Request
 

Just like to first thank Targa for a wonderful map and Gandalf for his work (get the *** kissing over with first =).

I dont know if this is overstepping my boundaries, but I would kill for Gandalf to make Targa's map randomized. It just looks like it has such great potential with a little randomization thrown in. So that is my request, pure and simple.

Thx again
The_Maxx (addicted to randomization.map)

Re: Request
 

You're welcome. As for randomization, GP's already asked about doing it with CoT, so I see no reason why he wouldn't do so with Karan. I doubt he'll request that you kill anyone though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Heehee. Thanks for the nice words.

Have you played the randomization of the Miirunst map?
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion.../MiirunstX.map

When Tiltowait made it for me t0 randomize I told him I thought it was way too nice a map for that. It deserved to stand alone. But he still wanted it so I made one. It re-rolls every day.

As for Targa's map, its a great map. But I dont think it will work well for randomizing. Too many choke-points. The game I just played on it, I started in the province with the skull mountain. There was one land province and one water province as neighbors. If a randomization put 10 monoliths in one and 10 sphinxs in the other it would have been a LONG game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I could write a weaker randomzier for it but I think the map is too good for it.

You want more randoms? Different ones? I could do one with one of the random-rolled map images.

Re: Request
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gah! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif Shows what happens when you spend too many hours of non-stop working on a map. That province shoulda been #nostart (which I did do to some of the interior provinces that would have been poor starting positions, like that one). Oh well...

Re: Request
 

What? no request for killing anyone? All the better I suppose (sigh).

I agree with Gandalf that your map (Targa) is excellent, however, i must protest that a randomization of it would hamper the quality of it. I believe it can only get better =).

So without further aduueeee, I still stand by my request. If a weaker Version of the randomization must be put in place to allow the map to shine even more brightly!...then so be it!

The_Maxx (*Seriously* addicted to randomization.map).

-@ Gandalf, yes the milrunst, ive played it to death along with the poke-eye map (still my favorite btw).

@ everyone else, if you havent tried the random maps, you are all missing out, bwah bwah haha.

[ February 11, 2004, 00:00: Message edited by: The_Maxx ]

Re: Request
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey, we're talking about a game map, not a Picasso or Rembrandt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif If there's a demand for it, and people will play it, then I vote for randomization.

Re: Request
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And I! How many dominions players would turn up their noses at more options?


Gandalf, did you ever make a randomizer that would spread around specific special sites?

Re: Request
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gah! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif Shows what happens when you spend too many hours of non-stop working on a map. That province shoulda been #nostart (which I did do to some of the interior provinces that would have been poor starting positions, like that one). Oh well... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">From what I can tell, nostart doesn't work. I flagged provinces as nostart in the editor on the World map, because they're just really awful places to start, and whenever an AI race starts on them, they tend to become stranded and never are able to leave.

Nonetheless, I start up a new game, and end up on that crappy island anyway. Doublechecking, I find I did, in fact, flag it nostart. Must not be working right.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Add 512 to the 2nd number found after #terrain in the .map file. Should work as nostart.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I was under the impression that the map editor built into Dominions II was able to set this correctly. If the Dom2 Map Editor isn't setting the nostart bit, which bit *IS* it setting....and what does THAT one do?

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My mistake. I misread and thought you were using #nostart (and meant that that wasn't working). Bleah.

Anyways....as I re-read (correctly this time) your post, it should have worked. When I made Clash of the Titans map, I used the Dom2 map editor and flagged all provinces as nostart except the two starting spots. I've played numerous times on that map and always start in one of those two provinces, so it appears to be working.

Are you perhaps playing the scenario, and it has commands that override the nostart indicated in the .map file?

(512 is the value that the map editor adds to a province for it to be designated as nostart)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, it's not the scenario. I regularly play on the World map, being that it's my natural favorite, and every so often, a player would wind up starting on an isolated island province like New Zealand or Hawaii. For a non-seafaring nation, that's pretty much a mulligan right there. When it happens to the AI, you can more or less write that AI out of the game.

So to avoid this, I flagged all of the offending "really godawful" start provinces nostart in the map editor....but upon starting the game, I found that every so often, I'd spawn on one of those invalid locations anyway.

Re: Request
 

I can almost feel the power of randomization coming soon to a dominions map near you.

Im not giving up until someone tells me to shut it (it must be rude and blunt as well).

The_Maxx (you guessed it, still addicted to randomized.map)

Re: Request
 

You were talking out loud again.