How old are Dom2 players?
 

Just curious about the demographics of Dominions 2 players...

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Interesting that 1 in 6 are in my age group: too old.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is no "too old". You're only too old when you declare yourself to be.

Still, I find it interesting that only 6% of replies were "under 20". I'm not that surprised that this game seems to appeal to an older crowd than, say, Warcraft or Counterstrike (for the record: I did play some Warcraft, but never any CS; Dominions 2 is my first ever MP game on the PC), but to find myself in the majority age group (I'm 34) is refreshing.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is no "too old". You're only too old when you declare yourself to be.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm too old every time I'm reminded of the fact by my damn arthritic knees, protesting as I get up out of my chair to go get more Pepsi (the drink of the next generation{<font size=1>tm</font>}). The mind is willing, Phil, the body is another matter. It is a constant fight, and not one I always win.

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And I'm still the lone outlier on the chart. I'm old! I'm old and I have a long beard! If you think you have it bad now, it'll only get worse for you.

Fortunately, the same willpower and indifference to physical hardship that allows me to play a 13 hour Marathon out to the point where everyone else folds from exhaustion also allows me to ignore all of the aches and pains of being old. After all, no pain, no gain.

The key here is, when something hurts, to imagine how it could hurt even more. Then it will cease to be bother you at all. If your knees are bothering you, imagine how much more they would bother you if they folded over the wrong way. Hold that image for a bit.

Do your knees still hurt? I didn't think so.

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Norfleet's the old one? That Arm Commander picture made me think you were younger. Someone that old that plays real-time strategy and turn-based strategy? You must be (insert positive term in use by youth). I wish I end up like that when I'm old. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ack, all that does is transfer the ache from my knees to my head. What a terrible mental image. Stop it with the pseudo-psychobabble. I don't need that sort of relief. That's what modern drugs like ibuprofen are for ...

[ February 14, 2004, 09:48: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Meh. Just because it's real time and requires a slightly faster mouse finger, an old man can't play? Although I primarily prefer strategy games, I play all types. Not to mention in those twitchy games, there's something perversely funny about some young whipper-snapper being fragged by an old geezer like myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Youth and vitality is no substitute for age and treachery.

Growing old is what you make of it: You'll come to realize that you're only young once, but you're never too old to be immature. When you're my age, you're too old for people to tell you what you should and should not do!

[ February 14, 2004, 10:39: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good, good. Now you've made a start. Now that your head hurts instead, try and ponder something that will transfer that pain to someplace else, until you find whatever it is that still hurts to be tolerable.

Me, I ponder until I transfer the pain off to the point where my hair hurts. I'm bald, so this doesn't bother me much.

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I was deleted (no harm, no foul Gandalf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) but am determined! The average age of Dom2 players is...(drumroll please)... 31 (31.66 to be weirdly more precise yet not exact)! Now I suppose this is exactly the right place in time to declare my 31-ness. Yes, it's true, I am the average Dom2 player. As such, I shall regularly triumph against the AI... and regularly fail in MP. I shall come up with 'undefeatable strategies' and have them defeated. I will find the best nation and theme (over and over and over again as my tastes change or I become Enchanted with a new magic spell/item). I will put dozens of hours into perfecting a pretender/nation combo - then use something else less powerful just for the fun of it. But mostly, I will enjoy this wonderful forum filled with Dom2 players just like myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

~Aldin

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heehee. Excellent post. Yes you seem to have it down pat.

Oh and maybe one more. And even before you feel you have a grasp for the game you will still jump to every chance to try and convince other people that its the best game there is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I have it a little easier where I tend to preach this. As I run the place as a totalitarian dictatorship, I simply pronounce it to be the best game I have ever played. Anyone who attempts to badmouth the game and imply that it is in any way less than awesome is punished harshly for blasphemy.

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Good to know. 34 and counting. Married etc. Nice to know that real humans play this game and like it.

Suppose however that the large majority (> 90%) of players is male? Are there more than say 3 female persons who visit this forum?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes.

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Im actually 12.

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Bump.

I hope bumping this poll doesn't offend anyone.

I would like to see how the facts have changed, or if they have changed, now that Dominions II has gotten all those new players.

The facts when posting this message were:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">
Less than 15: 1, 1 %
15-19: 6, 5 %
20-24: 24, 18%
25-29: 31, 23%
30-34: 33, 25%
35-39: 18, 14%
40-44: 12, 9%
45-49: 4, 3%
50-54: 3, 2%
55-59: 0, 0%
60 or more: 1, 1%

total votes: 133</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Should other "Who/what/where are you" polls be bumped? I quess not, and because of that am ont doing that.

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I am surprised how old people play Dom II. I have played a lot of Warcraft, cs, etc. popular games, and in those games I am quite old, but here i really feel myself young.

But the age is only positive thing, no abusive Posts and maybe better MP games I think.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It shouldn't be a huge surprise. Dominions II has a somewhat oldschool feel to it: It doesn't have those super 3D graphics that every new game MUST have in order to sell. It's not made as a mass market game, and we old people remember the days when games were works of art, and value that artistic integrity: Modern shovelware gaming does not impress us.

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I'm playing with a bunch of frens of mine and we are oldies... 37, 37, 39, 43 and 41.

I hardly see any of them in the forum, unless of course they are using a different nickname. Well, something to add to the stats.. heh heh

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I'm 50 something ... I forget.
What was the question?
Oh well, time for my nap.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I am only 16 and i remember Bubble Bobble, Star Control, etc. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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I am only 22 and remember Dungeon Master http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Seems something is wrong with my upbringing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Since we're reflecting on past strategy gaming experiences, one can guesstimate my age by what I remember playing "back in the days":

- Fortress of the Witch King
- War of the Lance
- Sword of Aragorn
- Xyphus
- Sword of Fargoal

and of course: Master of Magic!

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If someone wants to try Master of Magic, it is available from www.the-underdogs.org as abandonware...

For those who don't know about it: Civilization-like interface, great deal of nice spells. Many bugs and many of them exploitable. It was never meant to be played in multiplayer, so the balance was thrown away and designers instead went for good gaming experience...

It has some things Dom-fans won't like, but it has great innovations too! And it is good for a few hours' game that does not need real thought to go into it.

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MoM was great!

Oh, and Sword of Fargoal? *lol* Played that... even got down to the fifteenth level a few times...

Bum--bum-ba-bum--bum-bum-bum--ba-bum-ba-bum...


Now, a game I really liked was (is) Mail Order Monsters. Cute little interface and all, and MULE is still one of the best economics games, imho. (I'm only 27... and I like that I can say only) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Wyatt

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I remember the days before computers. Only vaguely, but I remember. Played "adventure" on a Zenith CP/M when I was about 8.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hah! Whippersnapper. My first forays into gaming goodness was through such esteemed titles as:

- International Soccer (on a ROM cartridge)
- Hunchback
- Manic Miner
- Jumpman
- Blagger
- Summer Games
- Commando
- Bruce Lee
- Choplifter
- Barbarian

and many, many, many more. (Floppy disks? Floppy disks We didn't need no steenking floppy disks.)

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Barbarian, (or Death sword) was quite unique game... the feeling in it is great. Pity I have found nothing like it, I liked the controls and all the things you were able to do. I'm not sure about the decapitation, though, as it had so strong impact in the game.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Bruce Lee was a damn cool game, especially since you could play it as a two player game, with the second player taking the role of a green sumo with a useless bellow as a tertiary attack.

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All of you are still too young. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

My first foray into computer gaming was *writing* a lunar lander "sim" in Fortran (and later PL/1) on an IBM 360/40 mainframe. Input via punchcards (remember the model 029/129 keypunch machines?) or the ops console, output via greenbar paper on a line printer. Hmmm, framerate was 0.1-0.2 fps ...

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For those into retro-strategy gaming I would suggest:

-Lords of Midnight (spectrum 48k game, but a PC port exists and is only a few Kbs)

-Centurion, defender of the crown

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The first game i ever played was Xenon II. Then i discovered Sokoban, and finally Dune 2. That whas the beginning for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . I think those games came in the late 80's, at least Xenon II. Later i got a hang of Commander Keen and stuff like that.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Personally, I'd suggest Djengis Khan or Bandit Kings of China, although they are (slightly) more recent.

Whatever happened to the "Beer and Pretzel" computer strategy games? Games such as "Ports of Call" or "Oil Imperium" where you could bench three or four friends in front of the computer and have fun for an evening? Hot-seat games weren't just hot-seat because of technical limitations - they were a special kind of fun.

Darned it - I'm too young to be nostalgic!

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Tower of the Moon

It seems to be a home to unofficial Lords of Midnight 1&2 PC-conVersions... I thought the same guy was doing a remake, but didn't find it so it was propably my mind doing tricks for me.

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My first pc game experience was probably digger (and I still play it today).
My first real strategy game? Probably The Ancient Art of War by Borderbund (Awesome game, availabe at the Underdogs. The games I played most in the 80's (second half) were probably Digger, Pirates!, Wasteland, Ancient Art of War and Bards Tale 1.
Sigh. Those were the days .... (I could live on a candy bar and a can of coke for two days, needing no sleep and no light, and still geting good grades in school, somehow.)

[ March 17, 2004, 16:24: Message edited by: Tricon ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Incidentally, Sid Meier is working on a new Version of Pirates! these days. Might turn out sweet, sweet, sweet - or it might turn out to be "oh, woe for what could have been."

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If most of the games today weren't so crappy you wouldn't *need* to be nostalgic ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yup, heard about it. Hoping for the best here!
For those who like the pirate genre and cannot wait, I suggest Port Royale 2 coming out in April (at least in Europe). Right now, it looks even better than Sid Meiers Pirates!

I haven't played Port Royale 1 but they have a very solid fan base.


Sorry for the topic drift.

[ March 17, 2004, 16:37: Message edited by: Tricon ]

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Tough to recall the first computer game I played. Probably "pong".

I think the first strategy game for a computer I can remember playing was "Empire". I can't even find any references to it on Google, but it was a 4-color title. I don't even remember what I was playing it on - either an early IBM PC or an Apple ][, I would suppose.

Edit - Thanks for the pointer to the-underdogs.org, great site. Empires (the Version I first played) was released in 1978. I probably played it in the early 80s sometime. I have some memories of playing the 16-color Version during college around '88, but everything from that time is more-or-less buried in a beer-soaked haze.

[ March 17, 2004, 17:15: Message edited by: Unwise ]

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Another great game, though.

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Wow... I had some really late nights on my C64, good games, well written, Knights Of Legend - Kings Bounty - The Ultima Series, as for my age I was in collage when most of those titles were out, wish someone would update some of the old classics, before that I was a Atari junky Adventure on the 2600 was one of the frist experiences I had with a strategy type game

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The appearance of quite a few new sigs promted me to bump this. (I'm a statistics freak.)

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The average age has gone down abit since Last I looked but still higher than many game communitys.

NEW PEOPLE: jump to
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...424;p=3#000001
and "vote" in the Poll

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Since someone brought up the C64, does anyone beside me remember Tunnels of Doom on the TI 99/4A? It was a great RPG game with strong elements of strat and tactics. It was also what started me on the strat and RPG games.

Rasorow

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For what it's worth, I'm in the plurality bracket (27% at 25-29) but have been gaming since kindergarten on our old Apple II+ and with the D&D red boxed set. The oldest games I remember loving? Chivalry, Aztec, Choplifter, and Karateka.

Good times. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I playd both centurion and defender of the crown!

Great games, for their time.

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I played MUD games Online before there were PC's or Internet (thats really my picture there).
My first computer was a C64 and that was after I graduated, was in the military, and married.

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Machiavelli:
The Prince (probably the best diplomacy style game I have ever seen, best hot seat game I have ever seen)
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Archon II
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X-COM I and II(Duh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )
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Master of Monsters(sega genesis only so get an emulator)
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Panzer General(Invading Washington D.C. was interesting.)
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Like to thank the mention of War of the Lance. I had totally forgotten that game. It was awesome at the time.

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I'm 26 years old. My first experience with Strategi games was on commodore 64 with the legendary game 'Defender of the Crown' http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . *all hail Defender of the crown* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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29, almost thirty.

I too remember playing Empire on my PC, but it was text X and Os moving across a landscape.

Also played Zork and Sword of Glass.

Then the light broke through and we got Bard's Tale I...

When we got Hercules (4 color) graphics), we were the bomb on the street http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Wildcard