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Saxon January 6th, 2004 03:09 PM

Time to play
 
How long does it take people to play a game? I am curious because I have been putting some serious hours in my Last two games and I feel I am slow. (No need for comments from those who think I am mentally slow!) Seriously, my current game at turn 55 probably represents 15 or more hours. Some of the posters here seem to have played most of the races and most of the themes, but I would need years to do all that! I know some folks quit when they are sure they will win, but I do the same.

How much time do you put into the game? Are you balancing this with significant others, jobs or school? Or am I just slower than a sloth with a hangover?

General Tacticus January 6th, 2004 03:30 PM

Re: Time to play
 
Well, I for one have never finished a game, technically. But then I love the World Map (339 provinces), like to play against 17 impossible AIs, and thus am usually doing something else while the AIs are playing : it takes several minutes per turn ! I figure I put in about 3 hours on week days (remember I can do something else at the same time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) and a lot more on week ends...

In my current (Mictlan) AAR, I'd say I play 5 turns/hour, on average (with the time needed to take notes, occasional screenshot, and the occasional backup of the game folder so I can come back for more screens if I ever want to)

Hana January 6th, 2004 04:14 PM

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It really depends on a lot of things. The map, how many players/AIs, the nations and strategies involved, luck, etc. The shortest game I've ever had Lasted around an hour. The longest one (not counting PbEM games) Lasted a couple of weeks. Not sure how many hours it actually went though.

Gandalf Parker January 6th, 2004 06:09 PM

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One thing Im afraid of is that the devs will give in to the solo players abit and pass-up on things like AI improvements in order to gain faster host-processing. PLEASE dont do that.

For one thing, the game is a great PBEM multiplayer game and there are few enough of those. For that type of a game long hosting times are supposed to be not a consideration.

But mainly, if hosting speeds up, Im gonna die! Yes these are long games. And yes this is a very addictive game. Im eager to see the next turn often trying to convince myself that Im "just going to glance at it to see if xxxxx worked the way I planned". If this game processes faster then I will starve, or die of dehydration, or exploded bladder.

[ January 06, 2004, 18:01: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Lord Hammer January 6th, 2004 08:30 PM

Re: Time to play
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Saxon:
How long does it take people to play a game? How much time do you put into the game? Are you balancing this with significant others, jobs or school? Or am I just slower than a sloth with a hangover?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, let's put it his way: I average about 16 hours for one game on the smallest map against one or two Ai opponents. I have only really begun to understand Ermor in all three separate "themes" with two to three Pretender types each. I have been playing every day since Dec. 19th since my kids have been home from elementary school vacation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif . I just started yesterday as Ulm and i imagine it will be another two or three weeks before i go through that phase. I'm just scratching the surface of the game so far...thank God i have a good wife and i'm retired at 41 (Football) so i can enjoy the enormity of this awesome game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .So to answer your question: your not slow, this game is just HUGE, we should have paid double http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif really! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

aldin January 6th, 2004 08:53 PM

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Saxon,

Balancing Wife and Kids is the hardest part for me too, but I find I can usually slip a couple hours a day in if I give up some sleep. Normally I recover the sleep when the new of the game wears off. I'm having a hard time making that work with this one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Oh yeah, a lot of people are really familiar with various nations/themes because they played a lot of Dominions I and there's quite a bit that's similar from what I've gathered.

~Aldin

ps Lord Hammer, I thought you ex-footballers were supposed to be dumb as bricks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Lord Hammer January 6th, 2004 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by aldin:
Saxon,

Balancing Wife and Kids is the hardest part for me too, ps Lord Hammer, I thought you ex-footballers were supposed to be dumb as bricks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Am i a better parent now that Dominions 2 has come out? Curse you Illwinter http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I'm one of those rare ones that had smarts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif especially when you consider my 6'7" 290lb frame http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Before PC games i was "The Hammer", now it's "Lord Hammer" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Saxon January 7th, 2004 10:28 AM

Re: Time to play
 
Lord Hammer,

Jumping totally off topic, let me ask you a personal question. Our family has a theory that big people need more sleep. I am six four and sleep more than my shorter mom and dad. My cousin married a former NFL linebacker and he was your size. He also slept all the time, including falling asleep at family parties. We used to dare the little kids to go and draw on his face, but they were all too afraid!

Any way, have you noticed the big people you know sleeping more than the small ones?

Gandalf Parker January 7th, 2004 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Saxon:
Lord Hammer,
Any way, have you noticed the big people you know sleeping more than the small ones?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Putting "how much sleep" (with the quotes around all 3 words) into google led me to http://library.thinkquest.org/25553/...ll/index.shtml

licker January 7th, 2004 05:40 PM

Re: Time to play
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Hammer:

QUOTE]Am i a better parent now that Dominions 2 has come out? Curse you Illwinter http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I'm one of those rare ones that had smarts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif especially when you consider my 6'7" 290lb frame http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Before PC games i was "The Hammer", now it's "Lord Hammer" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The Hammer eh? Then it hit me... Good Lord! Jack Ham? But no, the age is wrong and he wasn't that big...

Sigh, still trying to figure out who you are, though you may not want anyone to bother with that, heh, it'd be alot easier if you told me what team(s) you played for http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

All that aside I'd be curious to hear from a real live NFL alum what team they favor this season, me? I'm a big Pats fan, though I'd be happy to see the Eagles and McNabb finally make it to the SB (if not win it).

More on topic... I find it hard to get in much playing while the family is home, about all I can muster is ~1hour to check in on PBEM stuff and maybe try a few turns or check out a quick start for a new design.

Lord Hammer January 7th, 2004 07:32 PM

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Hey All,
First off out of respect for this forum, and any other i used to frequent, i do not elaborate any on Football or the like. After all, this is a game forum and i come here to escape my aches and pains and my family http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .I am nobody famous,ever since i played in college they called me "The Hammer", it's even tattooed a few places among other grim abominations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif . I have NO feelings on the sorry state of the NFL of late...panzies http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . Anyhow to the sleep question: Yes, i can sleep for 12 hours easy if i've been really active and have no plans for the day. On the other hand, like my son, when i'm awake i'm like a tornado http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ...go figure. Very intense i guess http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif The bigger you are the slower your engine takes to warm up but once it's up there's no stopping it! I love this game, and that is where i play "now" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Saxon January 8th, 2004 03:11 PM

Re: Time to play
 
Lord Hammer,

Thanks for answering the sleep question and no worries about keeping football where it belongs, on the field. It is interesting what you say about you and your son being tornados, that is just the way my cousin’s husband was. Either all on or all off! I think this may have been mentioned at the divorce…

Back to the issue of playing time in Dominions, I sat down Last night and looked at my game. I realized that I was going to win, so I jumped quickly through a couple of turns just to see a few things. There was a Crystal Castle which I wanted to capture, just to see what was inside. I also wanted to see my Siege Golum in action. Then, I sat down and started thinking about what new race I wanted to try out, I was not going to get a lot more out of the old game. Maybe I just need to do this earlier than I used to.

As for the new race, time to try the water lovers, it will be a big change.

Lord Hammer January 8th, 2004 08:49 PM

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Saxon,
@your cousin's divorce http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif You slow down a "little" after 40, my ex-wife is also my new wife and the mother of our two kids http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . I've been working on Ulm as of late, really kicked butt...but...i'm tired of using Earth and Death summons to rule the battlefield so i'm experimenting with the Moloch Fire 10. He's a great Combat pretender but i can't amass a big enough army against C'tis to expand more than a 1/3 of the map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif . I win every battle with my Iron Faith Sacred Cavalry and "Lord Hammer" the Moloch but...this game is so addictive! Out of guilt, i suppose http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif , i've been playing more with the kids at night...tackle football in the back yard. Don't worry, i don't play TOO hard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif .People always say "Wow, for a big guy you sure can move" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Thilock_Dominus January 8th, 2004 08:54 PM

Re: Time to play
 
We need a patch to solve the balance issue between Dominions 2 and my wife! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gandalf Parker January 8th, 2004 08:58 PM

Re: Time to play
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Thilock_Dominus:
We need a patch to solve the balance issue between Dominions 2 and my wife! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">To solve the balance issues between my hobby addiction (computers) and my wife, I got her interested in computers.

But I dont think that will work this time. If I got her interested in Dominions I would LOSE!
OFTEN!
And way too quickly!

Saxon January 9th, 2004 05:56 AM

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I tried the “get the girlfriend interesting in computers” trick and it worked… I ended up playing a lot of multiplayer Diablo as a Paladin, while she was an archer Amazon. That meant I got to wade into the melee and get pounded while she stood back safely and fired arrows into the mix. Even in computer games I get the dirty jobs! Also popular was sneaking up behind me in Half Life with a crowbar… She never did go for single player games, but as I have a LAN at home, the multiplayer option worked out pretty well for us. Shame the relationship didn’t work out as well. The new one is a journalist and thinks computers are for working, so I have to start the enlightenment process all over again.

Lord Hammer January 9th, 2004 07:00 AM

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Computers for working? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Who would of thought http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .I hear there are a lot of good paying jobs as a "game" journalist http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif .

PhilD January 9th, 2004 07:42 PM

Re: Time to play
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Saxon:
I tried the “get the girlfriend interesting in computers” trick and it worked… I ended up playing a lot of multiplayer Diablo as a Paladin, while she was an archer Amazon. That meant I got to wade into the melee and get pounded while she stood back safely and fired arrows into the mix. Even in computer games I get the dirty jobs! Also popular was sneaking up behind me in Half Life with a crowbar… She never did go for single player games, but as I have a LAN at home, the multiplayer option worked out pretty well for us. Shame the relationship didn’t work out as well. The new one is a journalist and thinks computers are for working, so I have to start the enlightenment process all over again.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hah!

My girlfriend is almost as much into computer games as I am (just stretching things a bit), only mostly not the same games. She's owned a PC for almost as long as I have, way before we managed to move in together - now of course we have a LAN, even though we haven't managed to play something together. Pity she's not into wargames or strategy games, though.

And I'm the one who works with computers. Just not too much at home. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


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