenly colonized a planet at Woostroid Woostra, after you promised not too.

My poor colonizer is now low on fuel and has no where else near to go except Birch VIII.

How about a strait across swap?

Cybersol

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Yeah, I think I mentioned this a few Posts down, but when I missed a turn a colonizer of mine went and colonized in Woostoid. I have since ceded that colony to Thermolia already....Last time I checked, though, weren't there plenty of empty planets there? Also, you should be able to refuel at a number of the colonies there, since you are partnered with at least one of those powers, no?

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edit: deleted double post due to network glitch.

[ July 01, 2004, 16:51: Message edited by: alarikf ]

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Whoa, we just re-read your message, and noticed this little bit that slipped by us:

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ummm...Birch is considered off-limits to all others by our councils, but we will consider ceding you another planet in a different location. However, we do fully beleive that since there are many other planets in Woostoid Woqua that those should be the site of your colonizer vessels' landing. We're a reasonable people, we're pretty certain that something can be worked out so long as no one acts in haste...

thanks,

RCC
Alarik

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It is a Gas colonizer.
There are no free gas planets in WW.
I did clear out Birch VIII and destroy the Dei-O fleet guarding the warp points.

anywho, we can work it out later after the holidays.

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I have to warn Flesh Eaters Hive from some hasty steps. During diplomatic and trade interactions with Klingons we discovered many similarities in our cultures, and I consider Klingon empire as our brothers. We will not allow anybody to freely exterminate this proud and independent nation with their undisputable right for existance and prosperity. Our support will be expressed in the instant military response.

Also I don't understand the willing of the Citizen Federation to aid agressive means of Flesh Eaters against Klingons. I have to point the Federation that this decision is too rash. This plan will not make any honor for Citizen Federation. Desctruction of the whole races was the reason of our struggle against devilish coalition of Electrum and Dei-O.

I'm asking all the Council members to not allow slaughter to start. Make your vote for peace, not war!

Eisk Imperial Guard

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We have no will to exterminate Klingons.
It would too easy and not honorable from us to simply glass their planets and re-colonize their ruins. Klingons citizens are not responsible for the stupid politic followed by their leader. Moreover, we need to increase our own empire population.

That's why we have planned a huge troop and intel operation. As Klingons soldier skills are "non existant" and my troops are well trained, these operation may cause Klingons planets to fall very kickly, without much collateral damages.

I also warn you, Eysk, that any attack against a member of the White Coalition would be extremely dangerous for the agressor.

Regards,

For peace and wealth,

Sky Marechal Brunwick
Citizen Federation

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Lets have the war lol

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What's White Coalition? Is it an underground organisation created for dirty purposes of galactic dictatorship of selected empires (namely, Citizen Federation)? Who else are the members of this Coalition? We'd like to know this.

Now I totally lost the whole idea of Galactic Council - all the members keep silence about the imperialistic intensions of Citizen Federation and its satellites. So what's the purpose of this Council - to divide the spoils of war? An that's all? Then our empire don't want to be a member of Council. It's a fictitious organisation without real power and objectives.

We will wait for 2 mounths for your opinions, and in case of ignoring of this problem we will quit the GC. It will a little loss for Council, but it will be a first loss in a row.

Dixi.

Admiral Shekk of Eysk Imperial Guard.

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Don't feel bad...we too have no idea what the "white coalition" is. WE think it's the coalition that fought the Last war, in which case I guess we're a member of it, but we never heard about it until recently either...


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The White Coalition has been created when Dei's Empire surrendered. All empires have been invited to join it at this period. Seems you have ignored the Messages I've send to you during the Last months.
Its purpose is to create a grouped force of empires capable of maintaining peace in the galaxy, and supporting each other if an enemy stands up against it.

former members are :

- Arteria
- Citizen Federation
- Constructs
- Cyber Collective
- Dog Warriors
- Flesh Eaters
- Royal Corporate
- Vorlons

new member this month :

- Thermolians

As you can see, all together, we have the objectives, and we have the power.

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I was not speaking to you, King Bio. You have been one of the first to sign for the coalition (which was a very good thing) and to give your opinions to members about the Wendigo issue. Are you suffering from amnesia ?

I'm not threatening Eysk, I'm just warning him that his war projects about Flesh Eaters may cause him a LOT of problems. Now that he knows who allied to FE, he'll watch his tongue and keep quiet in the future. Eysk have not moved a finger to help Klingons in their war against Constructs for ages, so I'm quiet surprised of the suddent love affair between them...

In my opinion, deterrence is the best way to keep peace in this galaxy. As we say here "Let him who desires peace prepare for war."

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Quite possibly! heh. Sorry! Got lost in all the message traffic...

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The Flesh Eaters Hive, which reflects only our taste in food and not our inclinations, shall follow the lead of allies in responding to clear threats.

We are a small nation, and have no ambitions of expansion beyond our current sphere.

The Klingons are currently our partners, but remain at war with an ally, and did not join in the Great War. Our target remains only a single world within the Buber system, and if we attack we shall invade with overwhelming troops, and attempt to limit collateral damage as much as possible.

Additionally, we shall not attack until a request has been specifically made from our ally.

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Personally I don't understand what the fuss is about these Klingons. They are ruled by an AI!!! A machine intelligence with no bio oversight. We of the Cyber collective are appalled that such an abomination is allowed to exsist. The liberation of the Klingon race should proceed.

The real unspoken question is:
Are you comfortable with Citizen Federation or Cyber Collective doing it and becoming even stronger? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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Ah...sorry if I didnt reply to the "join the White Coalition" Messages - they must have slipped past me. More likely, I thought that it was a synonym for the Galactic Council, and just ingored them. Our bad.

In any case, our position remains the same: we don't see war as the best answer to the galaxy's immediate problems, and we don;t necessarily support threats against other non-White Coalition members. We feel it is better to work out issues in the Council through debate and resort to war as the Last resort. We're just not sure that there are issues at stake here that are worth a war breaking out again so soon after the Last big one.

RCC

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Hive Queen of Flesh Eaters:

Glad to hear the good sense in your words, not the anger or hate. Your rational explanation makes the solution of the Klingon's problem a lot more simplier. We will contact Klingon ruler to work out the Buber VIII issue.

Sky Marechal Brunwik of Citizen Federation:

I will reply to your accusations in order they follow, Marechal.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Eysk has no interest to military preparations to war with any known race, including Flesh Eaters. We have a big sympathy towards Flesh Eaters because green color is my favourite one. And we still don't recommend them to invade Klingon's planets.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where's no force in the galaxy which able to dictate us what to speak and when we are allowed to speak. We will speak because we can. So your orders, Marechal, are useless. Keep them for more sensible race. We won't bent our head under your pressure.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's so sad to hear this information! Proud and independent Klingons haven't told us about this war. That is probably because of the fact that it was not very successful for them.
Additionaly we have contacted Klingons right before the Electrum conflict. Each ship was too valued to send it to the opposite side of the galaxy. Although our relations with Klingons have no long history behind, our mutial sympathy and understanding grew up very quickly.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Such a message was sent during my 2 mounth vacation on the ice resorts of Lambadini, I guess. But my ministers haven't informed me about any proposals from Citizen Federation. Are you sure that you've proposed this to Eysk, Marechal?

And Last. I know about the artificial nature of Klingon's leader. But where's a nuance - this AI is the digitalized personality of Chanselor Chris. He died too early and had no successor. So his scientists copied him into the computer until the new chansellor will come to power.
Unfortunately, due to unavoidable bugs in a software, Chris has some problems with memory and decision making module, but be a bit more tolerant to him - it's not his fault.

Admiral Shekk
Eysk IG.

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Well. All this affair seems clear now.

Anyway, Klingons'fate is sealed. Klingons citizens will integrate citizen federation, constructs, dogs warriors and flesh eaters empires.

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What about playing the turn ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I'll certainly run it as soon as we have all but TerranC's orders, since he said to go ahead and not wait for him...but I think putting the game on ALPU has allowed a few people to be a bit slower in getting their turns in...so...I've sent out a notice to all players and as soon as there are some more orders in I'll run it....we should get back on the fasttrack in a few days in any case, once people get back from vacations etc...

Alarik

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