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onomastikon January 23rd, 2004 06:11 PM

my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Everything was going fine and normal, my ghost king sneaked into an independent province -- after "host", I got the message there was a battle (why??), I watched it, he fled, but didnt show up anywhere. He didnt die, either. Made sure by checking the hall of fame, he is still in it. But he is NOWHERE. Checked all provinces and used "n" button. Grrr. I cant revive him either. Anybody know if this is a bug?

HJ January 23rd, 2004 06:22 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
He got discovered while sneaking in. Were there any friendly provinces around that one that he could have reatreated to? If not, he's dead. Why you can't revive him if that's the case, I wouldn't know.

NTJedi January 23rd, 2004 06:36 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
First... he was discovered while sneaking thus causing a battle.
then
Sounds like he died when retreating and no friendly provinces were nearby thus killing him.

Your priests can do 'Call God' which will eventually bring him back... but his magic will be weakened.

Breschau January 23rd, 2004 07:43 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Try pressing N to cycle through commanders (if you haven't already).. if he's not actually dead (no cross next to his name in the hall of fame and no ability to call god with your priests) and N doesn't eventually cycle round to him, sounds like a bug.

Lord Hammer January 24th, 2004 07:23 AM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
On the same note, if you don't have any priests to "call god" you will lose...POOF! If you are using your Pretender aggressively you need to make sure you got his back covered as far as dominion goes so he can retreat. That won't save you from assassins though but you'll have an edge in "your" dominion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif . The "N" key is invaluable http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Norfleet January 24th, 2004 07:36 AM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
It also helps if your pretender has the Immortal attribute and you fight in your own Dominion: "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I'll just come back and pick up all my stuff."

onomastikon January 24th, 2004 12:10 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
No, like I said, I pressed "n", I cant "call God", he DIDNT DIE (still alive in the Hall of Fame), and ALL of the surrounding provinces were friendly.
The computer apparently thought I wanted to attack, it didnt say "XX was discovered", but rather "we failed to conquer the independent province".
He's dissapeared, not dead. What the hell?

johan osterman January 24th, 2004 12:21 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Send your .trn file to: support at illwinter dot com.

onomastikon January 24th, 2004 05:20 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
support sent to illwinter.com? Can they see what happened? ok thanks.

(address edited)

[ January 25, 2004, 12:24: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

HJ January 24th, 2004 07:22 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Just a thought: make a backup of the game folder, then go back in the game and host the turn. Can you call your god on the subsequent turn? Maybe the game didn't register it as he only just died? I think something like that happens with the prophet as well, but I forget whther it's the same with pretenders.

[ January 24, 2004, 17:23: Message edited by: HJ ]

Lord Hammer January 24th, 2004 09:15 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Okay, that happened to me a LONG time ago and i came here for answers. I had already started another game but the one in question i had spent 13-16 hours on and POOF, my God vanished. Maybe it is a bug then, it hasn't happened again so far luckily. I had 3/4 of the map with temples and priests and POOF...i was new to the game so i restarted and had no save file http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif .Oh, he wasn't dead either http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif !

[ January 24, 2004, 19:17: Message edited by: Lord Hammer ]

PvK January 24th, 2004 09:31 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Was it also involving sneaking the pretender and getting caught and running away?

PvK

Psitticine January 24th, 2004 10:06 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by onomastikon:
support#illwinter.com? Can they see what happened?
ok thanks.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If anybody can, it'd be them. That's the direct line to the developers.

Bizarre bug, in any case. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[ January 25, 2004, 12:26: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Lord Hammer January 24th, 2004 10:47 PM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PvK:
Was it also involving sneaking the pretender and getting caught and running away?

PvK

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, it was the POD going from one territory with a Castle and Temple to the next, i had a few other armies with him but the ai had sent a huge force at the same time and i "failed to capture" the province. The battle movie did not show him die nor did it say it in the log. All the surving commanders and mercenaries showed up at the two adjacent provinces but the POD was gone...not dead and in the HOF http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif . 3/4 of the map, which i owned, just went independant and i lost but no death...no message...nada http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif .

Arralen January 25th, 2004 09:31 AM

Re: my pretender -- vanished!?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by onomastikon:
support#ilwinter.com? Can they see what happened? (address edited)
ok thanks.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why do you think did he write ".. to: support at illwinter dot com." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ?

Maybe because he likes the spam all adresses will receive which can be gather from websites, forums and google archive by scripted robots/spiders ?!!??!

A.

[ January 25, 2004, 12:25: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]


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