So i made a new world map
 

Now how do i get it to illwinter? Compressed it's 20MB so email isn't really an option.

Here's a preview new world map

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Posting an URL will often do it. Sending it to info@ over at the illwinter.com site will also take care of it if they like it.
Doing both, sending an email with an URL address of where they can pick up the file is actually the internet-friendliest method of all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good question. Send the guys at IW an email with the question. Or perhaps you can upload it to Shrapnel (ask them) and they can get it to IW.

I can host it, but I don't have a publically-accessible ftp server for you to upload it to me. And it might take me a bit of time to figure out how to grant you specific access rights to the domain I'm borrowing. I'll look into it. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Comment: your water provinces are too large. You should cut them down to 2/3 or 1/2 their present size, IMO.

[ February 29, 2004, 14:24: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">With respect, that assumes he has a web/ftp site of his own ...

I suspect that he doesn't.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The map is more or less a copy of the existing world map. So the ammount of provinces (and water provinces) is the same give or take one. Cutting them would produce new provinces and that would screw up the .map file and i'm not going to do that anytime soon.

Btw how does the random map generator figure out the neighbouring provinces? Maybe i could utilize that algorithm.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Correct. But only because of utter lazyness. Some might say a comp science student should have one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Ok this attempt failed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Did a google search for free hosting, found one with 60MB unlimited bandwith, signed up, created virtual server, started upload manager....the maximum size per file is 200kB http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You can send it to me if you want. I have provided temp lodging for other peoples files so that Illwinter can pick them up.

Send to gandalf at community net

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">With respect, that assumes he has a web/ftp site of his own ...

I suspect that he doesn't. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am always surprised by that. Most ISPs provide space for at least a simple web page although most Users dont realize it.

But then I dont use ISPs anymore so things might have changed

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Once you have it, I can d/l it and host it for him.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And depending on your ISP and the type of service you have, you may only have 10-20mb of available space. Better ISPs provide about 100mb. Or more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Of course, all this assumes the person 1) knows they even have available space, and 2) has a clue on how to use it ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And depending on your ISP and the type of service you have, you may only have 10-20mb of available space. Better ISPs provide about 100mb. Or more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Of course, all this assumes the person 1) knows they even have available space, and 2) has a clue on how to use it ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">1) costs 9.95€ for 50MB and 5GB transfer/month at my ISP
2) that's the lesser problem of the two

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[quote]Originally posted by Torvak:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Arryn:

Quote:

Of course, all this assumes the person 1) knows they even have available space, and 2) has a clue on how to use it ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">1) costs 9.95€ for 50MB and 5GB transfer/month at my ISP
2) that's the lesser problem of the two </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">1) Just to make sure there's no unfortunate misunderstanding, I wasn't implying that you were clueless. The fact that you went to the effort to find a hosting service ruled that out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

2) 10 euros just for the space, or for the entire account? Just curious. If it's for the account, that's cheap.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, unfortunately it's to add that space (together with some other stuff, like 25 email adresses no one needs) to my existing account.

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You may want to look at ReadyHosting.com if you want a cheaper hosting alternative with much more available space (~500mb). (They host the BL23c.com domain I'm borrowing.) If you decide you want to sign up with them, please let me know in advance so that my BF can get the referral benefit that I think they offer to existing clients.

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Download winrar trial. http://www.rarlab.com/

Install program. Right click the file. Select "add to archive..". Select "Split to volumes, bytes." Type in the max size your e-mail service allows for transfer. Send archive in pieces to Illwinter (might not have winrar though), Gandalf or Arryn.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">An excellent suggestion! And, FYI, I have WinRAR, so I can read what he sends, if he decides to do this. I also have a util to process Mac archives.

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Have winrar, didn't want to do it that way.

Ah well, Arryn here it comes.

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I didnt catch that it was an email size problem. I have had people send me zips and such in pieces for that reason. Then I make it a whole file and give a download link for them to use.

Or if its a need for an ftp account I can do that also

[ February 29, 2004, 16:29: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

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A ftp account would be cool. I already put it on my student account so the upload should be a matter of a minute.

And i promise tomorrow i find out how to setup a webpage on that account http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ February 29, 2004, 16:33: Message edited by: Torvak ]

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I bet it would compress well with lossless PNG. Try doing that, then zipping it.

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It's 49.7MB uncompressed.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You dont really have to have a web page. If its in the directory for a webpage then it can be downloaded.

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It's also been ~1.5 hours since Torvak posted that he sent me an email attachment and I've yet to get it ...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's probably because i never sent it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"Arryn here it comes"

Okay, tease me. Grrr. heh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Just as well. It's probably best if you wait and see if you can u/l to Gandalf so I can grab it from him, or post a temp URL that I can grab it from. It'll be easier than you having to break the file up and then spend however long it takes to email all the pieces ...

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BTW, Torvak, that URL in your sig, "http://www.bl23c.com/files.htm" is no longer valid. I restructured the site's directories yesterday while you weren't looking. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

The correct URL is "http://www.bl23c.com/arryn/files.htm".

[ February 29, 2004, 18:12: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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Ok here we go. Thanks to Gandalf.

Though now that it's out i'm already unhappy with it. Guess i'll make a new Version tomorrow.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Got it. Took 3.5 minutes at Gandalf's 512k bandwidth limit.

However, there appears to be a problem. Internally, the archive says the compressed size is 21.35mb, but the d/l size from Gandalf was only 12.5mb. Please check to make sure the file wasn't truncated.

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Hrmpf. But before you say it. I used binary mode http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Should I just leave the account there and you can put it in www.techno-mage.com in your /public_html/ and it can be downloaded from ~torvak

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I'll upload it again. Not sure what happened.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, I wasn't going to. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt re: "in general having a clue". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I don't think the wrong mode would have truncated the file like that. Well, possibly if it hit the right character combo. But it's likelier to be something else. 12.498mb strikes me as a suspiciously roundish number.

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Hmm filesize in my ftp account there is 21 MB but the file Gandalf copied is 12 MB. Maybe he copied it before i was done uploading. Hmm is that even possible?

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Ok try this.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, just get it, file is incomplete .. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Try again !

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, it is.

I'm downloading now, 20.86mb, be another 11+ minutes. I'm only getting ~17k bandwidth now. Someone else must be banging on Gandalf's box ...

[ February 29, 2004, 19:20: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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well I showed that he wasnt connected when I got it but it did show a "brocken connection" for his login. I just figured he had closed the program window rather than log off as many people do.

[ February 29, 2004, 19:14: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">FWIW, I'm using ReadyHosting and have been quite happy with them.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What's that "rar" extension? (I'm used to the .zip, which can be extracted easily on my Linux system, but this...)

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well dont me wrong, but im not 56k. I will NEVER ever download 20 or even 50 mb for a map. Even the few MBs when dling Targa's map hurted...

Is there any way you can make it smaller, like max. 10 mb ?!

please ^^ the map looks good...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's another archive type. Don't worry. I intend to repackage it as a .zip when I upload it to my site.

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Ok let me zip it. But will take a while uploading through 128kBit/s dsl upstream.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Don't bother. I can do it on my end just fine.

And my DSL is also 128Kb up. (1.5Mb down)

[ February 29, 2004, 19:25: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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[ February 29, 2004, 19:51: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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Nope. Everything still there.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK, thanks. I finally grabbed it.

I've repackaged it as a .zip and am uploading to my site as I type this. It'll be ~30-35 minutes before it's ready (128Kb up is slow). It's too bad it needs to be in .zip format, because the .zip is a full 5Mb larger (26Mb) than the .rar (21Mb) ...

[ February 29, 2004, 19:49: Message edited by: Arryn ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well there is hope. I'm not really satisfied with this map. It looks a little bit too sterile for my taste and has some other quirks.

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I was able to get it at over 60KB/sec.

[ February 29, 2004, 19:55: Message edited by: Demosthenes ]