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Nerfix September 23rd, 2003 03:41 PM

New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Dominions II will propably have a load of new spells, but what they do?
Please tell us about some of the new spells!
What does Shadow Bolt and Assimilation do?

Psitticine September 24th, 2003 02:38 AM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
I just glanced through the list of new spells and I don't see anything called Assimilation. Do you maybe mean Imprint Souls, by any chance? That's a new high-level Astral spell that raises an army of mind-controlled converts within an enemy province.

johan osterman September 24th, 2003 02:52 AM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Psitticine:
I just glanced through the list of new spells and I don't see anything called Assimilation. Do you maybe mean Imprint Souls, by any chance? That's a new high-level Astral spell that raises an army of mind-controlled converts within an enemy province.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Imprint soul is the new name for assimilation, assimilation sounded so trekkish.

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 06:43 AM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Hmmmm OK, what does Shadow Bolt do?
Any nifty bloodsummons?

Johan K September 24th, 2003 11:03 AM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Ahh, the blood summons. They must be one of my new Favorites. Most of the high level demons and devils are unique commanders now that all have their own individual strengths. So if all 7 ice devils have been summoned there will be no one available until one of them is killed.

The demon lords are especially fun as they are most varied and have great special powers that can be both good and bad for your empire. It can't be all good to summon demon lords after all.

One of the Demon Lords is Belphegor the Lord of Hell. He spreads gold around him and fathers sell their children and their souls to the demon. They are then used as soldiers and blood slaves in Belphegor's growing army. This practice is quite bad for your pretender's dominion however.

[ September 24, 2003, 10:11: Message edited by: Johan K ]

Mortifer September 24th, 2003 02:58 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Ah this sounds cool! Belphegor will kick some ***! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 03:07 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
What are "Heartcompanions" and "Demon Jesters"?
I saw their names mentioned on dom2progress page...
I think Heartcompanions summoned creatures because their cost was altered from 10 to 5(i think it was so...)...
Demon Jesters are at least something for Diabolic Faith theme...

Also, is Pazuzu a Demon Lord now?
And what's the "Belphegor's growing army"? Do you get...*grasp* units for free too? Can you control the army?

Dude, i'm so playing Mictlan with Diabolic Faith(if possible) and with a Moloch pretender when i get this game! I have alredy some intresting backstory for this nation/theme/pretender combo... I could post it...

Psitticine September 24th, 2003 05:08 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
I don't think there's any limit on Global spells. If so, I haven't hit it.

The Diabolical Faith dominion theme is, I believe, a Marignon theme. It postulates that the Inquisition failed to contain the heretical Ermor necromancers, and so made a pact with forces powerful enough to counter them: demons. They turned back the Death mages with the "aid" of their new partners/masters, but their faith was tainted. Demon worship is a potent force in a Diabolical Faith Marignon.

I'd have to double-check, but I believe the Demon Jesters are summoned via a Blood magic spell that will be available to anybody who does the research (and has the Juju).

Heart Companions are the sacred guardians of the Arcosephalean Priestesses. They are rough, tough, and expensive. Pretty cool though.

Don't know about Panzuzu. I think the "growing army" is what Johan just mentioned: auto-recruiting for Belphegor.

Shadow Bolt is a ranged spell that bypasses armor and has an area-effect paralysis effect on top of the direct damage it deals to a single target. I believe it is Death magic.

Oh, and BTW, good call on the Assimilation --> Imprint Souls, IMHO. MUCH cooler name. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Kristoffer O September 24th, 2003 05:36 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
"But for corruption thou hast made Belial, an angel of hostility. All his dominion is in darkness, and his purpose is to bring about wickedness and guilt."

- Qumran scrolls.

My favourite among the Demon Lords

Still five Globals max.

[ September 24, 2003, 16:37: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 07:11 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Hmmmm...Marignon specific?
Yes, yes, supayes, SUPAWUNDERBAYES!
Evil Marignon!
Oh well, i'll have to find another "evil" theme for Mictlan...

Heart Companions: Hmmmm ok...

Shadow Bolt: Nifty.

Hummm... What are the Demon Lords? How many? How powerfull?
(where is the devil smiley when we need it!)

Kristoffer O September 24th, 2003 07:21 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Why do you have to find an evil theme for Mictlan? Mictlan are as have been said before pseudo-aztec. To my knowledge there is no cult in the history of the world as bloody as the aztec state cult. Most people would consider daily sacrifices and sacrificial ceremonies were thousands of people were brutally murdered by having their hearts cut from thier chests evil. If you feel the need to invent an evil theme for this nation you scare me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 08:55 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Feel free to be scared, but yes, i intend to find an evil theme for Mictlan. Mind you, Aztecs treated the willing sacrifices very well, infact one of my history books said that they treated the young men they sacrificed "like gods". As for the prisoners-of-war, many cultures killed as many slaves with diseases and starvation. Getting your heart cut is IMO mercifull compared to years of suffering as a slave before you die either because of disease or because of starvation.
That is what i know, you are a teacher, i am a school student, if you konw better, then please correct me.

And the sacrifices weren't daily if i remember corectly. Also, if you want a long, long post i can actualy explain why i want an evil theme for Mictlan...

Also, what are "divine titles"? You know you can't escape "Eyes of the Lurker"...
2003-09-24
* New Windows sound setting, dsound or waveout sound driver.
* Easier to get your full allowance of divine titles.
* More divine titles and fixes to some existing ones.
* See divine title on unit info screen.

2003-09-23
* Maps are now stored in a seperate folder.
* AI gets divine titles too.

[ September 24, 2003, 20:04: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 08:55 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Am i scary and evil enough to earn my own Demon Lord?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
I could help you guys desing it..errr...myself...
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ September 24, 2003, 20:26: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

johan osterman September 24th, 2003 09:29 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
Am i scary and evil enough to earn my own Demon Lord?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
I could help you guys desing it..errr...myself...
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We might consider naming a Hoburg champion after you, any design input is welcome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 09:35 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by johan osterman:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nerfix:
Am i scary and evil enough to earn my own Demon Lord?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
I could help you guys desing it..errr...myself...
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We might consider naming a Hoburg champion after you, any design input is welcome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anything specific you want to know?
I'm dead serious here. I wan't to play this game and show my friends "Nerfix the Hoburg Champion" and say, "Whee! Watch him go!".

johan osterman September 24th, 2003 09:40 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
QUOTE]Anything specific you want to know?
I'm dead serious here. I wan't to play this game and show my friends "Nerfix the Hoburg Champion" and say, "Whee! Watch him go!"[/quote]

I wasnt, you won't get a mention. There are no characters in the game named after friends, relatives or associates. I think it is better to keep it that way.

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 09:47 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
You consider me a friend now?
Wow... You aren't angry because i spoil all your big suprises by lurking dom2progress?
Erm... Nevermind...
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Pocus September 24th, 2003 09:59 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Perhaps a leech then? With an astonishing glueing power. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Nerfix September 24th, 2003 10:08 PM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pocus:
Perhaps a leech then? With an astonishing glueing power. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now that sounds just so disturbing it's about right!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Pocus September 25th, 2003 01:15 AM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
I wont they thats the features are fun or cool, thats too horrible to envision http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ... would Belphegor accept the souls of chickens and pigs instead? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

some related questions :
can they be stolen from another player?

is the limit to 5 global spells still there?

Psitticine September 25th, 2003 02:09 AM

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You mean the Horror Harmonica isn't based on a real instrument? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Nerfix September 28th, 2003 09:16 AM

Re: New spells? Plz give us some info!
 
I repeat my question:
How many (diffrent) Demon Lords?

2003-02-01
* Unburied soldiers.
* Soulless warriors.
* Reanimation of soulless remade.
* More units nonzombieable.
* Demon Lords: Belial, Belphegor, Pazuzu.
* Warlock Apprentice.
* New Version 1.74.
* Construction nexus works for forging as well.
* Strategic move into faraway enemy provinces not possible.

A-HA! So Pazuzu is a Demon Lord!

[ September 28, 2003, 08:31: Message edited by: Nerfix ]


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