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Kristoffer O January 21st, 2004 10:57 PM

Map making aid
 
I have just added a map making aid on the Illwinter site. It's just a xcf file (gimp) with some trees and mountains. Just cut and paste. I hope it will encourage mapmaking. I wonder what took me so long.

If you need the file in another format I'll make another one.

Gandalf Parker January 21st, 2004 11:23 PM

Re: Map making aid
 
Thanks much. I guess I should put up some of the palettes I did which make the GIMP rendering scripts work better. Between the two its a good start. Here is an example of a rendered map from GIMP.
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion/rendered.tga

BTW if no one mentioned it yet I do appreciate the different temple images for each race. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Nice thematic touch.

[ January 21, 2004, 21:26: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Arralen January 22nd, 2004 01:11 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
I have just added a map making aid on the Illwinter site. It's just a xcf file (gimp) with some trees and mountains.
...
I wonder what took me so long.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Me too ....

I already set my, ahem, "phase-in-my-life-attenderess" to make me some symbols/icons so I can get rid of those ugly DOM-1 style maps. She's quite good with pen&pencil&paper ..

Kirstens Sci-Fi and Fantasy Art Gallery
Kirstens Fan Art Gallery

Sadly, she's not quite that good when english is concerned. Check out here pages anyway ... while I'm doing some articles for a living and return to mapmaking afterwards.

yours,
Arralen

[ January 22, 2004, 00:00: Message edited by: Arralen ]

January 22nd, 2004 01:13 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
I see you modeled for the Jack Sparrow doll!

Arralen January 22nd, 2004 01:16 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
Sssssshh!!

It's pure coincidence that that doll looks like anything from some film. Or bears the same name. really. Otherwise there would be copyright issues... .

And o.c. Kirsten would never think about making such a doll for someone else, unless she may give it away for free ... .

same for the beanie dragons, by the way ...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

A.

[ January 21, 2004, 23:20: Message edited by: Arralen ]

Arralen January 22nd, 2004 02:20 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
O.k. gave it a try ..
Random map created by fu-script (GIMP), icons manually added.

A cutout from the map - the part I actually worked on.
http://people.freenet.de/stefan.weni...f_1cropped.png

The whole .tga for download - not that interesting perhaps.

The GIMP gradient file I used for generating the map.

Hope this works and the files don't get deleted too fast (it's 'free' server space, you know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

A.


PS: We need hills!!

PPS: I occures to me that there are different perspectives used in this pic - the map is top down, the icons are from an somewhat angled perspective. I'll try to mod the map to fit this ..

[ January 22, 2004, 00:24: Message edited by: Arralen ]

January 22nd, 2004 02:27 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
The Icons being slightly off top perspective isn't that bad. You just have to make sure you draw your borders correctly and it shouldn't be an issue at all. I prefer it that way.

Arralen January 22nd, 2004 07:53 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
Bump - any comments if the colors are o.k. for most of you?

A.

January 22nd, 2004 08:01 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
The colors look fine to me. Make a frosty mountain and a volcano, and maybe a jungle (if you have the icons) and post the pic, then we could tell on things like that. Also a river and a marsh? (Maybe make a Delta) for swampy effects.

Saber Cherry January 22nd, 2004 08:04 AM

Re: Map making aid
 
Looks pretty good...

Let's see. Beaches (pink-white or yellowish) would be nice. Hmmmm...

The size ratio of icons to landforms give the map an impression of being tiny.

Gandalf Parker January 22nd, 2004 03:47 PM

Re: Map making aid
 
Looks good. I was playing in the same tools so I understand that this is a map generated automatically by script with some of the icons Kristoffer provided laid down. Looks like a good start.

Ive been playing with the high end of my palette to try and get it to do decent mountainous areas (brown climbing to a grey top).

How do you think swamp/river might easily be added? Just scribble a river with blue, select by color, then blur the selection?

Or maybe a palette gradually going green->yellow (beach), yellow->light blue (river), then back up thru beach to green? So its green on the sides with blue in the middle. Draw with an airbrush type stroke?

Ive been playing with trying to get "edge" to find the color boundarys as a starting point for provinces. Then just draw more across areas that are too big.

NOTE: the program used to do all this is the same as the devs use. A powerful Paint program which is free and available for most platforms. Its called GIMP

[ January 22, 2004, 13:52: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]


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