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Gandalf Parker November 24th, 2003 05:12 PM

Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Anyone have any map ideas that they would like to see someone else do?

We had a map in Dom1 where there were multiple maps linked. In other words the picture could show 3 seperate worlds. In Dom2 a map can apparently be any size (but a limit of 500 provinces). Maybe the middle would be a normal world map.

The upper image could be an air map with a strong circular air-current. The #neighbor commands could be one-way only? (does that work?) If it were long air provinces with small provinces in-between the big ones you could simulate fast air travel (flyers being able to jump the small link-provinces). In fact if you filled the small link provinces with something like monoliths you could pretty much make it impossible for non-flyers to use that path at all.

The lower map could be long tunnels with ways into and out of only at the far ends. They dont need to connect to each other at all. They can even cross each other on the image without connection (going over or under the other tunnel would be the impression).

Connections between the 3 layers of map would only be at points where you use a #neighbor command to connect them.

-- Im such a G.I.V.E.R.
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[ November 28, 2003, 18:36: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Wendigo November 24th, 2003 05:30 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Seeing as you ask: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I would like...
-a medium sized map for 6 or so players (around 100 provinces) for competitive MP.

-Not dominated by water (ie, that having 1-2 water nations in the game would not unbalance it because water surrounds all land masses providing supberb intelligence & raiding capabilities). Dandelion from Dom I is a good example of a map I like in this stead.

-With an 'advanced start' with 6 or so provinces/nation (can this be done without setting the nation types/starting locations in stone?)

You get this done and I send you a Xmas card in exchange. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Kristoffer O November 26th, 2003 06:21 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Currently there are no one way neighbours

Nerfix November 28th, 2003 07:40 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
I would need a map with all the unique demons in a one province, with their real names for test purposes.

[ November 28, 2003, 18:03: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Nagot Gick Fel November 28th, 2003 07:52 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Anyone have any map ideas that they would like to see someone else do?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Scenario: Quest for the Holy Relics.

These relics are what remains from an ancient and forgotten god: the Grail (the Chalice), the True Cross (the Ankh), and the Holy Lance (the Trident From Beyond???). They are kept by ancient and powerful guardians and armies in remote citadels. Whoever will retrieve at least 2 of these relics will be granted prominence in the new pantheon.

Pocus November 28th, 2003 08:20 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
what, only 500 provinces, in old hard coded fashion??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Gandalf Parker November 28th, 2003 08:30 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pocus:
what, only 500 provinces, in old hard coded fashion??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep 500 provinces and 20 neighbors each. With the mandatory terrain commands thats alot of lines. I hope there isnt an upper limit on .map file size since I was up to adding a dozen lines for each province with my scripts.

Also apparently something like only 27 maps can be listed for selection.

Gandalf Parker November 28th, 2003 08:33 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
I would need a map with all the unique demons in a one province, with their real names for test purposes.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm that would need for someone to go thru the AllView game and get the unit id # for each of those demons. They are probably all grouped together near the end of the file. That would be the hard part. After that I could whip you off a .map putting them all in one provice and making you the owner of that province. Take a look at the BattleSim map (mini.map and mini.tga) for how to do that part.

[ November 28, 2003, 18:34: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Nerfix November 28th, 2003 08:45 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Take a look at the BattleSim map (mini.map and mini.tga) for how to do that part.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where can i get them?

BTW do you have somekind of a main page so i could put the link to dom x(if you don't mind)?

Gandalf Parker November 28th, 2003 09:07 PM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Take a look at the BattleSim map (mini.map and mini.tga) for how to do that part.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where can i get them?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry. They are here...
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion/Dominions2/

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BTW do you have somekind of a main page so i could put the link to dom x(if you don't mind)?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mean one I can put a link for Dom X on? Or one you can link to? Doesnt really matter, I dont have it. I have half a dozen domains I should make pages for but I got burned out on html back when it was first invented. I will try to put a README file in that directory at least sometime.

Kristoffer O November 29th, 2003 12:07 AM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Pocus:
what, only 500 provinces, in old hard coded fashion??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep 500 provinces and 20 neighbors each. With the mandatory terrain commands thats alot of lines. I hope there isnt an upper limit on .map file size since I was up to adding a dozen lines for each province with my scripts.

Also apparently something like only 27 maps can be listed for selection.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Max nbr of maps are now 5 times higher. Do you really need more than 500 provinces or 20 neighbours? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Gandalf Parker November 29th, 2003 12:51 AM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
[quote]Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
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Also apparently something like only 27 maps can be listed for selection.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Max nbr of maps are now 5 times higher.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks Kristoffer, I really appreciate that. Ive also found that apparently either -T (text mode) or the --mapfile switch keeps the max number of maps from being a problem. I was able to start a game with the 39th map on the list if I specify it on the command line when I start the game. That will work fine for scripting.

Once a game is started can the map can be deleted from the host maps directory? I still have a vision of tossing random generated maps in and starting games from a web interface. I figure I can have 100 games running at once. I know that sounds like alot to people reading here but games can Last for months so if you wanted to always have a game open for signups then you would need alot of games.

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Do you really need more than 500 provinces or 20 neighbours? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Your asking ME? Of course I do. (no not really I guess). Do you think there is going to be a limit I will run into on the size of a .map file? You KNOW I can hit that limit if there is one.

[ November 28, 2003, 22:52: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Orlanth December 3rd, 2003 05:17 AM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Well I'd like to see some kind soul with more talent & less laziness than myself come up with some maps based on popular alternate realities: Middle Earth of course, maybe the Young Kingdoms, Glorantha, Dying Earth, or anything really (if anyone's even heard of the Last 3?) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Pocus December 3rd, 2003 08:03 AM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Pocus:
what, only 500 provinces, in old hard coded fashion??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Max nbr of maps are now 5 times higher. Do you really need more than 500 provinces or 20 neighbours? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just teasing you. Practically I dont think we will reach 500 provinces.

if you could implement one way neighbor, now that would be cool. I could add timed renforcements with that.

[ December 03, 2003, 06:05: Message edited by: Pocus ]

PDF December 4th, 2003 02:46 AM

Re: Maps you want others to Make (edited subj)
 
Pocus,
When will you make a Dom2 Version of the Melniboné map ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
I would really enjoy some "multi planar" maps as Gandalf spoke of, like Dom1 Hollow world was.

I'd also be interested in Dom2 Version of some other good'ol dom1 maps : Cirlani, RealmWars.

Is there a simple method to convert Dom1 maps to Dom2 ? I suppose the tga has to be redone, and I have absolutely *no* skill or talent for that ..


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