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liga March 23rd, 2004 12:23 PM

Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Hi,

is there a official history of the world of dom2 apart form teh one you can reconstruct reading the single description of the nations and of the units ? It will be, at least for me, a really interesting reading ...

good play
Liga

[ March 23, 2004, 13:44: Message edited by: liga ]

Kristoffer O March 23rd, 2004 06:53 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
There is no official compilation of Dominions history. Most of it is hidden in the darker corners of my mind.

While not impossible to do it would be a rather lengthy manuscript i suspect. It would present some problems with alternate Versions of history (themes such as broken/ashen ermor).

I'm personally fond of hints and allusions. It leaves more to the imagination of individual players.

If there ever was to be a new manual, would you like to have a compilation of dominions history in it?

liga March 23rd, 2004 07:01 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:


I'm personally fond of hints and allusions. It leaves more to the imagination of individual players.

If there ever was to be a new manual, would you like to have a compilation of dominions history in it?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, I like hints and allusion too ... but it would be great a sort of background in a new manual ... not really too much but something about the nations and themes and how we reach the actual situation, a big more deep than the description in the games could really help to get the feeling of the game ...

good play!
Liga

[ March 23, 2004, 17:02: Message edited by: liga ]

jaif March 23rd, 2004 07:06 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Quote:

If there ever was to be a new manual, would you like to have a compilation of dominions history in it?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not I. I'd much rather the time be spent on creating yet more lists, e.g. recuitable units by nation/theme, special & at-start spells for each nation/theme (people who read these Boards know about the tien chi units, but I had no clue when I opened the manual).

One other item; a brief strat guide for each of the nations themes. Picture 3 paragraphs: strengths, weaknesses, and general play advice. Again, this is targetted at someone who opens up the manual and is pretty lost.

-Jeff

Tals March 23rd, 2004 07:10 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Interesting point, always nice reading tid bits about the background to the worlds and maybe a bit more background into the scenarios woul dbe nice.

I'm not sure if the popularity of Dom 2 is such, but I for one would love to see a Strategy guide for Dom 2 which builds on what I believe is a very capable manual.

Tals

Gandalf Parker March 23rd, 2004 07:19 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by jaif:
One other item; a brief strat guide for each of the nations themes. Picture 3 paragraphs: strengths, weaknesses, and general play advice. Again, this is targetted at someone who opens up the manual and is pretty lost.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In that case someone else will need to write it. Im not knocking the abilities of the devs, what they do I think they do great. But I dont think any of them can write something from the view of someone who knows nothing of the game.

What I would like to see is a Version of what we had with Dom1. A newbie starter page for each nation which set god, scales, castle, and gave some hints on why. You can see them HERE near the bottom of the page.

I think there should also be each of those gods already made with the game and the demo, and a game already started with player being.. probably Ulm.

GavinWheeler March 23rd, 2004 07:22 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
If you were to have an Online strategy guide - possibly just one assembled from existing advice posted on websites and here - it wouldn't be too hard to put a little more history and background colour of each nation in the relevant section. Websites are presumably cheaper than glossy manuals.

As Ashen Empire and baseline Ermor would require different strategies, they would have different sections and so could have seperate mini-histories.

En Forcer March 23rd, 2004 09:27 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
There is no official compilation of Dominions history. Most of it is hidden in the darker corners of my mind.

While not impossible to do it would be a rather lengthy manuscript i suspect. It would present some problems with alternate Versions of history (themes such as broken/ashen ermor).

I'm personally fond of hints and allusions. It leaves more to the imagination of individual players.

If there ever was to be a new manual, would you like to have a compilation of dominions history in it?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I for one would really dig some background texture like a compiled history of some sort. To save you printing costs you could make it a pdf file or accessable within the game or some such.

As far as your conflict goes, well that is simply a function of how good of a writer you are now isn't it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Since this is probably fodder for D3, just place current events back WAY in the past and have scholars "disagree" over various interpretations of history thereby allowing you as many themes as you wish for each nation. There are plenty of vehicles for delivering conflicting information to the reader....

Karacan March 23rd, 2004 10:46 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Only speaking for me, I love getting into the 'feel' of a game, and there's no manual I own I didn't read the background descriptions from (with the sole exception of the infamous Dragonfarm, probably the worst game out of Germany since Tamagochis... I won it, and couldn't get rid of it so far).

I like rich backgrounds, I still read through units' descriptions (especially the heroes), and I'd have liked a background story included in the manual.

But I sincerely believe that's something I can wait for until Dom III.

PDF March 23rd, 2004 10:59 PM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
I really think a deeper background and an "official" history would be welcome. Not only it would enhance the feel of the game, but it'll be a basis for numerous scenarios and mods.

Surely it doesn't has to be very detailed, but a "sketchy" history/timeframe with the main events/battles will do.

Gandalf Parker March 24th, 2004 01:58 AM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
I see the player base here as having a real split between the statistician/formula people and the role players. Personally I like storyline stuff but I dont think Id want it in the manual.

Surprisingly after I thought about it abit I think I use the manual mostly because I want to look up a fact or number when Im making a decision and I dont want to move the game aside to look at doc files or Online. But the storyline stuff might work well Online since it could be prettier without making the manual expensive for it

[ March 23, 2004, 23:59: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

jaif March 24th, 2004 02:07 AM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
Let me expand a bit: I have no complaints with the manual in regards for teaching me how to play the game. Between the manual and the between-turn tips, I've gotten a lot of the micromanagement down pat.

My problem, as a stats guy, is that I can't work on a nation/pretender design without turning on the game. I'd like to put in a bit of planning, but there just isn't enough out there.

On a seperate note, you may consider introductory paragraphs to the sections as a way to do some more history. I've seen that done in numerous RPGs (Pen & Paper).

-jeff

DLC March 25th, 2004 11:45 AM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
alternate universes anyone? copy the x-men comics a bit? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

there you have your explanation for the different themes of the nations.

Chazar March 25th, 2004 11:57 AM

Re: Is there a official history of the world of dom 2 ?
 
I support what jaif said:
Quote:

Originally posted by jaif:

a brief strat guide for each of the nations themes. Picture 3 paragraphs: strengths, weaknesses, and general play advice. Again, this is targetted at someone who opens up the manual and is pretty lost.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">...and I dont have a need for a detailed overall history, since I think that is a task that is better be left to map/scenario designers!

Especially due to the allowed modding, D2 is rather a platform for huge variety of possible histories.


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