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Mortifer October 16th, 2003 02:28 PM

No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
How come that I cannot find any preview about Doms II.? I checked out like 15 major gaming sites, but Ive found no preview about the game!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Nerfix October 16th, 2003 02:45 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Dude, the demo isn't out yet.

When the demo is out, why don't you hint them about Dom II?

Or if you are scared, i could do so.
(just tell me what are those major gaming sites)

I could even write a preview.

In fact, i will write a preview.

Mortifer October 16th, 2003 03:36 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
Dude, the demo isn't out yet.

When the demo is out, why don't you hint them about Dom II?

Or if you are scared, i could do so.
(just tell me what are those major gaming sites)

I could even write a preview.

In fact, i will write a preview.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Eh? It seems that you have no idea how is this working. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
The game devs/publishers are sending out betas to Online mags to write a preview about it.
[Hint: marketing.]
It has nothing to do with the demo.
Why would you write anything? I simply do not understand your reply at all.

[ October 16, 2003, 14:36: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

Aristoteles October 16th, 2003 03:42 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
LMAO! Once again Nerfix has proved, that his IQ is between 60 and 80! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

-Storm- October 16th, 2003 03:47 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
I agree, that I never seen a preview about Doms 2. in the major Online gaming mags, like ign, gamespot etc.
I've found a little link about Doms 2. on a small site, that is how I've found this game.

I second, that Nerfix's post was a little 'stupid'. Oh well, maybe he had no idea, that what did you meant, Mortifer.

[ October 16, 2003, 14:47: Message edited by: -Storm- ]

Mortifer October 16th, 2003 03:52 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aristoteles:
LMAO! Once again Nerfix has proved, that his IQ is between 60 and 80! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heh..take it easy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

DominionsFan October 16th, 2003 03:57 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aristoteles:
LMAO! Once again Nerfix has proved, that his IQ is between 60 and 80! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL, this was funny. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

johan osterman October 16th, 2003 04:24 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Please try to be civil.

Endoperez October 16th, 2003 04:33 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
You can find reviews of Dominions II, but you have to search for them. Google finds quite a few reviews, although all I have seen are only copies from the Shrapnels' text. Maybe i should try again, for few weeks have passed from my googling.
Besides, if someone got DomII, wouldn't they be playing it, not writing reviews... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Psitticine October 16th, 2003 04:34 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Actually, a lot of sites welcome reader/user/player previews and reviews. They have more weight to many consumers than professional critical input since they are seen as representing more the "man on the street" opinion.

Also, this is not the first time something has had to be said about personal attacks from certain sources. For the second time, then, tone it down and keep it civil.

MStavros October 16th, 2003 04:44 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mortifer:
How come that I cannot find any preview about Doms II.? I checked out like 15 major gaming sites, but Ive found no preview about the game!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, this is weird. Shrapnel is not advertising Dominions 2?
Usually all games have huge number of previews. I tought that Dominions 2. will be advertised a lot.
Avault, Gamespy, Gamespot, Gamers Hell etc..there are many to choose from.
Oh and these sites are never using player written reviews.

[ October 16, 2003, 15:45: Message edited by: MStavros ]

Endoperez October 16th, 2003 04:46 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Here is a link to the Gamespot preview. As I said before, only a copy of the Shrapnels' text. More can be found by searching for "ascension wars", wihtout quotation marks.

Edit: I managed to make that a link instead of a simple address...

[ October 16, 2003, 15:53: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

Wendigo October 16th, 2003 04:50 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aristoteles:
LMAO! Once again Nerfix has proved, that his IQ is between 60 and 80! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Isn't he a kid in his teens?

So, he is like 14 or so years old, and plays a very complex game in a foreign language & mantains a webpage (something which I cannot do at my age, much the less 20 years ago)...the boy must certainly be brighter than me.

MStavros October 16th, 2003 04:58 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Wendigo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Aristoteles:
LMAO! Once again Nerfix has proved, that his IQ is between 60 and 80! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Isn't he a kid in his teens?

So, he is like 14 or so years old, and plays a very complex game in a foreign language & mantains a webpage (something which I cannot do at my age, much the less 20 years ago)...the boy must certainly be brighter than me.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have found Nerfix's comment dumb as well. If he is 14, than we cannot say anything bad, since he is very immature. Playing games, or making a webiste like that is very easy, even my 12 years old little sister made a better website..in flash!

[ October 16, 2003, 15:59: Message edited by: MStavros ]

MStavros October 16th, 2003 04:59 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Here is a link to the Gamespot preview. As I said before, only a copy of the Shrapnels' text. More can be found by searching for "ascension wars", wihtout quotation marks.

Edit: I managed to make that a link instead of a simple address...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You call this a preview?

Endoperez October 16th, 2003 05:06 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
I call it preview, but I do not read much previews. Atleast it is something. Was there a preview like this for Dominions: PPP, in Gamespot? I would say this is an improvement, if nothing else.

Wendigo October 16th, 2003 05:07 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MStavros:
I have found Nerfix's comment dumb as well. If he is 14, than we cannot say anything bad, since he is very immature. Playing games, or making a webiste like that is very easy, even my 12 years old little sister made a better website..in flash![/QB]
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe there's a difference between making 'dumb' comments and uninformed or precipitate ones. The first come from stupidity, the second from young age & get corrected by education & age.

Maybe you would be able to play Dominions in Russian? I know I wouldn't.

A kid that fancies a deep complex game in a foreign language instead of your standard instant gratification FPS doesn't deserve to be judged so harshly.

MStavros October 16th, 2003 05:11 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Endoperez:
I call it preview, but I do not read much previews. Atleast it is something. Was there a preview like this for Dominions: PPP, in Gamespot? I would say this is an improvement, if nothing else.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree.

Quote:

Originally posted by Wendigo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by MStavros:
I have found Nerfix's comment dumb as well. If he is 14, than we cannot say anything bad, since he is very immature. Playing games, or making a webiste like that is very easy, even my 12 years old little sister made a better website..in flash!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe there's a difference between making 'dumb' comments and uninformed or precipitate ones. The first come from stupidity, the second from young age & get corrected by education & age.

Maybe you would be able to play Dominions in Russian? I know I wouldn't.

A kid that fancies a deep complex game in a foreign language instead of your standard instant gratification FPS doesn't deserve to be judged so harshly.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Still his post made no sense.

As for a deep complex game..this is all about english. If you understand it, you can play Dominions without a problem, you wont have to be a prof.
Most kids in Europe understand english very well at the age of 14.

Particle October 16th, 2003 05:14 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Wendigo I don't wanna hurt your feelings, but the comment by Nerfix was dumb. If something is not clear for me, I surely won't make dumb comments. It is just me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

st.patrik October 16th, 2003 05:15 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Wendigo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by MStavros:
I have found Nerfix's comment dumb as well. If he is 14, than we cannot say anything bad, since he is very immature. Playing games, or making a webiste like that is very easy, even my 12 years old little sister made a better website..in flash!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe there's a difference between making 'dumb' comments and uninformed or precipitate ones. The first come from stupidity, the second from young age & get corrected by education & age.

Maybe you would be able to play Dominions in Russian? I know I wouldn't.

A kid that fancies a deep complex game in a foreign language instead of your standard instant gratification FPS doesn't deserve to be judged so harshly.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree, and I am really finding MStavros' comments objectionable.

[ October 16, 2003, 16:20: Message edited by: st.patrik ]

Particle October 16th, 2003 05:17 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by st.patrik:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Wendigo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by MStavros:
I have found Nerfix's comment dumb as well. If he is 14, than we cannot say anything bad, since he is very immature. Playing games, or making a webiste like that is very easy, even my 12 years old little sister made a better website..in flash!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe there's a difference between making 'dumb' comments and uninformed or precipitate ones. The first come from stupidity, the second from young age & get corrected by education & age.

Maybe you would be able to play Dominions in Russian? I know I wouldn't.

A kid that fancies a deep complex game in a foreign language instead of your standard instant gratification FPS doesn't deserve to be judged so harshly.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree, and I am really finding MStavros' comments objectionable.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree with Mstavros about this. Sorry, we are different. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

MStavros October 16th, 2003 05:18 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Ok guys, I say we better stop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This is pointless, and has nothing to do with Dominions.
Someone will find that comment dumb, someone won't. Not a big deal.

[ October 16, 2003, 16:19: Message edited by: MStavros ]

st.patrik October 16th, 2003 05:21 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MStavros:
Ok guys, I say we better stop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This is pointless, and has nothing to do with Dominions.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thankyou

-Storm- October 16th, 2003 05:22 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Haha, what about make a poll about this? Nerfix's comment was dumb or not? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
(my vote: yes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif )

Anyway, who cares? Nerfix is making fun from himself with comments like that, I don't know that why do we have to discuss about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

DominionsFan October 16th, 2003 05:47 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Poor Nerfix. He won't post dumb things from now on!
Grrrr I always laughed a lot about him, it will be your fault, if he will stop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Oh well, we still have someone...Saber the cherry! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Endoperez October 16th, 2003 05:49 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by -Storm-:

Anyway, who cares? Nerfix is making fun from himself with comments like that, I don't know that why do we have to discuss about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Isn't it dumb to make a comment like this in a post in which Nerfix's 'dumbness' is discussed?

Sorry, just had to post that.
Okay, back to the original discussion, how many magazines do (p)review games that are sequels to rather unknown games, published by rather unkown publisher, developed by rather unknown developers? Not many, I think, mainly because there are so many games like these. The main gaming community might lose much enjoyment in these games, but then so many games are made by independent devs/pubs that no major, 'good' games could be reviewed. And most independent games propably are bad, or atleast not innovative or more than mediocre.

[ October 16, 2003, 16:51: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

-Storm- October 16th, 2003 05:55 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Isn't it dumb to make a comment like this in a post in which Nerfix's 'dumbness' is discussed?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Endoperez - From: Finland ....... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

johan osterman October 16th, 2003 05:57 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
This is becoming ridiculous, quit harping on each other.

MStavros October 16th, 2003 06:00 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
______________________________________________

No more Posts about Nerfix's dumbness above that line.
Stick to the topic.

Nerfix October 16th, 2003 06:22 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
I am used to previews made from game demos, not from hype, but apparently this is only in Finland.

I am making preview of Dom II for Dom X, and I will also use it spread info about Dominions.

Sorry if this won't make any sense.

Endoperez October 16th, 2003 06:39 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Nerfix, maybe you should wait until you have atleast tried the demo... Not that I'm against it, but those in Domx propably already know quite a lot about Dom2. I also think that someone's opinion about the game is atleast as important as what they tell it has in it.

Oh, and Endo' is only a nickname I made up when making a new char to Runescape, I hope it doesn't mean anything...
RS is a free mmorpg, and in there you can find everybody who wants to show every other how good they are, by having more powerful character. It lost its interest fast.

[ October 16, 2003, 17:41: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

Nerfix October 16th, 2003 06:41 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Who said i am not waiting for the demo before i make the preview?

So my post didn't make sense...

Edit:
And i believe that some occasional wanderer would like to get some in about Dom II, and those who know about the game migth want to know what other fans think about the game.

I will more likely do both a preview and review.

Why are you telling me about your nickname?

[ October 16, 2003, 17:46: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Saber Cherry October 16th, 2003 06:43 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
I am used to previews made from game demos, not from hype, but apparently this is only in Finland.

I am making preview of Dom II for Dom X, and I will also use it spread info about Dominions.

Sorry if this won't make any sense.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There, there... I still like you, even if everybody else is being mean. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Nerfix October 16th, 2003 06:47 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Nerfix:
I am used to previews made from game demos, not from hype, but apparently this is only in Finland.

I am making preview of Dom II for Dom X, and I will also use it spread info about Dominions.

Sorry if this won't make any sense.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There, there... I still like you, even if everybody else is being mean. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I like you too, even if everybody else is being mean. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Pocus October 16th, 2003 07:45 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
for what its worth, a review of the game is planned in the january issue of a french strategy mag (perhaps i should say 'The' french strategy mag, as others pc mags are generalists and not focused only on strat games).

Hope it will convince some hundreds french strat gamers to buy the game, we need french (fresh?) blood http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Particle October 16th, 2003 07:45 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
I am used to previews made from game demos, not from hype, but apparently this is only in Finland.

I am making preview of Dom II for Dom X, and I will also use it spread info about Dominions.

Sorry if this won't make any sense.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">........ http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Hopefully the big gaming sites will post reviews at least, because they did not posted any previews

Nerfix October 16th, 2003 08:02 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Ummmm, what is so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ?

That i am used to hype and previews being kept separated?

Mortifer October 16th, 2003 08:04 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
OMG! What is this flamewar again?
LOL Nerfix, you are always causing trouble. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Btw I have no idea why you lads are so mad. That post by Nerfix is not that dumb or something, I think that he misunderstood me.

[ October 16, 2003, 19:04: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

Nerfix October 16th, 2003 08:06 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
I simply asked a question.

Richard October 16th, 2003 08:55 PM

Re: No previews of Dominions II. in Online gaming mags?
 
Okay this is the final warning on this, and I am locking this thread. First to address the issue at hand. We received Dominions too late to make into the standard PR cycle. Most previews will ot be done by most magazines unless they can get the game 3-4 months before it goes gold (but some will take a little later). They want a preview to come out long before the game comes out, not at around the same time. These publications have lead times to publish articles. Because of that there probably won't be any preview articles on Dominions II printed.

However we have the largest review list of any publisher of our size, and we use it aggressively. Not only will Dominions be reviewed Online, and in print, but it will probably also make some radio and newspaper (and maybe even TV if we get lucky). Dominions 2 is an exciting product, and we want to push it as far as we can.

To the other issue. If you want to discuss your opinion of another poster, take it to email or PM's. I will NOT tolerate continual personal attacks on anyone on this board. We're all adults here, act like it. That's my final statement on that matter. The next step will be dealing with specific people on an individual basis.

I don't WANT to do this, but I also will nto sit by and watch people attacked just because someone doesn't like their POV. We're a community here, not a junior high school.

[ October 17, 2003, 01:27: Message edited by: Richard ]


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