A Borg Collective style completed
 

I expanded the Borg set Warp-Nine made for the demo into a full-blown style for the final game. It ain't the prettiest thing ever but it does get the job done, it gets the Borg into your game.
http://www.geocities.com/jonas8472/

Probably the best features is a complete Borg_AI_Speech.txt that anyone else can feel free to use and modify for any robot/AI type race. The other text files are Warp-Nine's works in progress.

If anyone else is working on Star Trek stuff or even the Borg, please let me know! I don't want to be duplicating efforts here!

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Super, I have d/l'd your Brog and some of the SW ones from a link you had (only one I found to work for kuat shipyards).

one minor error: you left out the personality setting in Borg_AI_settings.txt. I added the line on my Version, set it to 1. Let me know and I'll re-set to what you prefer.

Looks good so far. I plan to have a Borg, UFP, Klingon game tonight. I'll let ya know here how it went.



[This message has been edited by pathfinder (edited 16 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Excellent work jonas. I like this race. Just one small error I got in the Borg AI Anger file:
These lines were missing and I got an error message:
Per No Treaty Ship := 1
Per Ally Ship := 0
Per Enemy Ship := 1
Minimum Anger := 20
After I just copied the lines from another race it worked fine, but may be you would like other values.
Thank you very much for your work.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Thanks for the great feedback guys, I fixed the text files as you suggested.

Quick question for Pathfinder, you mentioned a Klingon race, I haven't seen anything like that? Where can I get a copy?

Thanks!

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Some more feedback after a game with your Borg race. I played with the AI fully on and watched the progress of the game. They really are aggressive and colonize very fast every planet and one turn after their first contact with another race they demanded their surrender. Excellent!
There seems to be a little problem however with the unit design: The minister created ship designs but no unit designs. Do you have any idea what might be the reason? I played with high tech for new players, so all the technology is available. And the colony ships are equipped with neutron bombs. What is the purpose of this weapon on a colony ship??
I like your ship graphics very much and the portrait of the Borg Queen is just superb.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Much as I'd like to take credit for the AI files, the only one I did was the Speech one. The others were done by Warp-Nine, as I mentioned in the read me. I'll definitely pass on your feedback to him though, or you contact him directly through his website, http://warp_nine.tripod.com/

Unfortunately he doesn't have the full Version of the game yet, at least the Last time I heard from him, so he's making these files based off the demo! That may be part of what's going on.

I haven't really dug into the AI text files yet myself.

(Okay, I just looked at my zip file again and realized I'm an idiot and didn't credit him. That's been fixed, I've also added a new, darker Borg Queen portrait Warp sent me -- that's his too, BTW, from the original demo set -- AND I fixed the two bugs in the AI text files you guys mentioned earlier. So the new download has all that fixed.

Geez, I better not be in charge of a full-blown mod file, no doubt I will completely mess it up.)

[This message has been edited by jonas (edited 16 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

jonas, Atrocities has the Klingon set at the following website:
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/zine/cnchome/Shipsets.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire.com/zine/cnchome/Shipsets.html[/url]</A>

He is the webmaster there http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

BTW I started a game with the Klingons, Borg and Atrocities UFP set...the Borg were merciless, and that speech file...PERFECT!

the txt file errors are minor compared to the overall quality, IMHO.

Just let me (and the others know what values you put in and I at least will put them in as you would have them).

I have haven't run into the Klingons, yet. hehe, I hope I survive the Borg long enough to do just that!

[This message has been edited by pathfinder (edited 16 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Thanks pathfinder, I downloaded his Klingons and will try them out tonight. I also found some incomplete Romulans and Cardassians in the mod forum and will see what I can do about finishing them off.

Earlier today I fixed about six or seven of the lines in the Borg file that were wrong, so it's even better now. I'm also working on one for the Federation, which will have a whole different sound -- lots of bureaucratese and so on.

For the Klingons, I'd suggest using the Xenophobe_AI_Speech file, at least until someone makes one that uses some actual Klingon wording.

Oh, and as for what missing values to put in, I really don't know. I just put in what you guys said as default.

[This message has been edited by jonas (edited 17 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Wow, my races are actually being used! I wish my full Version would get here so I could play too!

-Borg unit designs: There were entries missing in the design file. The fixes are on my site.

-Neutron bombs on a colonist: I can't imagine what a Borg colonist would look like since they take everything from other races. I was hoping they'd use them in the event of coming to a planet that's already been colonized. Any other ideas? I'm still trying to get more boarding ships and troops used in combat. So far the Vulcans have assimilated more ships with allegiance converters (which I took away from them) than the Borg have.

-AI_anger file/personality settings: Those entries I haven't even seen in the Demo files. If someone would send me a set of full Version default ai files, I could get them tuned up for all 8 races. I figured some entries were missing since I tried setting all anger values to zero once and the Borg got murderous and declared war within one turn of first contact for no apparent reason.

-Klingon race: DONT cross these guys! massive, massive fleets with VERY heavy firepower! I haven't witnessed them confront the Borg yet, but I expect some heavy casualties for both sides. There are a handful of Klingon sayings in their speech file. Let's ask nice and see what Jonas can do with it! ;D

Thanks for the feedback and please send some more.

warp_nine.tripod.com

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Great news. I can't wait to get sometime to check the BORG out. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks W9 and Jonas. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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"We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats! They invade our space and we fall back -- they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back! Not again! The line must be drawn here -- this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" -- Patric Stewart as Captain Picard


[This message has been edited by Atrocities (edited 17 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Hey guys, I posted your news at my site. Hope you don't mind, but I thought it would be great to get as many people aware of it as possible. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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"We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats! They invade our space and we fall back -- they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back! Not again! The line must be drawn here -- this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" -- Patric Stewart as Captain Picard
UCP/TCO Ship Yards

[This message has been edited by Atrocities (edited 17 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Updates to all AI files for 8 races (Rom, Fer, Borg, 8472, Fed, Kli, Vulc, Card) posted on my site. I find the politics and anger to be greatly improved in gameplay, but here are a few notes:

-the Borg don't advance (borderwise) as quickly as the others. Their politics prevent them from forming treaties with anyone they consider a threat, and they have to fight their way out. 8472 has the same disadvantage, yet they expand more rapidly for some reason. When I find the settings responsible I'll transfer them to the Borg!

-the Klingons are devastating to start out, but they fall behind and get whipped due to obsolete ships compared to other empires. I need to organize their research more efficiently so they remain competitive and still have lots of firepower.

-I'm still stuck with the Demo and have been getting feedback that some settings are missing. I'll add the changes but there may be more that the demo doesn't cover. If you get an error reading a file, let me know.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

That sounds great. But unfurtunately I can't get to your site: warp_nine.tripod.com is invalid at least with IE5.
Could you post your files in the mod section of this forum??

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

I have no problems with going to the site and I also use IE 5.

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PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE &lt;Worf facing another critical fight&gt;

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Q:
That sounds great. But unfurtunately I can't get to your site: warp_nine.tripod.com is invalid at least with IE5.
Could you post your files in the mod section of this forum??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you'll tell me what happened when you tried to go to his site and had trouble, we'll try to help you diagnose your problem. I have IE 5.5 also and didn't have any trouble pulling it up. Maybe a network link between you and him was down temporarily or some other glitch... Try it again, and let us know.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Same problem - I second God Emporer's second.

[This message has been edited by Tampa_Gamer (edited 30 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

That' what I got when tried to access the site with either IE5 or NS4.7:
__________________________________

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://warp_nine.tripos.com/

The following error was encountered:

Invalid URL
Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems:

Missing or incorrect access protocol (should be `http://'' or similar)
Missing hostname
Illegal double-escape in the URL-Path
Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed
________

I guess the problem is with the underscore
in warp_nine name.

[This message has been edited by oleg (edited 30 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oleg:
That' what I got when tried to access the site with either IE5 or NS4.7:
__________________________________

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://warp_nine.tripos.com/

The following error was encountered:

Invalid URL
Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems:

Missing or incorrect access protocol (should be `http://'' or similar)
Missing hostname
Illegal double-escape in the URL-Path
Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed
________

I guess the problem is with the underscore
in warp_nine name.

[This message has been edited by oleg (edited 30 January 2001).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Pardon me, just jumping in. The URL is misspelled. Try this one.

http://warp_nine.tripod.com/

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Okay guys and girls. After several trials I got to the site but my correct adress is now http://warpnine.tripod.com.
No blank or any other character between "warp" and "nine".
Hope that helps!

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Oh no!!! It's not the site we all locking for but an other without connection to SE IV.
This is quite confusing. Wouldn't it be possible to post the modification at the mod section in this forum???
Please!!!

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Try this link: http://warp_nine.tripod.com/

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Well, this is interesting: I tried the link, and two windows popped up! One had the page we're looking for (SE4 stuff), and the other had a message "requested URL could not be loaded" (or something like that). Could it be that Tripod has added an annoying ad window that isn't working properly? And that's what everyone is having trouble getting past?

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Thank you Daynarr but again no success. I got the following message with the adress you posted:
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved

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While trying to retrieve the URL: http://warp_nine.tripod.com/

The following error was encountered:

Invalid URL
Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems:

Missing or incorrect access protocol (should be `http://'' or similar)
Missing hostname
Illegal double-escape in the URL-Path
Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed

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Any more halp will be appreciated.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Very strange, I can get in with no problems at all. Are you behind a firewall that might be miss-interpretting the address? I'm not even sure if that question makes sense, but something other than the URL or IE5 is causing you a problem.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Id get the shipsets and all, but I dont want to replace any of my existing empires
Ill have to spend a long session of renaming files...

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Have same problem as Raynor accessing the warp-nine site. I second his suggestion...

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Cripes! Now I hate tripod! I used it for the short url. Any other suggestions?

I'll try uploading to the mod section, but give me a day or two to reorganize, rename, redocument, etc. first.

Does anyone know how to write a dos .bat file that can rename these files quickly in the format we need?

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Send it to me. I can upload it at my site as a mirror for ya. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif



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"We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats! They invade our space and we fall back -- they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back! Not again! The line must be drawn here -- this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" -- Patric Stewart as Captain Picard
UCP/TCO Ship Yards

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

hmmmm, I have IE 5.5 and had no problems using one of the url's you guys put in your post to reach warp nine's web site. go figure.

just wonder what security setup ya'll have, like what is Last MS windows update ya'll did.

[This message has been edited by pathfinder (edited 31 January 2001).]

[This message has been edited by pathfinder (edited 31 January 2001).]

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Well, I have the most recent 5.5 IE with medium security selected (no modification).

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Truly bizarre. I have a full firewall at work and IE5 and got it from the first link posted yesterday. I also have Win95, but have no idea if that's relevant.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

I've uploaded the 8 races to the Mod section. Good luck!

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Thank you really very much warp nine! I am very impressed with the beauty of your pictures and the amount of work you did with the textfiles.
Just one personal question: Why don't you have the full Version of SE IV?
I gave it up to reach your own website and I still don't know the reason for the problem. I have Windows 98, IE 5.5, moderate security level, no firewall but I am using a proxy-server (please don't ask any more details, I am not a computer specialist). I can get to other tripod sites without difficulties as e.g. warpnine.tripod.com. May be oleg was right:
"I guess the problem is with the underscore
in warp_nine name."
So you might change your name to warpten??
But anyway thank you again for your work and uploading it on this forum.

Re: A Borg Collective style completed
 

Thanks Warp! I'll definitely check out these new AI files and start a new game (it seems like I am constantly starting new games).

Incidentally everyone, I updated the House of Style today with race styles for the Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians today, as well as templates for the Tholians, Ferengi, and Gorn.

I also added a Federation_Speech_AI.txt file to my Federation zip that is about 50% done...when I finish it completely I'll repost and also drop it in the modders forum.


Dig in: http://www.geocities.com/jonas8472/