Fear
 

I asked this question a while back, but didn't get a definitive answer: does Cause Fear (+10) incur a harder morale check on the opponent than Cause Fear (+5)? IOW, is the parenthetical number just for AoE, or does it also affect the check? And if it does affect the check, how so?

TIA.

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quote from a dev

Yes, and every full five makes the morale roll 1 more difficult. Fear 0 is area 5 no morale mod. so a critter with fear 15 has area 20 -3 fear mod. A death mage with 1 death, area 1 morale mod -1. The fear roll works like morale in battles, which means I am not entirely clear about the details, but squad size average morale etc will factor in if squad flees or not.

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Thanks Pocus! Fast reply. Guess I need to go ahead and put a second Horror Helm on my Wyrm ASAP ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I'm going to put a horror helmet on you! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT, HMM!? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What is your problem Argitoth? I dont see why you are not civil with Arryn.

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Sadly you can't put duplicate items on a commander to get twice the effect. Put a black steel helmet on the other head instead. Buys you a a little more time to be scary.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Normally yes. I specifically asked Zen about this a couple of weeks ago and he said that Horror Helms are cumulative. I'll have to test it myself, whenever I can get a second helm in the same province as my wyrm and do some swapping.

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Statistical modifiers stack. It's only special affects like path combination and other effects that don't stack.

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I had an Ulm game where I started with a PoD with death-9. That and a Horror helmet and the corpse-candle shield.
Fear+29 or something like that. He didnt kill so many but boy did they flee from him.

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I find that, in practice, it is really just the miscellaneous items that don't stack for duplicate items. Two weapon combos work fine in terms of higher bonuses (as far as I've ever noticed, that is) and I've double-helmed many a Wyrm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">A Dragon Helmet or a Horned Helmet on head#2 is also a decent choice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Late in the game,
Picus' and Procas' axes wielded together = +10 Fear

aldiss

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What is your problem Argitoth? I dont see why you are not civil with Arryn. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">lol, it was a joke. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What is your problem Argitoth? I dont see why you are not civil with Arryn. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">lol, it was a joke. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It wasn't funny (except to you). It was childish and annoying. Mainly annoying. And it's not the first time you've done it either. The Last time you did it, Gandalf removed your post. It's too bad that you refuse to learn to not cross the line.

You may be 15, but you act about half that. If you have such bad impulse control, may I suggest that your parents take you to an appropriate doctor for a thorough examination (for ADHD) and some appropriate medication?

This is a classic example of what happens when (immature) children are permitted unrestricted, unsupervised access to the Net ...

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I read Argitoth's statement as a joke. If you found his post "childish and annoying", why say so? Nothing to be gained.

This forum seems to have a mandatory Turmoil 3 scale for participating. So many innocent Posts are taken offensively or discussions turn personal. The frequent bickering can only serve to chase away potential multi-players.

I recommend readers keep a list of people whose Posts devolve into insults. My list contains three people, responsible for the majority of board chaos, and their Posts are 100% ignored. I also do not post, unless very specific and Dominions-related, to avoid misinterpretations and potential conflict.

Let's be civil, if you care about growing the MP community.

Aikamun

[ February 22, 2004, 23:12: Message edited by: Aikamun ]

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I have been the admin for many web forums, newsGroups, IRC channels, and MUSHs. I find that "community" tends to actually be part of the problem. IMHO everyone has the same desires for participating in a community. Those who have a nice wide variety of places they can post have an easier time holding to the subject of the media. They find places that cater to their many needs. Those who have a more limited "world" try to make it fit all of their community needs.

Again, I recommend that some people might want to ask their ISP what has been provided to them for accessing USENET (newsGroups). Without them you may have too many interests for the foum. With them you will have too many forums for your interests.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This could explain why threads go off-topic, but doesn't really explain Aikamun's primary concern (the way I read it) which was the hurtful loss of civility in some threads.

I think this happens in all electronic forums, primarily because of the absence of eye contact and other body language that acts to promote civil behaviour in face to face interactions. It takes a certain amount of maturity and conscious effort to avoid the temptation to be rude, and similarly to understand and forgive rudeness when it's directed at you.

It's not always easy. I used to hang out in USEnet religion Groups because I like to talk religion (even though I'm not religious) but after a sustained personal assault by another poster, I finally had to quit.

By comparison, this forum is a model of decorum.

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As with many things sometimes it takes a reminder that actions do have consequences. Some people are SO surprised when they find out that their ability to use a forum can be blocked.

[ February 23, 2004, 18:37: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I finally had the opportunity to put a second Horror Helm on my wyrm. The Cause Fear number does not change from +5 to +10 for the second helm ...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ah, it was just a (remarkably unfunny) joke. No need to block the guy.
IMHO.

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Arryn, I don't think the numbers are cumulative for the parenthetical power level.

I think, from my albeit low experience, that it might just trigger the Cause Fear twice.

Try playing it and see if the enemies run faster.