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RyanZA December 27th, 2003 11:11 PM

Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I cant find any games starting up so the most obvious coarse of action... start one up myself! Im new to dominions so other new players very welcome to join. Vets, of coarse, are also welcome. (Best way to learn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

I was thinking around a 6-8 player game, maybe one turn a day or 5/week or so.

If you are interested reply to the topic with

1) Map you would like (Aran would probably be good)
2) Richness
3) MAgic sites
4) Indep province strength (1-9)
5) Whichever nations you want (3 if possible)
6) Research (normal/fast)
7) Victory conditions (%map etc)

If anybody has any other suggestions, feel free to post them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ January 01, 2004, 17:00: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Gandalf Parker December 27th, 2003 11:58 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RyanZA:
I cant find any games starting up so the most obvious coarse of action... start one up myself!
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Very good. Are you going to provide an IP and Port number? Or do it by email? If you want to we can set it up on my server. That way if you fall out early you wont feel obligated to keep the game running for months http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Or if anyone else is in that situation I can probably pick the game up on my server.


Quote:

Im new to dominions so other new players very welcome to join. Vets, of coarse, are also welcome. (Best way to learn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Im kindof in the middle. Old timer who doenst win many games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Quote:

I was thinking around a 6-8 player game, maybe one turn a day or 5/week or so.
1) Map you would like (Aran would probably be good)
2) Richness
3) MAgic sites
4) Indep province strength (1-9)
5) Whichever nations you want (3 if possible)
6) Research (normal/fast)
7) Victory conditions (%map etc)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">map=Orania
rich=default
sites=50
indep=7
research=normal
victory=none

Races in order of preference...
Pangaea, Man, Jotunheim

Karacan December 28th, 2003 12:14 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Yes! Yes! Here! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I am a Dom1 veteran who's always first or second death in multiplayer, even against noobs...


1) Orania
2) normal
3) standard 45%
4) Indep 4 - 6
5) In this order: Man, Rlyeh (if there's no more than one underwater nation on Orania), Ulm
6) normal
7) Victory points, 1/capital

I am fine with both, pbem or server.

alexti December 28th, 2003 12:22 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I'm newbie and haven't played MP in Dom yet, but I'd like to join. My preferences are:
1) any
2) normal
3) normal
4) 4-7
5) Jotunheim, Man, Pangea
6) normal
7) any

Hana December 28th, 2003 01:47 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I'm sort of a newbie, but I'm game for it.

1) Map: Desert Eye
2) Richness: Default
3) MAgic sites: Default
4) Indep province strength: Default
5) Whichever nations you want: Ermor, Ctis, Caelum
6) Research: Normal
7) Victory conditions: None

Saber Cherry December 28th, 2003 05:54 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Yay!

Any settings, I don't care. And I'll go Marignon... failing that, Vanheim, then Pythium.

rabelais December 28th, 2003 07:51 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Um, if there's still room...

1) Map: something new/random
2) Richness: RICH!
3) Magic sites: max, make people want to trod the rainbow path of doom! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
4) Indep province strength: High. Very High.
5) Whichever nations you want: Ulm, Jotunheim, Machaka
6) Research: Normal
7) Victory conditions: None

Thanks,

Rabe

Teraswaerto December 28th, 2003 08:05 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Here!

1)Orania
2) Normal richness.
3) MAgic sites 55%
4) Indep province strength 7
5) Machaka, Arcoscephale, T'ien C'hi
6) Research normal
7) Victory conditions: None, but allied victory allowed.

Wendigo December 28th, 2003 08:15 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
If there's still room:

-Any settings, common events prefereable.
-R'lyeh, Ermor, Jotunheim, Vanheim.

RyanZA December 28th, 2003 08:16 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Very good. Are you going to provide an IP and Port number? Or do it by email? If you want to we can set it up on my server. That way if you fall out early you wont feel obligated to keep the game running for months http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Or if anyone else is in that situation I can probably pick the game up on my server.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I was going to do it by email, but if you can provide a server thats great. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif We have 8 players already so we can get started at any time, too. Everybody has chosen different races so theres no problem there either. I'll go with Pythium. Drop a message as soon as you have the server up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Wendigo December 28th, 2003 08:23 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
As the game creator you have one Last task: review all the input you got & set the definite details so that players can know them before creating their gods.

You will have to decide on some other stuff like the score charts (viewable/not) also.

RyanZA December 28th, 2003 08:37 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Alright.. map seems to be Orania.. but is that not too large? It has 279 provinces meaning over 30 provinces for each player to start? Im new to this so that might be ok though. The settings (given that we play Orania) will be

map = Orania
rich = default
sites = 45%
indep = 7
research = normal
victory = none
scores = viewable

If we'r gonna go with such a big map, we can take Wendigo too for 9 players.

Wendigo December 28th, 2003 08:44 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Ups, did not notice the Orania part. I guess I should then pass as such a huge game is too much of a time comitment for me, thanks anyway and good luck.

Teraswaerto December 28th, 2003 09:17 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
If no more players sign up Orania is too big.

RyanZA December 28th, 2003 12:33 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Teraswaerto:
If no more players sign up Orania is too big.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I was thinking that as well. (You were one of the people who wanted Orania?)

Everyone reply again with what map you want, it looks like itll be a 8-9 player game.
1) Aran
2) Desert Eye
3) Orania (are you sure?)
4) Whichever other map you'd like

(Edit: If you dont reply, we can just take that as you want whichever map is most popular. ie. abstain)

[ December 28, 2003, 10:35: Message edited by: RyanZA ]

Teraswaerto December 28th, 2003 12:57 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Either Aran or Desert Eye are fine with me. I was hoping for more players when I originally voted for Orania.

Common events, I assume?

alexti December 28th, 2003 03:50 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I'd prefer Aran or Desert Eye

Gandalf Parker December 28th, 2003 04:08 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Any map is fine with me. I like big maps but only because small maps make me lose faster http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Wendigo December 28th, 2003 04:40 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Oh, cool then, any of those would be fine for me.

RyanZA December 28th, 2003 05:16 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Alright, lets go with Desert Eye then. Looks the right size and its wrap-around where Aran isn't, so everyones on equal terms without corners behind them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

WraithLord December 28th, 2003 05:39 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I'd like to join if there's still room.
I'd go with whatever settings chosen.
I'd prefer pythium. if not then arco,man.

RyanZA December 28th, 2003 08:12 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by izaqyos:
I'd like to join if there's still room.
I'd go with whatever settings chosen.
I'd prefer pythium. if not then arco,man.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Alright, the map is just right with 10 people, so that makes you the Last. Someone probably wont show up anyway so it shouldnt be a problem. pythium and man already taken, so arco it is.

Just waiting on Gandalf to start the server up and we can get to playing.

Common events, yes.

Gandalf Parker December 28th, 2003 08:33 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RyanZA:
Just waiting on Gandalf to start the server up and we can get to playing.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">(edited) OK up and waiting.....

You didnt mention AI's so I left those out.

For those curious here this is the startup line I used....

nohup dom2 -ST --noclientstart --port 7011 -g RyanzEye --indepstr 7 --magicsites 45 --mapfile eye.map >/dev/null 2>RyanzEye.err &


This is the command Im using to run the game as "no hangup" and "background", "process when all players finish their turns".
The RyanzEye.cmd call afer processing is just for me to play with toward webbing things. For now it will probably just record the turn processing to a file. Maybe I will have it email me or send text to my cell phone telling me I can do another turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

nohup dom2 -ST -q --nonationsel --port 7011 -g RyanzEye
--postexec RyanzEye.cmd >/dev/null 2>RyanzEye.err &


The script runs it on a Debian Linux server in Text Only mode (should be faster and less memory)

Later if we want to we can switch to processing the turns every midnight (my time Pacific Standard Time) whether people have turned in their turns or not. This would be a good idea.

[ December 28, 2003, 20:36: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

RyanZA December 28th, 2003 09:25 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Alright

Basically everyone got who they wanted except for izaqyos.

RyanZA: Pythium
Wendigo: R'lyeh
Teraswaerto: Machaka
rabelais: Ulm
Saber Cherry: Marignon
Hana: Ermor
alexti: Jotunheim
Karacan: Man
Gandalf Parker: Pangaea
izaqyos: Arcoscephale


Stats for game:
map = Desert Eye
rich = default
sites = 45%
indep = 7
research = normal
victory = none
scores = viewable
events = common

Gandalf Parker December 28th, 2003 09:30 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
This will be my first time as server so we might have some bumps.
The IP of the server is 63.199.8.158 and the port is 7011
The game name is RyanzEye

For those who have seen the other Posts about how to make a seperate desk icon for quick in/out of a game, this is the command line that my new RyanzEye icon does when I click it...

"C:\Program Files\dominions2\dom2.exe" -mwaifx --tcpclient --ipadr 63.199.8.158 --port 7011

Karacan December 29th, 2003 02:30 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Oh, I like big maps, huge armies and lots of research before nations clash. But that's just me.

I go with Aran, then.

For the rest, I don't care.

alexti December 29th, 2003 06:06 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I've connected to the server and selected Jotunheim to play, but that was all I could do. Am I not supposed to submit my pretender? And how should I do it? Sorry about asking, it's my first MP game.

Saber Cherry December 29th, 2003 07:39 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Directions:

Design a pretender (offline). BE SURE TO USE A PASSWORD!

Connect to the server and select your nation only.

Disconnect.

Once everyone has done this, the game will start.

Gandalf Parker December 29th, 2003 03:12 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
OK its open and running. The first time you pick up your file it will ask again who you are. After that it will "remember" you each time you go back. There are no AIs in this game.

At the moment its set to process as soon as all turns are turned in so we can basically run "hotseat" for awhile. But since the game wasnt setup with any particular time-zone in mind I would be surprised if it turns out we are playing with the same dayshift hours.

As soon as things slow abit I would really like to switch the game to automatically processing at midnight (PST) since this server Version appears to be rather a memory hog. But thats up to the GameMaster

By the way, since there are so many "new game" threads running... is it OK with everyone if we change the name of this thread to RyanzEye

[ December 29, 2003, 13:13: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

alexti December 29th, 2003 05:07 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
More silly questions: how do I submit the turn? I've connected to the server, got my turn file, played the turn, but do I need to do something to submit it or is it done automatically when I press 'e'? Even sillier question: is there any doc describing sever and PBEM process, description in the manual seems to be a bit too brief.

Gandalf Parker December 29th, 2003 05:42 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by alexti:
More silly questions: how do I submit the turn? I've connected to the server, got my turn file, played the turn, but do I need to do something to submit it or is it done automatically when I press 'e'? Even sillier question: is there any doc describing sever and PBEM process, description in the manual seems to be a bit too brief.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There are some notes on in one of the "pinned" topics (stays near the top of the threads) with newbie in the name. ALso you can use the "search" thing in the upper right of the screen.

(short answer)
Pressing 'e' sends your turn if you are connected to a server (IP and Port number). Thats a TCP/IP game actually, not a PBEM (play by email).

(long answer)
If you were playing a PBEM game then pressing 'e' just creates your turn file. Its up to you to get it to the host server by whatever means was agreed on. In the dominions2 directory there will be a directory with the game name. There will be a new .2h file with your nation name. You can upload that, email it, drag-n-drop it, whatever method the gamemaster decided on.

Such as, in the RyanzEye game if it were PBEM. If you were playing atlantis then there would be a directory in the dominions2 dir named RyanzEye and there would be an atlantis.2h for your turn moves. You would attach that to an email for a PBEM game. After everyone turns in their .2h files then the host would process them all together and send everyone their .trn files with the results.

But since Im leaving RyanzEye running all the time on my server your turn should have been sent in already when you hit 'e' in that game.

(edited)
I just checked and yes I got your turn...
-rw-r--r-- 1 dominion dominion 4217 Dec 29 06:08 pangaea.2h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dominion dominion 3222 Dec 29 07:34 ermor.2h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dominion dominion 2792 Dec 29 07:54 jotun.2h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dominion dominion 4168 Dec 29 07:55 machaka.2h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dominion dominion 3410 Dec 29 08:13 man.2h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dominion dominion 3445 Dec 29 08:27 pythium.2h

[ December 29, 2003, 15:45: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

alexti December 29th, 2003 11:12 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Thanks, Gandalf, it's clear now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Karacan December 30th, 2003 03:24 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Fun problem. I can't log in as Man, though I submitted my pretender yesterday (or was it the day before? Nevermind...) just fine.

Chastises me I am using the wrong password. Which is strange, since I just now used this very god in a Singleplayer game, and the password I use there is the correct one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Something happened to Man? Sorry for the delay in turns currently, but can't log in...

Gandalf Parker December 30th, 2003 03:50 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Hmmm that can be a problem. I can think of some things to try but Im not sure how well they would work.

Sure you didnt have caps-lock on? Or accidentally set it for a password different than you thought you typed? I dont thinkit asks for password when you upload your god. Try starting a solo game with that god (if you havent changed him yet) and see if you can use your password to play on your machine.

TKK 9000 December 30th, 2003 05:21 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Sorry about that guys but I was checking if there is any free place to play the game and it got Me as the player for man. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

I can make myself computer controlled if it would help

Gandalf Parker December 30th, 2003 06:19 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
options are:

1) Man becomes AI with your pretender

2) you give the password to the original player who plays Man although it would be with your settings

3) we all start over

There are others but those are the best I think. Its between these two and the GameMaster

[ December 30, 2003, 16:21: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

TKK 9000 December 30th, 2003 06:46 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
All 3 are OK with me though I would prefer not to give my password but it’s up to Karacan
to decide.

IMHO It’s best to start again.

Sorry about that again. I thought clicking would show me who the pretender is not make me one.

Carnifex December 30th, 2003 08:50 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
If you _do_ elect to start again, do you have
room for one more?

RyanZA December 30th, 2003 09:11 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TKK 9000:
Sorry about that guys but I was checking if there is any free place to play the game and it got Me as the player for man. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

I can make myself computer controlled if it would help

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Awww.. wow. What were you thinking? If you wanted to play so bad you could have just posted a message here.. we hadnt started yet.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

We might as well restart anyway, seeing as we'r still only on turn 1 and Ulm (rabelias) seems to have vanished (or just slow). That might leave Ulm open, so if anybody else wants to play post now. rabelias needs to post to say if hes still in or not, and anyone else who wants to join post with which race you want (besides the ones taken already, excluding Ulm) and the first person to do that will get Ulms spot if hes dropping out..

If any of the other players have any problem with restarting (we'r only on turn 1) post now too.

aldin December 30th, 2003 09:24 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I'd love to play Ulm - what do I need to do?

~Aldin

Karacan December 30th, 2003 10:55 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Heh, if you start over anyway, I am happy... else I'll let TKK continue to play - fine with that, too.

What's strange is that I apparently uploaded my god design first place (oh, and by the way, I checked my god's password before and after http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )... your reselection apparently overwrote mine. I never knew that was possible, I'll be doubly careful in clicking when joining a MP.

Thanks for clearing it up, TKK, if you'd kept silent, I would have thought myself in a heavy pre-hangover for New Year (stranger things happened.)


Karacan, playing as Shaar, the Teacher of Philosophy, Patron of Herbalists, God of the Healing Arts, the Unsleeping God, faithful saviour of Mankind.

rabelais December 30th, 2003 11:09 PM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Hi.

Sorry all, was away (B-day trip ;()

I have signed in and taken my turns.

Unfortunately, I logged in via the wrong install, with a vanity (single-player, no password(!)) pretender so I'm probably not going to be that competitive, unless as seems possible there's a restart.

How does one change pretenders before the start of a server game if one messes up as I did, is there a mechanism at all?

Again sorry for holding things up. Good Luck all!


Rabe

Gandalf Parker December 31st, 2003 12:39 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
OK restarting the game. Anyone who wants in needs to let Ryanza know which 3 nations they would want, in order of desire.

And get your gods made for a crowded game. Set the password before you hit the "ready" option

Karacan December 31st, 2003 01:10 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Okay, I am in, until someone overwrites my god once more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Orlanth December 31st, 2003 01:45 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Are you opening it to new people? If so, I would like Jotunheim, Man, or Marignon.

aldin December 31st, 2003 02:42 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
I already screwed this up! I hadn't created a pretender and accidentally picked Machacka which shows as selected. Can y'all help me fix this please?!?

~Aldin

Gandalf Parker December 31st, 2003 03:56 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by aldin:
I already screwed this up! I hadn't created a pretender and accidentally picked Machacka which shows as selected. Can y'all help me fix this please?!?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK that seems fixed. Notes for others: I deleted the machaka.2h file and when he re-connected it re-sent his god.

aldin December 31st, 2003 04:27 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Thanks Again Gandalf!

~Aldin

Saber Cherry December 31st, 2003 08:09 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
OK, let's get this straight. Is this still correct, or are there new additions?

RyanZA: Pythium
Wendigo: R'lyeh
Teraswaerto: Machaka
rabelais: Ulm
Saber Cherry: Marignon
Hana: Ermor
alexti: Jotunheim
Karacan: Man
Gandalf Parker: Pangaea
izaqyos: Arcoscephale


Stats for game:
map = Desert Eye
rich = default
sites = 45%
indep = 7
research = normal
victory = none
scores = viewable
events = common

RyanZA December 31st, 2003 08:30 AM

Re: Ryan Eye MP Game (thread name changed)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by aldin:
I already screwed this up! I hadn't created a pretender and accidentally picked Machacka which shows as selected. Can y'all help me fix this please?!?

~Aldin

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">erk. Machaka is already being played by Teraswarto.

Orlanth.. Jotunheim, man and marignon are already chosen too. Dom2 really needs some kinda full game password for tcp/ip.

Atm players are still as Saber Cherry listed..


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