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Etaoin Shrdlu March 9th, 2004 02:10 AM

Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
How many people out there on Mac OS X successfully installed the 2.0.8 patch the first attempt? I'm clearly missing something... The problem arises with one file that has the same name and extension (dominions2.app) so it ends up trying to replace the main file (not allowed, fortunately). What am I doing wrong? Additionally I see a Unix executable that displays the ever- un-helpful "Nagot Gick Fel" when launched. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif Perhaps I'm trying to go from 2.0.2 straight to 2.0.8 without going through the now-unavailable-on-the-Mac-side-but-still-necessary 2.0.6? Any other possibilities???

Psitticine March 9th, 2004 02:17 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
If I'm not mistaken, you need to allow that main app file to be overwritten. The changed code is compiled into the new main executable.

Johan K March 9th, 2004 11:05 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Here are the instructions.

------- How to patch Dominions for Mac OS X -------

Download patch for Mac OS X. Unzip file, control-click on it, and select "Show Package Contents". Then open up your dominions application in the same manner and replace all the individual files (not entire folders) in the dominions application with their corresponding equivalents from the patch.

Etaoin Shrdlu March 9th, 2004 08:59 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Psitticine:
If I'm not mistaken, you need to allow that main app file to be overwritten. The changed code is compiled into the new main executable.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Made the main app file over-writable, and the same-name file gladly over-wrote it. The same-name file *was* the package... oopsie. Wound up replacing a 199 MB program with a ~4MB object. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Reinstalled. The Unix executable refuses to have anything to do with the main file. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif The other files in the package didn't have equivalents in the 2.02 Version to be replaced, so they came over without a hitch. Next suggestion please?

st.patrik March 9th, 2004 10:19 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
erm, can you just erase the whole thing, re-install from the cd (I assume we're dealing with the full game here), and then patch the right way, i.e. as Johan said? Or is it more complicated than that? I don't know what you're talking about with the 'unix executable' - I'm running OS X 10.2.8 but am not familiar with this.

Psitticine March 9th, 2004 11:55 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Oops . . . sorry 'bout that . . . http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Etaoin Shrdlu March 10th, 2004 08:06 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Johan K:
Here are the instructions.
Download patch for Mac OS X. Unzip file, control-click on it, and select "Show Package Contents". Then open up your dominions application in the same manner and replace all the individual files (not entire folders) in the dominions application with their corresponding equivalents from the patch.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The worst thing about this is it ought to make perfect sense, but in the situation at hand it doesn't exactly apply...

In the package contents screen I see:
MacOS folder with the Unix executable (~3M) and nothing else;
Resources folder with a bunch of things that weren't loaded in from the CD on original install so they don't "replace" anything;
Some subfolders in the Resources folder with more new files (the Orania map for one).
When I launch the Unix thing this happens:


/Users/daniel/Dominions2/dominions2; exit
N?got gick fel!
myloadmalloc: can't open ./guiborder2.tga
N?got gick fel!
myloadmalloc: can't open ./guiborder2.tga
Abort trap
logout
[Process completed]

This a clue for anyone?

Johan K March 10th, 2004 01:09 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Put individual patch files into old application. Now you have to start Dominions2 from the directory it's located in e.g.

$ cd games
$ dominions2.app/Contents/MacOS/dom2 -wd

(wd starts it in a window and with extra debug info)

Otherwise doubleclicking on dominions2 should work too of course.

BTW, we are looking into using iPatch to create the next OSX patch, That should make the process much easier.

[ March 10, 2004, 11:11: Message edited by: Johan K ]

Etaoin Shrdlu March 10th, 2004 09:44 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Johan K:
Put individual patch files into old application. Now you have to start Dominions2 from the directory it's located in e.g.

$ cd games
$ dominions2.app/Contents/MacOS/dom2 -wd

(wd starts it in a window and with extra debug info)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
I assume this refers to the Unix executable (its icon is the dark gray rectangle). Just making sure I'm understanding so the next misadventure is due to something other than me completely missing the point...
Quote:


Otherwise doubleclicking on dominions2 should work too of course.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
See below for what happened... about 2 Posts ago... And what about this 'guiborder.tga' item that it couldn't open? I did a search for it... no sign of it. Should that be happening?
Quote:


BTW, we are looking into using iPatch to create the next OSX patch, That should make the process much easier.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh goody.

Kristoffer O March 11th, 2004 12:18 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Etaoin Shrdlu:
See below for what happened... about 2 Posts ago... And what about this 'guiborder.tga' item that it couldn't open? I did a search for it... no sign of it. Should that be happening?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There should be a guiborder.tga in dominions2.app/Contents/Resources. If there isn't then something has gone bad.

Etaoin Shrdlu March 12th, 2004 06:48 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
[quote]Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Quote:

There should be a guiborder.tga in dominions2.app/Contents/Resources. If there isn't then something has gone bad.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Bingo. DL'd the patch again, inspected the contents... not there. So I'm not going nuts after all... ooooorrrrrr........ am I?
(cue theremin music...)

Johan K March 12th, 2004 12:12 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
I recommend reinstalling from the CD as the files can be found there.

Etaoin Shrdlu March 13th, 2004 10:09 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Johan K:
I recommend reinstalling from the CD as the files can be found there.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Have already reinstalled (after trying Psitti's suggestion in post 2 this thread). Searched the CD for *.tga. Nothing. At least I seem to be asking the right questions (not my strong suit really...). Anyone else running into this problem? I even looked in the demo (on my soon-to-be previous computer) to see if that had it. No luck. I just can't figure where else to look, especially since I don't know what it does...

Johan K March 13th, 2004 12:38 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Are you sure? On my CD the file can be found at dominions2.app/Contents/Resources/guiborder.tga

Etaoin Shrdlu March 13th, 2004 10:06 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Johan K:
Are you sure? On my CD the file can be found at dominions2.app/Contents/Resources/guiborder.tga
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've looked on my CD. That folder isn't there. The item {dominions2.app} is marked as an application, not a folder with the attendant subfolders. (Always a problem looking for something when the place where it was is gone too...) I'm starting to get concerned that something else might be missing...
[cue theremin again]
(Note: If I knew how to include a screen shot of the full contents of the disk, I would be doing so here... just to prove it.)
Update on previous search for .tga files... Changed the search to "ends .tga" and got a whole swarm of other .tga files but none named guiborder. So I must have been looking for it the wrong way the first time. But now I've searched right and still no success. Grrrr....
and yet the below is still true, as a concept...

st.patrik March 14th, 2004 04:55 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
I thought someone had mentioned this earlier, but you need to CONTROL CLICK on the Dom II application and then choose SHOW PACKAGE CONTENTS from the contextual menu. This will open up a whole new folder in which you will find the things you seek.

Etaoin Shrdlu March 15th, 2004 06:09 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by st.patrik:
I thought someone had mentioned this earlier, but you need to CONTROL CLICK on the Dom II application and then choose SHOW PACKAGE CONTENTS from the contextual menu. This will open up a whole new folder in which you will find the things you seek.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">For the result, look two Posts after (above) your previous post in this thread... But if I'm reading Johan's Last post correctly, the guiborder.tga file should have already been there when I installed from the CD the first time. And it wasn't.

Next?? This is getting to be quite a mystery... not that that's a problem, I like the odd mystery now and again...

Johan K March 15th, 2004 11:58 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
If you follow St. Patriks advice on your CD you should actually find the guiborder.tga file. Then reinstall or copy that single file from the CD and you'll have it on your hard drive as well.

st.patrik March 15th, 2004 09:49 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Sorry if you already tried it. I guess what you said here...

Quote:

Originally posted by Etaoin Shrdlu:
I've looked on my CD. That folder isn't there. The item {dominions2.app} is marked as an application, not a folder with the attendant subfolders.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">...made me think that you didn't understand that there can be subfolders within an application (if you control click and choose 'show package contents'). I have a mac and didn't realise this myself for quite a while, so I guess I didn't suppose that you would have known to try this.

Etaoin Shrdlu March 15th, 2004 10:56 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Johan K:
If you follow St. Patriks advice on your CD you should actually find the guiborder.tga file. Then reinstall or copy that single file from the CD and you'll have it on your hard drive as well.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perhaps one of us is asking the wrong question... likely everyone involved is missing the intent of everyone else's statements.
I interpret your statement as: Control-click and show package contents on Dominions2.app on the CD. (beat left here as I do this...) (feel free to re-interpret as was actually intended...)


It isn't a package! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif The dominions2.app patch is a package but without the relevant file when I show package contents on it . I'll say this again: The dominions2.app on my CD _is not a package_. It may should have been but it just isn't. It could be a misprint of the CD but then wouldn't there be other errors? And even if I do get this file by ... other means http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif will there be something else needed and not present?
(At this point something inexplicable happens that voids that whole above paragraph...)(post evolving in real time as I'm Actually Doing Things that are being typed...)(As in: the previous part of the post was on build when what happened next... happened. I type the way I speak, and since I'd already "said" the above, I can't take it back...)
(cue theremin AGAIN)
Wait, hold everything! I accidentally COMMAND-clicked and THEN control-clicked and now I get a package contents prompt! And a guiborder2.tga! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Which the unix executable STILL can't open! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif At least no longer because of its (non-Sudden) Massive Existence Failure...
I don't know what possessed me to try that maneuver... Unfortunately this just means the mystery is a bit deeper... since .tga files are just images ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif Now what am I doing wrong? I have the file that couldn't be opened, and it still can't be opened.
Edit was the third parenthetical in the middle section and a few wording changes

[ March 16, 2004, 01:57: Message edited by: Etaoin Shrdlu ]

Johan K March 16th, 2004 04:51 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
If you delete the dominions app, copy it from the CD again and then run it without applying the patch. Does it work then?

Etaoin Shrdlu March 16th, 2004 09:59 PM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Johan K:
If you delete the dominions app, copy it from the CD again and then run it without applying the patch. Does it work then?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. Installing as 2.02 always succeeds. Then after copying patch items back in... no effect. Also, I don't see the show package contents option until after command-clicking the .app file. (Maybe include that in the explanations?) Interestingly, after running the Unix executable my screen res in-game drops back to 640*480 (which looks bloody awful on this screen)...

BTW on my previous post this thread, I was in fact ready to send off the first half of the message, and on a total fluke hit the events of the second half while considering possible re-wordings.
And what would the Unix executable need the GUI image (the game's GUI image besides) for anyway? Was the fact it was requested causing me to ask the Wrong Question? Judging by what I've run into so far, I've caught so many red herrings I could probably make the purchase price back if I pickled them... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Etaoin Shrdlu March 17th, 2004 12:21 AM

Re: Mac X/ 2.0.8 patch question
 
Just in the past few minutes I was poking around in the package contents (which I hadn't known how to get to until Last night ) and noticed a section marked Resources and saw the patch files and thought "hey, those look like the same kind files...". A few replaced their older Versions, a few were new (army8.trs for one). Still nothing.
Then I noticed where the UNIX executable in the package was hiding.
Replaced it . Computer asked for my password since normally it's write protected.
(beat: crossed fingers...)

BINGO! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Patching successful!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif


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