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rabelais February 27th, 2004 05:27 PM

Question about path boosters.
 
I'm trying to understand the way path boosters work.


Omniboosters-

I think the Ring of Wizardry/Robe of Archmagi boost all your paths whether you have anything to start in that path or not. Is this really true?


Multiboosters- Things like the elemental staves, ring of sorcery, Tomes of high foo.


This is where I am clueless.

Do you need to already possess a path to see a benefit?


Monoboosters- (earth boots, etc)

Here I *know* you need the path initally to see a benefit.


Is there a consistent rule for classes of items, or is it random and arbitrary?


Thanks for all replies,


Rabe the Soon-to-be-Buffed

[ February 27, 2004, 15:30: Message edited by: rabelais ]

Bossemanden February 27th, 2004 05:32 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
I think you need to have the path already to be able to boost it.

Gandalf Parker February 27th, 2004 05:34 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
The keyword is "boost". OK you get the boost but unless you have a start in the magic nothing happens. As far as I know there is no item which will grant you a start in a magic field.

moodgiesanta February 27th, 2004 05:35 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Yeah, I was using them (Rings of Wizardry) lots in a recent game where I got Enchantresses from a neutral, since they often have 1 in four paths. Pair it with a sorcery ring, and you have 3 strength, 3/4 path mages. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But they don't give you new paths.

Pocus February 27th, 2004 05:44 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
only one spell give you paths when you have not (Forge of Ancients), and only for forging purposes.

Saber Cherry February 27th, 2004 05:56 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rabelais:
I think the Ring of Wizardry/Robe of Archmagi boost all your paths whether you have anything to start in that path or not. Is this really true?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No.

Be wary of the robe, though. The wearer gets eaten pretty soon, so don't put one on a pretender unless you really need to.

Peter Ebbesen February 27th, 2004 07:22 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:

Be wary of the robe, though. The wearer gets eaten pretty soon, so don't put one on a pretender unless you really need to.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unless your pretender is one very tough fellow - or just plain lucky http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

You wouldn't believe how many of my mages ended up with a horror mark in the first game in which I made a Robe of the Magi, as I passed it around a group of mages for forging-boost purposes for a couple of turns before noticing those nice marks left behind http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 27, 2004, 18:40: Message edited by: Peter Ebbesen ]

GavinWheeler February 27th, 2004 08:53 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pocus:
only one spell give you paths when you have not (Forge of Ancients), and only for forging purposes.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Minor niggle: Wishing for "Magic Power" (I think) gives you permanent +1 in all magic paths, except holy/unholy.

Vger February 28th, 2004 11:41 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Hi,

The ONLY item that boosts all magic paths is the Robe of the Magi. The Ring of Wizardry only boosts the elemental paths. Which begs the question of why it costs 80 pearls when the similar Ring of Sorcery only costs 40. It also requires one more in Astral.


Ciao,
V'ger gone

Arryn February 28th, 2004 11:54 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vger:
The Ring of Wizardry only boosts the elemental paths.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe you are mistaken about this. The Wizardry ring boosts all non-holy paths, while the Sorcery ring boosts just astral/nature/death/blood.

[ February 28, 2004, 21:55: Message edited by: Arryn ]

GavinWheeler February 29th, 2004 12:08 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
The Ring of Wizardry definitely boosts all the magical paths in my games - I just checked. Except Holy/Unholy, I assume although I haven't tested it.

The Staves of elemental mastery only boost the elemental paths. There is a unique robe (wishable or kill the bearer) that only boosts 'sorcery' (Astral/Death/Nature/Blood), like the ring. I forget what the Sword of Many colours boosts.

Gateway103 February 29th, 2004 08:06 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Arryn:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Vger:
The Ring of Wizardry only boosts the elemental paths.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe you are mistaken about this. The Wizardry ring boosts all non-holy paths, while the Sorcery ring boosts just astral/nature/death/blood. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think the Ring of Wizardry used to only boost Elemental Paths, at least that is how I remembered it in the unpatched 1.0 game with a testing Virtue in late game, empowered to have at least 1 in all paths (except hold/unholy of course) and testing out more than half of available items.

Of course, I could be wrong if the RoW boost in sorcery isn't cumulative with RoS boost in sorcery, as I don't remember which one I put on first... Btw, having 2 of RoW only yields one boost right? I remembered being unhappy to try out that combo only to find my Vamp Queen not getting double boost.

-Gateway103

Arryn February 29th, 2004 08:15 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
In Dom 2, the RoW boosts all non-holy paths. And, as Zen has repeatedly stated in various threads, duplicate magical path boosters do not add together, and I think the devs consider the RoS and RoW as the same item for that purpose.

February 29th, 2004 08:36 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Hrm. The Ring of Wizardry and Ring of Sorcery stack. As do using two 'different' Staff of Elemental Mastery or a Sword of Many Colors.

PvK February 29th, 2004 08:39 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Ring of Sorcery does improve sorcery even if a Ring of Wizardry is also worn. I just double-checked and they do stack in sorcery paths.

PvK

Arryn February 29th, 2004 08:44 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Cool. I'm happy to be wrong. That'll teach me to repeat what others tell me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Zen, when you tested the staves, did you try it using the Nat? Just curious, since they're 2H.

February 29th, 2004 09:07 PM

Re: Question about path boosters.
 
Yes. They do stack, but not if it's the same brand of Staff of Elemental Mastery. The Sword of Many Colors also stacks with either Staff.


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