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Emperor Zodd January 24th, 2001 08:13 AM

What\'s your favourite race?
 
What race do you guys use to play as,a custom race or one from the game?

I use a custom race similar to the Jaenar.(Zoidian)
After the next patch I was planning on developing an AI for them and upload it.

I removed the EEE and the Cryslonite races.
They aren't humanoid enough for me. Plus I hate their ships.



[This message has been edited by Emperor Zodd (edited 24 January 2001).]

henk brouwer January 24th, 2001 09:57 AM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
That's strange..

I prefer the non humanoid races, especially the cryslonite. I like to think evolution to be creative enough to design other intelligent races besides the humanoid creatures. Humanoid races are used far too much already in my opinion, I really prefer the more orriginal weird races.

Mephisto January 24th, 2001 03:55 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
What should I add, Tampa_Gamer said it all. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Daynarr January 24th, 2001 03:59 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
Nice answer Tampa. You covered it all. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Tampa_Gamer January 24th, 2001 04:09 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
Aw shucks. .I'm blushing

Elwood Bluze January 24th, 2001 05:26 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
Thanks Tampa, I'm going to install them and let rip!

Nyx January 24th, 2001 08:38 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>What race do you guys use to play as,a custom race or one from the game?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I use many different ones. My favorite ship sets are the Pyrochette, United Floran, Gron, and Voidshark's purple ships which will soon (hopefully) be a part of the Darlok mod. I have a couple of races that I designed for myself that I play regularly, but I'm a bit more than 50% likely to use a new race creation on any given game.

My favorite race to play is a republic with elitist nobles who love bringing slaves back to a world near their home. I try very hard to get at least a few slaves of each other race in the game and I drop them all on some Ice world with no atmosphere in my home system. This world get's renamed Menagerie. Every now and again a large population transport takes a tiny number of people from Homeworld to Menagerie as the nobles go on vacation and enjoy poking around their slaves. They also keep a mothballed fleet of captured enemy ship designs to look through and take their kids to see so that they grow up knowing how vastly superior they are to any other life form. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif After they get "enough" slaves they tend to commit genocide with plage weapons. They also like to build suicide bombers (ramming ships) and things like that on slave worlds (crewed by slaves of course). I usually use the Pyrochette shipset for them because the race portrait looks like an Illithid from AD&D and that's about how mind flayer's work. This race uses both the psychic and temporal tech trees and are artisans.

I've been using a variation of these guys since SE3, but I'm still working on a name for them and I tweak the starting settings often enough that I don't even have an .emp file for myself. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif

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Emperor Zodd January 24th, 2001 09:20 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
I wonder what Sigmund Freud would have to say about that Nyx?

Tampa_Gamer January 24th, 2001 09:28 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
Nyx - I like and use the Pyrochette ship set as well. Did you ever fix some of the "fuzzies" on ships. I fixed a few of them, but was hoping the author would post an update.

Elwood Bluze January 25th, 2001 02:09 AM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
I particularly like the ship set for the United Flora! What I'd like to know is more info on the Sergetti and Mephisto mods before I try them out. Do they mod the AI? Will they attack more and with better strategy?

Tampa_Gamer January 25th, 2001 02:58 AM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
Elwood, I will let Daynarr and Mephisto speak to specifics about their mods - but (generally) all three races contained in Mod Pack 1.00 have had all of their AI files tweaked, including, but not limited to the following:

(1) Selection of planets
(2) Designs of ships
(3) Research queues
(4) Construction queues
(5) Anger and political reactions
(6) Speech files changed
(7) and a myriad of other changes designed to make them more aggresive and capitalize on their specific research, construction and design strategy.

In addition to the above, Mephisto modified the "design" and "settings" files to all the other original races to delete some bugs and make them more efficient.


However, overall "strategy" and overall increased attacks cannot be directly modified. You influence these two factors by telling the AI what to colonize (AI_Planet_Types), what to build on those colonies (AI_Construct_Facilities), how to design ships/units (AI_DesignCreate), what and how many vehicles to construct (AI_Construct_Vehicles), what/when to research certain techs (AI_Research) and how to react to other players (AI_Politics and AI_Anger). It is the combination of all these (as well as numerous in-game, hard-coded modules that we are still trying to figure out) that will dictate overall strategy. Based on the combined efforts of all the modders on this board, everyone has made suggestions to Aaron that would make these files even more powerful (some easy/some hard changes), but we will see what the next patch does. I don't know if this answers your question (typical long attorney answer http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif. . .

[This message has been edited by Tampa_Gamer (edited 24 January 2001).]

Commander G January 25th, 2001 07:45 PM

Re: What\'s your favourite race?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by henk brouwer:
That's strange..
I like to think evolution to be creative enough to design other intelligent races ...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Design is a purposeful process, Evolution is a random process. Tell me, who out there random creates a race. Tries for a while, then randomly modifies it and tries it some more. Seems like a poor way to 'design' a race.

I always thought 4X games were fought out between Greek style gods who design and developed their little minions to fight the other gods. (Doesn't my metaphor really fit the game better?)



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