MP Game - Orania Semiblitz
 

This is the official thread for the new Mosehansen (see www.mosehansen.dk) game Orania Semiblitz. Please announce your nation here before uploading a pretender. There are house rules, so please don't join unless you are willing to abide by them.

1. The game will not start until all nations are filled.

2. The Vampire Queen may not be chosen except by the player (if any) of Black Forest Ulm.

3. All nations are limited in the number of clams they may forge. The limit is half of the current turn number. For example, a nation with 11 clams on turn 26 may forge up to 2 more clams that turn. Clams found on the battlefield may be kept (but no more forged) in excess of this limit.

4. If a nation stales for 2 turns in a row, I will arrange for that nation to be moved to AI. I'll try to find a non-player to do this, to avoid viewing the position myself. Note that the game has a 18-hour turnaround, with quickhost.

5. The non-default settings are:

a) 50 total VPs, 25 to win. Capitals are worth 2 VPs (I hope - I've never messed with VPs before).

b) Difficult research
c) Independent strength 6
d) Magic site frequency 50
e) Hall of Fame entries 15
f) Map Orania (of course)

[ June 01, 2004, 16:50: Message edited by: Zen ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Which is the nation that I'll be playing.

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I think 12 hour quickhost will make for problems, especially if you want a full game. It's nice for getting the game off to a quicker start, but eventually people are going to be away from their computers for more than 12 hours - weekends, long work days, etc.

And the 12 QH means that you can't count on buying yourself some time by being the first person to take their turn. Even if you take your turn while there's 11 hours 55 minutes to go, thus figuring you have almost 24 hours before the next turn, murphy's law says that everyone will then take their turn in the first hour, and in 13 hours (rather than 24) you get a stale turn.

That said, I'll probably be in, just to watch the R'lyeh / Atlantis hatefest that Orania forces in 17 player games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Just gotta deicide if I want Vanheim, Man, Pangaea, Machaka, Arco, or if masochistic, T'ien C'hi.

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I'll Play with Abysya

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're probably right about that. So I'll reserve the right to modify the turnaround time, if possible, after we get into the game.

EDIT: On a whim, I've modified the turnaround time to 18 hours with quickhost, because I think the QH will mostly satisfy our need for speed at the very start, and I'm concerned I may not be able to extend it later.

EDIT: Although I set total VPs=50 and extra capital VPs ON, the page displays blank in the total VPs field and capital VPs=1. I don't know what this means, but we may be playing to victory conditions that were not intended :-( .

[ May 03, 2004, 04:42: Message edited by: Zapmeister ]

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Ill take Ermor.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So let me see if I understand this: You can forge as many clams as you wish, as long as the number of clams in your possession is less than half the current turn number, after which you may not forge clams until the number of clams in your possession is again below the half the turn number. Is that correct? Do we round up or down?

If that's correct, count me in for Van.

[ May 03, 2004, 05:53: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is correct. Round down.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But I think my wording, with the example, was clearer. The point being that the number of clams in your possession after forging must be less than or equal to half the current turn number.

[ May 03, 2004, 06:34: Message edited by: Zapmeister ]

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I have R'lyeh

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I'll take Man

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I'll take Pangaea - the forests are mine!

(And the lakes, the rivers, the mountains, the desert wastelands. But take all the farmland and plains you desire.)

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I could be interested in joining, impersonnating the "please not bash me too painfully" beginner...

But I cant even figure how to join on the game from the server web page http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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I will take atlantis, if it is open. thanks

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OUPS,

I know some people around there are going to kill me for what I mistakenly done...

I guess I wrongly started the game by mistake http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Please dont hit me too hard it was really unintentional...

[ May 03, 2004, 18:54: Message edited by: IKerensky ]

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Accidentally hit Start Game instead of disconnect, eh?

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Well it was my first attempt at joining a network game so ... yes I made the wrong choice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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OK, I'll stop the game and create a new one under the name "Orania_Fast".

EDIT: OK, the game has been re-created under the new name. Please upload your pretender again. Note the new port number.

IKerensky: Don't worry about it. We all do something like this at some time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ May 03, 2004, 23:33: Message edited by: Zapmeister ]

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If the game hasn't filled up by the time I get off work today (9 hours from now) I'll take Jotunheim.

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An anonymous person has uploaded a pretender for Ulm. I assume that it's not Graeme, who claimed Ulm here, nor any person that reads this thread.

I don't think it would be fair to sanction gazumping the position, since reading this thread is not a requirement for playing the game.

My sympathy goes to Graeme, however, who I'm sure would have made the point about VQs with convincing force. Maybe this anonymous guy will too.

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A pity, really. I was hoping I'd get the opportunity to give Graeme a firm drubbing despite his VQ, thus demonstrating the invalidity of his claims.

I would, however, firmly suggest that you go ahead and sanction the gazumping if the offending player does not identify himself. Anonymous, nameless players that post nothing in response to the game invariably are the same people who will AWOL.

[ May 04, 2004, 03:25: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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I would like to claim T'ien C'hi

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That may be true. But the fact remains that the player may not read this board at all, reading this board is not a requirement, and the mosehansen site clearly forbids gazumping.

Although I would like to do this, for the same reasons as you, I don't think we have the right.

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I now notice that my intended position has also been filled by an anonymous player, who might actually be me, and that I've simply forgotten that I uploaded, and was interrupted by someone before I could confess on the webpage.

But I'm not sure. Should I just overwrite what could possibly be me, and flag the slot, or what?

Who are these random anonymous people anyway?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That concern is certainly valid. On the other hand, it is your game. If anyone's going to have to make the decision, it's you.

Like I said, up to you: Do we just move back into the slots we already claimed beforehand, and possibly risk booting out an anonymous player who stumbled into the game from the webpage (and then didn't bother to actually declare his slot, despite the fact that he was ON the webpage to do so), or would you rather keep the unidentified players instead?

The matter gets more complicated when the unidentified Vanheim player may or may not actually be me.

Up to you: Would you rather go with players who are known and have declared a commitment to play, or a nameless player who has squatted on the slot, who may or may not be committed to playing?

[ May 04, 2004, 03:36: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The onus is on you to recall your own actions. If you are in doubt, then I think you should wait until the game starts, and play the position only if your password works.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What's the problem? I uploaded my pretender, but hadn't yet clicked on the selection on the webpage.

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Do we have any idea when this one will start?
Are you really going to wait for 17 players?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You do realize Norfleet, that I've never tried to play optimally in any of my games against you, and that BF Ulm doesn't have the free points to make a truly fearsome VQ. If I wanted to make everybody but Ermor really suffer, then I'd pick Miasma C'Tis, not Ulm.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. The Last 2 games I've started with this condition took about 48 hours to fill. This one may take a little longer because fewer people can play at 18 hours per turn.

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I'll have Pangaea uploaded sometime tomorrow (er, today) - I'm working on my new theories for rainbow medusas and astral carrion dragons. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Ok I will play Jotunheim so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Trying not to botch anything this time, will upload in a few hours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif stay tuned

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Well, I see someone _ELSE_ decided to start the game early.

It'd be so nice if Illwinter would do something to correct the interface to eliminate this recurring idiocy.

[ May 04, 2004, 14:11: Message edited by: Cainehill ]

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Well that wasn't me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

But I got a problem when I try to play the Jotun turn in the game I keep crashing to desktop without seeing the map. Any idea why ?

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I see people have taken turns, are we starting? Or is another game going to be created?

Vig

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Well, this could get tedious. The game has been re-created (again) this time as "Orania_Quick". I'm running out of similar titles, guys, so please be careful !!

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ok I joined as Jotunheim... even if I'd rather take Atlantis , but is was already taken in the previous game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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You can have atlantis Kerensky, I'm in too many games right now as is. I'm out.

Rabe (who needs a Towel?)

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Well I already logged once as jotunheim... anyway for me to take it back ?

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Declare Jotunheim open.

It may be claimed (overwritten) only by someone who Posts in this thread FIRST, etc.

Rabe the Reorganizer

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Well I declare it open ... anyway I can do this in game too ?

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You can check "That's not me!" on the server, so you'll no longer be claiming that slot, so others can claim it, and then claim your new Atlantis slot.

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i'd like to join as Machaka, but i can't find the ip adress to join, only the port #.

odd_enuf

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Just use www.mosehansen.dk as the IP address.

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got it, in as machaka

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I'm giving my Van slot to Haterider and moving over to Arco.

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EDIT: Nevermind.

[ May 07, 2004, 03:24: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

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I'll take Pythium.

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one question, what is the random event freq set at? didn't see that anywhere in this thread.

odd_enuf

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Common

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I'll take the Pangaea. I must like being beaten :-D