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JaydedOne April 8th, 2004 08:22 PM

New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
I've started a game on Mosehansen for the Orania War scenario. Prefer 12 to 17 players. Will wait one hour after I see that we've got player #12 and then start. Taken races include Man, Jotunheim, and R'lyeh. Go check it out if interested.

[ April 08, 2004, 19:45: Message edited by: Miguel Duran ]

Cohen April 8th, 2004 08:28 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
I'd like to play with Marignon.
But it seems Mosehansen has only 2 slots for games, and only 1 free.

Tell me when and how to join.

COhen

archaeolept April 8th, 2004 08:40 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
register an account in the new mosehansen pages, then connect to the ip/port and pick a nation.

just don't pick my nation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
(the jots)

oh, btw, please notice that the evil R'lyeh is in the game. everyone must destroy them.

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[ April 08, 2004, 19:41: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

JaydedOne April 8th, 2004 08:43 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Cohenn, is that you as Marignon? If not, go to https://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/dom2beta.pl and find the Sweetback game there. Marignon is taken by somebody else if that isn't you.

Take care!

JaydedOne April 8th, 2004 08:44 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:


oh, btw, please notice that the evil R'lyeh is in the game. everyone must destroy them.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Aw man. Why you gotta be that way? Squids need love too. Squids need love too.

(Miguel, playing R'lyeh)

AhhhFresh April 8th, 2004 11:01 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:
oh, btw, please notice that the evil R'lyeh is in the game. everyone must destroy them.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I know you're mostly joking, but is that actually how people feel?

I play R'lyeh pretty exclusively atm, and I'm starting to feel that they're now ranked #2 after Ermor in the least popular neighbor competition...

Is this about the lobotomies?

I hope you know that the procedure is completely voluntary*... and we have a 100% satisfaction rate! Not a single registered complaint to date!

Really, this whole "free will" mumbo jumbo is totally overrated... seek the bliss of ignorance that becoming a certified moron brings!

* Other options include, but are not limited to: painful death, really painful death, and really really painful death

archaeolept April 8th, 2004 11:15 PM

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oh, it was mostly just a good-natured dig at miguel.

it is kinda true though...

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JaydedOne April 8th, 2004 11:40 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Frankly, yeah, I'd kill R'lyeh early too in a multiplayer game -- if I had the option, which most folks don't.

The reason people resent the hell out of R'lyeh? Two things -- underwater race and paralyze. The illithid are gross with paralyze (although not nearly as much as they once were, thanks to the bug fix) and the fact that they get time to sit around and build underwater doesn't help the love. Top that off with their natural ability to sit around and clam hoard (which I don't see as a problem -- but DON'T be hijacking my thread on that score) and, well, you've got a hated race.

Now, granted, they don't have a few things that -really- chafe like a default death domain, miasma, or heat/cold envirospread. But they're plenty obnoxious all the same.

I just play them because I'm a huge Lovecraft fan. Well, that and I appreciate a little turtling at the beginning of a game (my recent activity in TenToTango notwithstanding...)

AhhhFresh April 8th, 2004 11:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:
oh, it was mostly just a good-natured dig at miguel.

it is kinda true though...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I know, I'm just a little paranoid because of the "BigGame" (where I'm playing R'lyeh)... since I was being uber nice, but have been attacked by everybody who can get their troops there... just trying to see whether that's gonna be a common thing when I play R'lyeh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Regardless, I'm in as Abysia... let's see how this newly modified "Blood of Humans" thing works out... hopefully, the devs were too nice with their "love stick" and now I am unstoppable simply because I picked them... unfortunately my incompetance will likely negate any "over-love" effect... but we'll see.

[ April 08, 2004, 22:49: Message edited by: AhhhFresh ]

JaydedOne April 8th, 2004 11:52 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Hey, strangely enough, I'm in BigGame as Abysia. I'm the guy whose borders you just brushed up against.

And yeah, the one downside about R'lyeh is that they can only produce their best units underwater. It overextends them something fierce. In a map like Zen's Europe, it's cool. And it tones down a bit once you get Gateway, but otherwise it can be a bit rough.

JaydedOne April 8th, 2004 11:54 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Hey, strangely enough, I'm in BigGame as Abysia. I'm the guy whose borders you just brushed up against.

And yeah, the one downside about R'lyeh is that they can only produce their best units underwater. It overextends them something fierce. In a map like Zen's Europe, it's cool. And it tones down a bit once you get Gateway, but otherwise it can be a bit rough.

AhhhFresh April 9th, 2004 12:06 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Miguel Duran:
Frankly, yeah, I'd kill R'lyeh early too in a multiplayer game -- if I had the option, which most folks don't.

The reason people resent the hell out of R'lyeh? Two things -- underwater race and paralyze. The illithid are gross with paralyze (although not nearly as much as they once were, thanks to the bug fix) and the fact that they get time to sit around and build underwater doesn't help the love. Top that off with their natural ability to sit around and clam hoard (which I don't see as a problem -- but DON'T be hijacking my thread on that score) and, well, you've got a hated race.

Now, granted, they don't have a few things that -really- chafe like a default death domain, miasma, or heat/cold envirospread. But they're plenty obnoxious all the same.

I just play them because I'm a huge Lovecraft fan. Well, that and I appreciate a little turtling at the beginning of a game (my recent activity in TenToTango notwithstanding...)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ah, the Mind BLast.

Have you tested Star Children since 2.11? They are less effective since the patch. Not debilitated, but less effective... Joe Commander can get them because the Paralyze isn't *permanent*.

Otherwise, I haven't found that the change... errr, correction has really effected them that much. Battles tend to be over before it really matters.

[ April 08, 2004, 23:08: Message edited by: AhhhFresh ]

Cainehill April 9th, 2004 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
I know, I'm just a little paranoid because of the "BigGame" (where I'm playing R'lyeh)... since I was being uber nice, but have been attacked by everybody who can get their troops there... just trying to see whether that's gonna be a common thing when I play R'lyeh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ]
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That was me, who attacked you early. Frankly, I didn't see where I had a choice - bad enough that R'lyeh's capitol was only one province away from my own, but when you took the land province next to my capitol instead of staying in the water....

Stormbinder April 9th, 2004 12:28 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Greetings to all players of this game.

I am in as Pythium.

BTW IMHO magic 60 maybe a little too much for MP - such settings mean for example that about 50% of all mountains contain 4 magic sites each.

Well, at least we don't have Ermor, not yet anyway. I am so tired of anti-undead global crusades on orania map. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

AhhhFresh April 9th, 2004 12:37 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cainehill:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
I know, I'm just a little paranoid because of the "BigGame" (where I'm playing R'lyeh)... since I was being uber nice, but have been attacked by everybody who can get their troops there... just trying to see whether that's gonna be a common thing when I play R'lyeh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ]

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That was me, who attacked you early. Frankly, I didn't see where I had a choice - bad enough that R'lyeh's capitol was only one province away from my own, but when you took the land province next to my capitol instead of staying in the water.... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, at the time, my scouting was bad... BUT...

C'mon Cainehill... I can tell you that you are an experienced player.... you should know that R'lyeh is much better on land than on the sea... if you don't believe/get that, try it for yourself.

Oh, and the Void Lord is the #1Best SC there is. Nobody compares... it's actually kinda funny to see them try.

JaydedOne April 9th, 2004 12:44 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
C'mon Cainehill... I can tell you that you are an experienced player.... you should know that R'lyeh is much better on land than on the sea... if you don't believe/get that, try it for yourself.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Erm, better? When they're unable to build forts that bring forth their best units? I didn't realize that hybrids were so fantastic...

I mean, I'm sure that you're tired of getting pounded on by tritons, but there's -no- doubt that they're much better in the water where they get their crab hybrids and illithids, as well as the full extent of their water spells.

Maybe I'm wrong. I can admit that. But why do you feel so strongly about something that seems pretty much in contrast to my own experience? ;-)

wolfkinsov April 9th, 2004 12:52 AM

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Ok I just took Acro, much better with Man and Marigon but what the heck try something a little different. Mostly played PBM do I just keep checking the server until the game is started?

JaydedOne April 9th, 2004 12:55 AM

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I'll send a post out here once we start. At this rate, it should be by sometime tomorrow.

Somebody should let poor Cohenn know he's got a game he can join. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

archaeolept April 9th, 2004 01:05 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
how many players are you aiming for miguel? I prefer a bit of space, but maybe you'ld rather have the full complement?

AhhhFresh April 9th, 2004 01:10 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Miguel Duran:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
C'mon Cainehill... I can tell you that you are an experienced player.... you should know that R'lyeh is much better on land than on the sea... if you don't believe/get that, try it for yourself.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Erm, better? When they're unable to build forts that bring forth their best units? I didn't realize that hybrids were so fantastic...

I mean, I'm sure that you're tired of getting pounded on by tritons, but there's -no- doubt that they're much better in the water where they get their crab hybrids and illithids, as well as the full extent of their water spells.

Maybe I'm wrong. I can admit that. But why do you feel so strongly about something that seems pretty much in contrast to my own experience? ;-)
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Mainly it is because of Tritons, which the R'lyeh have no easy answer to... but basically, it works like this: 99% of land provinces have land based units (suprise!). That is great for R'lyeh, since the slower the oponent is, the more likely he is to be paralyzed by the time your land units face him...

Cavalry can be slightly tough, but not really a big deal.

Try Triton Shark Knights. Who wins? All of a sudden, those indie provinces with knights seem like complete "cake"... and they are.

JaydedOne April 9th, 2004 02:17 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:
how many players are you aiming for miguel? I prefer a bit of space, but maybe you'ld rather have the full complement?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nah. I'm shooting for 12. Basically, I start game within an hour of getting the 12th player. If we get up to 14 or whatever in that time, fine. Otherwise, we go with what we've got.

JaydedOne April 9th, 2004 02:21 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
Mainly it is because of Tritons, which the R'lyeh have no easy answer to... but basically, it works like this: 99% of land provinces have land based units (suprise!). That is great for R'lyeh, since the slower the oponent is, the more likely he is to be paralyzed by the time your land units face him...

Cavalry can be slightly tough, but not really a big deal.

Try Triton Shark Knights. Who wins? All of a sudden, those indie provinces with knights seem like complete "cake"... and they are.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">*shrug* I'm never all that scared by Tritons to be honest. Placing a big enough contingent of Lobos around your illithid makes it hard for the tritons to get to the center.

Frankly, going to land too early imo puts R'lyeh at a huge disadvantage as it's overextended against a number of foes that want to see it dead, dead, dead. Reinforcements take too long coming unless your capital is right next to that part of the landmass, in which case you've got another set of problems. I tend to find that it's better to consolidate the water, eliminate Atlantis if necessary, Voice of Tiamat/Akashic Record out ALL the gems in the ocean and then wait and build. Don't come to land before you need to.

But others might put more stock in the zergling rush. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cohen April 9th, 2004 07:59 AM

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no it's me Marignon ^^ I took it when it was empty.

archaeolept April 9th, 2004 04:12 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
ok, we've had 9 registered since Last night.

c'mon, someone else jump in

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AhhhFresh April 9th, 2004 04:40 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Miguel Duran:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
Mainly it is because of Tritons, which the R'lyeh have no easy answer to... but basically, it works like this: 99% of land provinces have land based units (suprise!). That is great for R'lyeh, since the slower the oponent is, the more likely he is to be paralyzed by the time your land units face him...

Cavalry can be slightly tough, but not really a big deal.

Try Triton Shark Knights. Who wins? All of a sudden, those indie provinces with knights seem like complete "cake"... and they are.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">*shrug* I'm never all that scared by Tritons to be honest. Placing a big enough contingent of Lobos around your illithid makes it hard for the tritons to get to the center.

Frankly, going to land too early imo puts R'lyeh at a huge disadvantage as it's overextended against a number of foes that want to see it dead, dead, dead. Reinforcements take too long coming unless your capital is right next to that part of the landmass, in which case you've got another set of problems. I tend to find that it's better to consolidate the water, eliminate Atlantis if necessary, Voice of Tiamat/Akashic Record out ALL the gems in the ocean and then wait and build. Don't come to land before you need to.

But others might put more stock in the zergling rush. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I'm no expert... that's for sure! I think it's just playstlye differences... but my feeling is that it takes the land guys quite a while before they're ready to go underwater, so you can wait before you take those. I'd rather get my foothold on land ASAP, as that's where the richest provinces and best independent mages are. And the Starspawn need money to really get rolling...

Illithids can only be recruited underwater, that's true... but that's what Gateway is for.

I have yet to play an MP game with Atlantis in it though, so I'm not sure how that would affect things...

Cainehill April 9th, 2004 05:17 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:
ok, we've had 9 registered since Last night.

c'mon, someone else jump in

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There's 11 now.

JaydedOne April 9th, 2004 05:19 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
11's good enough for me. I'm starting game at 1:00 PM EST with whatever we have at that point.

Good hunting.

archaeolept April 9th, 2004 06:09 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
and the flag is dropped!

who will be Last to complete their turn?

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JaydedOne April 9th, 2004 06:12 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
All right -- game is started.

wolfkinsov April 9th, 2004 07:21 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
question has anyone played an Online game from two different computers before. Is there anything special I have to do. Reason is I can play from work computer but can't watch battle, so on bigger turns I have to play from my home computer.

archaeolept April 9th, 2004 08:18 PM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
I've had no problem doing that, although I haven't yet tried w/ patch 2.11

Cainehill April 10th, 2004 01:51 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Cainehill:
That was me, who attacked you early. Frankly, I didn't see where I had a choice - bad enough that R'lyeh's capitol was only one province away from my own, but when you took the land province next to my capitol instead of staying in the water....

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">C'mon Cainehill... I can tell you that you are an experienced player.... you should know that R'lyeh is much better on land than on the sea... if you don't believe/get that, try it for yourself.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, I'm at best an intermediate player - two months or so playing, most of that with the demo. All I knew was that many people have expressed opinions that R'lyeh was one of the high-powered (if not over-powered) nations, and here it was, coming up out of the water at me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Given my total lack of experience with R'lyeh, an aggressive response seemed appropriate.

Stormbinder April 11th, 2004 11:30 AM

Re: New Orania War Scenario game on Mosehansen
 
Not much traffic here since the game start. Are we going to use this thread for our communication, AARs, dimplomacy, etc. , or are we going to start another one?

If we are going to continue using this one, than how about we all introduce ourself for starters?

I'll begin with compiling whatever info available from this thread, feel free to correct it if it is wrong, and add your nations as well if it is not here.

Races are in the order they were mentioned:

1.R'leh (Miguel)
2.Abyssia (AhhhFresh)
3.Pythium (me)
4.Arco(Wolfkinsov)
5.Magignon (Cohen)

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6. ??? Ermor (Catquiet) - it's my guess sunce he hasn't posted here yet, but his Ermor's VQ pretender looks strangely familiar... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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And this all that is known so far.

[ April 11, 2004, 10:32: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]


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