A Dream
 

Last night I had this dream... in which I visited the forum here only to find that Aaron Hall had unexpectedly passed away! 8-O But apparently before he died he willed the existing source code to SE5 to the community, and Tesco and David Gervais were starting to head up an effort to build SE5 on their own! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

I'm not a lawyer, but if my understanding is correct, let this be a reminder to everyone to will their intellectual property to SOMEONE, ANYONE, so that it isn't lost in the morass of copyrighted IP which no one actually owns! 8-O

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There has to be someone around to enforce the copyright for it to mean anything... since Malfador Machinations is Aaron Hall... the copyright would be meaningless, were he to die...

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If that were true every song and book would go straight to the public domain when the author died, and that does not happen.

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sounds logical, geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Most songs and books are technically owned by the publishers, so there is someone to enforce the copyright... SE4 is copyright Malfador Machinations, not Shrapnel Games. Since at this point MM is just Aaron Hall, it disappears with his death. There would be noone that could enforce the copyright via law suits. Now, if MM had more employees and was thus able to survive the death of Aaron Hall, it would be able to enforce the copyright.

Of course, there could be a clause that the copyright goes to Shrapnel Games upon Aaron's demise, in which case this is all moot.

[ June 28, 2004, 19:23: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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We could just form a "Church of Aaron" and declare the source code for SEV as a holy scripture of sorts. I'm pretty sure no-one owns rights to the bible http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 28, 2004, 19:22: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

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Wouldnt it be considered an asset of his estate and be inherited by whoever got everything else?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">From what I remember of my law class in high school, that is what would happen. The copyright (in the US at least) will remain the property of the estate of the deceased for fifty (50) years after the date of death.

I believe Fyron's point is that there wouldn't be anyone inheriting the estate to enforce the copyright. But I'm pretty sure Aaron's married, so his wife would have ownership of all copyrights (spouses automatically inherit all their deceased partner's assets in the absence of a will).

I wonder what Aaron would think about a bunch of his fans contemplating his death publicly? Sort of morbid... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I did want to point this out but forgot too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif We're just making sure his legend lives on... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ June 28, 2004, 19:52: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

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Incredible morbid.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Last I heard, Puke was building a Temple of Aaron.

Aren't there some nice tax breaks associated with this sort of thing?

- Suicide "Its not *that* kind of cult" Junkie

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Kinda strange, I was thinking about this the other day and I've come to the conclusion that if Aaron dies, I'll give in and buy SEIV gold.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Last I heard, Puke was building a Temple of Aaron.

Aren't there some nice tax breaks associated with this sort of thing?

- Suicide "Its not *that* kind of cult" Junkie </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Indeed, i'm sure there is. Of course we will need to come up with some Fancy iconography, Claim ridiculous events in history was down to us and then make sure we make Moo3 the equivalent of satan. Maintain the friendly and caring community front and draw more members in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

The only problems i can see so far is explaining our philosophies that we are all Puke http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Maybe make Fyron the supreme prophet because his post count says so and then summon all the Major Members to make a Holy Council of sorts. Whoever said that a UBB board is not the basis for an organised religion is about to get a shock http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

"I love it when a plan comes together!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Someone once did a "history of the church of MOO3" on the Atari forums... if only I could find that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Oooh.
Shrapnel should sell a T-shirt with a Talisman printed on it, and a motto with a URL on the back.

BTW, www.templeofaaron.com seems to be available.

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I'd like for my Viao laptop and 64 meg USB storage device be left to the se4 community in the event of my death. On those two devices you'll find includes a small pile of unpublished writings and graphics, (including the ending for O&C) which should be made available to anyone who wants them, and then the actual hardware could used or auctioned to support the PBW server.

Of course it's all very well me saying this, but (a) legally it probably isn't worth a damn (b) none of my family would know to contact you guys in the event of my death (really should do something about that) and (c) there's the small matter of removing non-se related personal data for my wife, paying for shipping costs out of my 'estate' and so on.

Oh, if all this does ever come to pass, the laptop should be shipped first to Rollo who will be able to guess my password inside of 10 minutes=-)

Still, let it be known here that these are my wishes, whatever the obstacles. If posting this on a public forum does lend it any legality and saves me making a will (I don't really need one otherwise, next of kin is fine for everything else I own), then so much the better.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I see Fyron as the Malfadoran Version of Loki, rather then a prophet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I see Fyron as the Malfadoran Version of Loki, rather then a prophet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Lol...I should have seen it myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Of course Geoschmo, we might need to cutesy up your image. Large all seeing eyes have a bad reputation these days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 29, 2004, 11:33: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]