Ligeia - D2 v2.08 PBEM with RPG elements
 

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A huge fireball appears in the room where you are. As you examine it you can see, you can see that it's a kind of jug. A burning one. Using a chair you break it... There is a letter in it, written to a strange kind of skin. It's short and mysterious:
I great you, God of many names!
Do you know what means to be a god? And do you know how it feels to be imprisoned to a world that newer changes? I'm sure you do. But one of us can be free. Either you... Either me! If one can conquer all, he will be the one and only GOD in the universe... And the ultimate freedom... Can you imagine?
But who will be the one? Let's decide with sword and sorcery! You name the plane of existence where we will fight, and I name the rules.
Those are the following:
- The independents will have strength of five according to the Universal Rule System for Gods.
- The best commanders will gain name in the entire world. 15 of them will be remembered for ever.
- And you may rename the commanders. Remember: Changing their name means power over them.
Farewell,
DarkTears,
God of Invincible Power
God of Mictlan

[ March 13, 2004, 18:49: Message edited by: DarkTears ]

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In the greenest of our valleys,
By good angels tenanted,
Once a fair and stately palace - Snow-white palace - reared its head.
In the monarch Thought's dominion - It stood there!
Never seraph spread a pinion
Over fabric half so fair.

Banners yellow, glorious, golden,
On its roof did float and flow;
(This - all this - was in the olden Time long ago)
And every gentle air that dallied,
In that sweet day,
Along the ramparts plumed and pallid,
A winged odor went away.

Wanderers in that happy valley
Through two luminous windows saw
Spirits moving musically
To a lute's well-tuned law,
Round about a throne, where sitting (Porphyrogene!)
In state his glory well befitting,
The sovereign of the realm was seen.

And all with pearl and ruby glowing
Was the fair palace door,
Through which came flowing, flowing, flowing,
And sparkling evermore,
A troop of Echoes whose sweet duty
Was but to sing,
In voices of surpassing beauty,
The wit and wisdom of their king.

But evil things, in robes of sorrow,
Assailed the monarch's high estate;
(Ah, let us mourn, for never morrow
Shall dawn upon him, desolate!)
And, round about his home, the glory
That blushed and bloomed
Is but a dim-remembered story
Of the old time entombed.

And travellers now within that valley,
Through the red-litten windows, see
Vast forms that move fantastically
To a discordant melody;
While, like a rapid ghastly river,
Through the pale door,
A hideous throng rush out forever,
And laugh
but smile no more.
[Edgar Allan Poe - Fall of the House of Usher]

Would be glad to once again hear the clash of good steel, and see the glint of sun upon fair lands to me held dear. But a place, a time, one does need. If face to face, we'll strike this deed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Edit: Posted a bit too quick the first time.]

[ March 13, 2004, 19:04: Message edited by: Wauthan ]

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Nice poem Wauthan, and quite appropriate Gotta love Edgar Poe, both poems and prose.

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I'm a bit confused. Is this a sign up for a PBEM game? If so, I'd like to join.

My info:
Email: http://home.adelphia.net/~z0dd/email.jpg
Can play: Any time, any # of turn submissions per day.

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Well kind of... z0dd, you are welcome to my next pbem game. In the other hand, I think I will start it only in April (the 1st of April).

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're getting me more confused - I thought you were serious of starting one.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am serious, but there is little interest for PBEM games among the D2 players. That's why I think I will wait, until more players show up.

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I'm another PBEM player who has shown up! I would much rather play by PBEM than Online. I am excited about D2 partly _because_ the PBEM feature looks so good!

So, if anybody is going to start a PBEM game I want to be included!

- Bob
bob@synapse-cs.com

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If it is starting in April (or late next week), I'm certainly interested to play PBEM.
Do you have any more information on what you're planning? (Map, #players,preferred nations etc.)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am serious, but there is little interest for PBEM games among the D2 players. That's why I think I will wait, until more players show up. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is a lot of interest of multiplayer games... It's probably the RPG element that intimidated or confused people http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Anyway, it might be nicer to use a server if one is available. The game run smoother that way.

[ March 15, 2004, 20:04: Message edited by: ywl ]

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I'd be interested in joining a PBEM, RPG elements or not.

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Count me in as Ulm whenever you start!! Dorian_Hawkmoon74 at yahoo dott com . A few questions...
1. Can we bump Indies to 6 ?
2. Is communication outside of the game authorized or are we going to stay "in character" and in game for the entire session?

That's about it...other than that...I am very excited to be a part of this fantastic rpg at a strategic level!!!!!!!

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It looks like we have many interested in a PBEM game, but no leader.

If it comes down to it, I'll "start" it up.

Anyone know of any 3rd party Dom2 game management programs? I was thinking of writing some tools to manage games/servers. It would be a PBEM manger that would allow admins to start PBEM games, and it would also email players when it was their turn. If I do decide to make something like this, I wouldn't hold your breath, as I haven't yet delved into the workings of the game.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm experienced to host one but it'll be more work than I like... It isn't complicated, just getting all the 2h file and sending out the trn files on time. And response when people complain http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Oh.. One thing, everybody needs a password protected god file. The host will be honest but it still runs better this way if every file is protected. For example, the host can mass mailing everybody all the files, instead of sending out different attachment for different player.

Or we could use a 24/7 game server. I think Mose Hansen provides his machine to host game for free. The game will run more smoothly this way, and less hassle for the host.

Bob (Thompson), what is the reason that you don't like Online game? It's the same as an email game, except that you don't need to send out the file manually - provided the server doesn't crash http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Wan (ywl)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds good. Can we nominate you as the organizer of such of game? Someone needs to get this ball rolling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

The constant game server idea seems nice, but don't you have to constantly check to see if the current turn has completed? This is what lead me to (thinking about) making an app that emails everyone when a new turn was ready in a constant server gametype.

One question I have about multiplayer PBEM games. How do you turn a player controlled nation to AI controlled? This is needed to keep the game rolling when a player aborts his nations (which ocurrs far too often). Does the game controller need to know the PWs of all players?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds good. Can we nominate you as the organizer of such of game? Someone needs to get this ball rolling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

The constant game server idea seems nice, but don't you have to constantly check to see if the current turn has completed? This is what lead me to (thinking about) making an app that emails everyone when a new turn was ready in a constant server gametype.

One question I have about multiplayer PBEM games. How do you turn a player controlled nation to AI controlled? This is needed to keep the game rolling when a player aborts his nations (which ocurrs far too often). Does the game controller need to know the PWs of all players? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">For a server game, it might be possible. But for an email game, it will be too much work for me to organize one.

For the questions: in a constant sever game, you usually set up a hosting time. It's the players' responsibility to check it on a regular basis, such as every 24 or 48 hours. If the hosting frequency is not too fast, it's not too much to ask for. Right?

The game controller can ask for the password. Or the player can set himself/herself/itself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif AI before leaving. But AI is never a good substitution of human player unless the nation has already lost and left with only a few provinces.

So, if a player decides to quit before it ends, it'll be a pain for everybody. The best thing will be to get a subsititue. In this aspect, an email game would be better as it's easier to stop the game and wait.

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BTW, djtool is thinking of starting a game on Mose Hansen's server in another thread. We can all join...

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Thanks Ywl.

Link to that game:
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...&f=74&t=001959

What typically happens when the player of a human controlled nation stops submitting turns and simply disappears (doesn't give his PW or set his nation to AI)?

Thanks

[ March 16, 2004, 19:39: Message edited by: z0dd ]

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That game has rather unconventional settings though, and the server is linux based so battle replays are inaccurate for most people.

[ March 16, 2004, 19:05: Message edited by: Teraswaerto ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Also, if the master password is enabled by the host, he can go and change the nation into AI (or change orders, send inappropriate ingame Messages, etc if I've understood it correctly) if he so desires. And everyone trusts the host, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Also, if the master password is enabled by the host, he can go and change the nation into AI (or change orders, send inappropriate ingame Messages, etc if I've understood it correctly) if he so desires. And everyone trusts the host, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If we are playing it on Mose's machine, we can trust him perfectly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . He's not one of the players. He should no reason to cheat.

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Okey. Sorry for being away for two days.
The main reason why I started this topic was the fact, that most D2 games I played where missing in rpg elements. And I mean, I miss the pen and paper rpg feeling. YOU are the pretender, so in a game it would be nice to ACT as a pretender.
PBEM or Mose's machine?
Until I started to play on Mose's greate server I was thinking Pbem is a better way to play a D2 game. Well, I was WRONG. Esben Mose Hansen made the greatest D2 server ever. Thank you!
I think it would be nice to play there.
The map...
I think the best way is to decide with voting. When a player registers to the game by posting here, he/she/it must name the map he thinks best.
So how to sign in? That's how:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Player name: DarkTears
Nation: Caelum
Vote on map: Brittain
</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">GL&HF
Indy strenght 6 is booooring. I think 5 or 7 would be better.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'd be interested - every PBEM needs a sacrificial victim, right? Time to try SP against Indie Strength 5.

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PlayedName: Wildy
Nation: Man
Map: Britain

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Player name: z0dd
Nation: Ermor
Vote on map: Aran

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Player: ywl
Nation: Ulm (hopefully) or Machaka (edit: if both are taken, I can use Tien Chi)
Map : Aran for less than 8 players; Desert Eye for more.

[ March 18, 2004, 17:45: Message edited by: ywl ]

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Player: Cainehill
Nation: #1 Machaka #2 choice Jotun #3 Abyssia
Map: Aran or Desert Eye

(10 days after ordering, still limitted to demo with Shrapnel saying they won't resend my order until it's 4 weeks. *growl*)

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If you are using Mose's (and not PBEM), I wouldn't mind joining as Arco http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

- Kel

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If the game is to be server, I'd be interested in Marignon or Man

Perhaps posting Mose's site url would be helpful?


Rabe the Titleless

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Mose Hansen's greate server: http://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/dom2.pl

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Player : Tricon
Nation: 1.Marignon 2.Pythium 3.Ermor
Map: Since it seems that we get some players together: Desert eye

I can be e-mailed over the forum. PM is OK, too, of course.


One question: How is the roleplaying going to take effect? Speaking in character over ICQ etc.?

[ March 18, 2004, 14:24: Message edited by: Tricon ]

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Roleplaying is via Messages, and thinking yourself in the place of you god. If you control Caelum, and think in "role-play" then you dislike Aby folks. (Angel-Devil, Good-Bad, Ice-Fire) And other things, but that's upon you, I can't force you to "roleplay".