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Coffeedragon January 27th, 2004 04:51 PM

Attacked by Independents -without Event?
 
Is this a weird bug or can it legally happen?

I conquered a province from Caelum, and *that very turn* I was attacked in the just conquered land by a strong Indy force, who wiped out a valuable army (30 units). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif There was *no* event message, no explanation for the attack at all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Since when can Indies attack? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif They are supposed to behave passively and wait for the player to choose the right time and place to kill them!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif And once killed, they are not supposed to reappear. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Raz 24 January 27th, 2004 05:00 PM

Re: Attacked by Independents -without Event?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Coffeedragon:
Is this a weird bug or can it legally happen?

They are supposed to behave passively and wait for the player to choose the right time and place to kill them!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif And once killed, they are not supposed to reappear. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Give them a chance , man! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

General Tacticus January 27th, 2004 05:05 PM

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Perhaps Caelum got the event message, since they owned the province at the start of the turn, and you got the event, since you owned it at the end ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I have seen indies attack provinces on several occasion, but I believe you get a message in addition to the battle report.

mivayan January 27th, 2004 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Perhaps Caelum got the event message, since they owned the province at the start of the turn, and you got the event, since you owned it at the end ?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is most likely what happened, I have seen this happen several times. I get an even with indeps attacking, then an enemy nation attacks and steals the province, then the indeps attacks the enemy. All in the same turn.

Coffeedragon January 27th, 2004 06:25 PM

Re: Attacked by Independents -without Event?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by General Tacticus:
Perhaps Caelum got the event message, since they owned the province at the start of the turn, and you got the event, since you owned it at the end ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yup, I think thatīs the only logical explanation.

Thatīs the trouble with nations who canīt keep their house in order, and suddenly innocent people taking their provinces away from them get attacked by anarchists! What is the world coming to? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

void January 28th, 2004 03:47 AM

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a ritual maybe.
not sure a global enchantment or a standard ritual. illusion-army/ghost ship/ghost rider or something like would cause this: a indy force attacked your province w/o event message.

velk January 28th, 2004 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by void:
a ritual maybe.
not sure a global enchantment or a standard ritual. illusion-army/ghost ship/ghost rider or something like would cause this: a indy force attacked your province w/o event message.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The ghost ship armada is flagged as belonging to the caster, I would imagine the other rituals are similar.

( E.g. when it attacks the combat replay is 'Ermor attacking Caelum' or whatever )

void January 28th, 2004 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by velk:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by void:
a ritual maybe.
not sure a global enchantment or a standard ritual. illusion-army/ghost ship/ghost rider or something like would cause this: a indy force attacked your province w/o event message.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The ghost ship armada is flagged as belonging to the caster, I would imagine the other rituals are similar.

( E.g. when it attacks the combat replay is 'Ermor attacking Caelum' or whatever )
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No event.

http://www.9z.net.cn/annie/1.jpg

Who managed this attack?

http://www.9z.net.cn/annie/2.jpg

Whats' happened?

http://www.9z.net.cn/annie/3.jpg

January 28th, 2004 05:55 AM

Re: Attacked by Independents -without Event?
 
Void, there are a few answers.

It could be one of a few spells that is not directly attributed to another player casting it.

Beckoning (Was the fight Vine men and such?)

Imprint Souls (Flaggellants and Militia?)

Raging Hearts

I'm fairly certain that if any of those spells are cast, they are called independants until the provincce is conquerored.

void January 28th, 2004 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by Zen:
Void, there are a few answers.

It could be one of a few spells that is not directly attributed to another player casting it.

Beckoning (Was the fight Vine men and such?)

Imprint Souls (Flaggellants and Militia?)

Raging Hearts

I'm fairly certain that if any of those spells are cast, they are called independants until the provincce is conquerored.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">thanks for ur reply...anyway,it' not my question,Coffeedragon is the owner who confused ^^

just show the log to velk,for his little wrong conjecture:
Quote:

I would imagine the other rituals are similar.
( E.g. when it attacks the combat replay is 'Ermor attacking Caelum' or whatever )
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There are lots "ANONYMOUS" distant attack rituals..


btw, Imprint Souls IS NOT a anonymous ritual. Flaggellants and madman (not militia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ) under the caster's control.

[ January 28, 2004, 04:06: Message edited by: void ]

January 28th, 2004 06:04 AM

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Hrm. It's just that you are so easy to understand is why I understood http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Point that at Coffee then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

void January 28th, 2004 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by Zen:
Hrm. It's just that you are so easy to understand is why I understood http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Point that at Coffee then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Here are some ANONYMOUS distant attack spells:

Ghost rider.(on the other hand, you can judge accurately that who is the caster)
Phantasmal Attack.
Beckoning.
Seeking Arrow.
Blight.
Raging Heart.
Baleful Star.
Volcanic.
Tidal Wave.
Black Death.

Not sure that Earth Attack is an anonymous spell or not..

Coffeedragon January 28th, 2004 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by void:
thanks for ur reply...anyway,it' not my question,Coffeedragon is the owner who confused ^^

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am not confused at all; http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Tacticus cleared that up already.

I was attacked by typical Indies: Heavy Cavalry, Light Cavalry, and Militia. Most certainly an event, not a spell.


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