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Norfleet May 24th, 2004 10:57 PM

MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED
 
Due to the rampant hijacking and derailing of the other thread, I'm not going to deign to respond to it and am going to let it die and sink back into the abyss where it came from.

Due to various reasons which shall not be restated, it has been decided to restart the game.

Sign-in will, once again, proceed on kludgemush.com 10629. Please call your nation here as well, as some of you may have elected not to reattend: Consider this a fresh game.

I will (still) be playing Caelum.

For the record, ONCE AGAIN, for anyone who MAY have any bizarre objections to this, I *HAVE* modified the .map file, attempting to #nostart any and all provinces with fewer than 4 neighbors which would render them particularly awful as starting positions. That is the ONLY modification. If there are any people who wish to INSPECT this, I can make the .map file itself available for downloading if somebody wishes to provide a site to put it on.

Are we clear on this point?

If there any OTHER such problems that occur which impede the start of the game, I will just cancel the game: My patience for this nonsense is rapidly reaching its end. If there are any other objections, voice them now, and do not join the game.

[ June 10, 2004, 22:29: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

Reverend Zombie May 24th, 2004 11:56 PM

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Marignon, please.

vigabrand May 25th, 2004 12:10 AM

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Jotunheim

Vig

Yvelina May 25th, 2004 01:01 AM

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I would like to have Ulm. I had them in the Last game as well. Too bad that I will probably not have Australia all to myself this time. I was so happy about it. Do we really have to kill the game - we could just keep both going in parallel, couldn't we?

Argitoth May 25th, 2004 01:16 AM

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I CLAIM THINE VICTORY WITH C'TIS


Edit: What is the magic site frequency? I'd love it to be 55% so I can use my "ULTIMO GREEN MIGHT" strategy

[ May 25, 2004, 00:19: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

Norfleet May 25th, 2004 01:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Argitoth:
Edit: What is the magic site frequency? I'd love it to be 55% so I can use my "ULTIMO GREEN MIGHT" strategy
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's still 50. I fail to see how a change of 5% makes any difference whatsoever.

Cohen May 25th, 2004 02:07 AM

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Abysya

Firebreath May 25th, 2004 04:33 AM

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Arcosephale

[ May 25, 2004, 03:38: Message edited by: Firebreath ]

Vynd May 25th, 2004 04:36 AM

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I will take Pangaea again.

Tuidjy May 25th, 2004 04:42 AM

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Vanheim.

Stormbinder May 25th, 2004 05:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Due to the rampant hijacking and derailing of the other thread, I'm not going to deign to respond to it
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Damn my eyes. You surely fooled me there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Norfleet May 25th, 2004 05:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
Damn my eyes. You surely fooled me there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You will notice that I have, in fact, ignored the hijacked thread. Please keep your comments there and stay out of my game.

[ May 25, 2004, 04:58: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

Stormbinder May 25th, 2004 08:29 AM

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Deleted by Zen - Don't make him do it again.

[ May 26, 2004, 04:06: Message edited by: Zen ]

WraithLord May 25th, 2004 11:32 AM

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I will take Mictlan.

Norfleet May 26th, 2004 05:38 AM

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Victim list:

Caelum: Me.
Mictlan: izaqyos
Vanheim: Tuidjy
Ulm: Yvelina
C'tis: Argitoth
Arco: Firebreath
Mary: Zombie
Jot: Vigabrand
Aby: Cohen
Pan: Vynd

Well, we have 10 victims returning. Let's see we can't get some others.

Stormbinder May 26th, 2004 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Stormbinder:
Damn my eyes. You surely fooled me there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You will notice that I have, in fact, ignored the hijacked thread. Please keep your comments there and stay out of my game. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No problem. Please stay out of Zapmeister's game thread than, he made it clear that you are bared from it.

[ May 26, 2004, 07:48: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Firebreath May 26th, 2004 02:16 PM

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Stormbinder, why don't you show everybody how much better you are than Norfleet by not doing what you accuse him of doing?

It gives off a very bad impression...

If you dislike him so much, why don't you join this game and meet him in battle? Even if somehow you don't manage to beat him, you can still frustrate his plans.

Stormbinder May 26th, 2004 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Firebreath:


If you dislike him so much, why don't you join this game and meet him in battle? Even if somehow you don't manage to beat him, you can still frustrate his plans.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've played with him several times before and I have no intention of playing with him again, if I can help it. As it was mentioned many times by many different people who played with norfleet in the past (including myself of course), norfleet's only strategy is cheesy, abusing, and requires little skills to implement, while making gameplay extremely boring for everybody involved. Especially with the settings such as in this game of his that were tailored-made to benefit this very strategy. (massive clam hoarding + uber-VQ + insane castling)


As you know I've baned Norfleet's from my future games for his cheating in our Last game. Zapmeister did the same, other people may follow. You can't be serious in suggesting that I would play in norf's game now, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


Anyway, this whole mess is already a history. I said that I will not post here, and as you can see the point of my Last post, to which you replied with your question and suggestion, was to stop norfleet's and mine arguments and communications here and on the other thread. If you have any future questions to me I will be glad to answer them in privite emails. But please drop this topic here, I don't want to continue the discussion of this ugly mess on this board. I've already done what I wanted to do (making people aware of the certain facts in our Last game, so they could avoid repeating these mistakes if they choose to). To continue this discussion is counter-productive, as well as against forum's rules, as Zen's stated here and elsewhere.

[ May 26, 2004, 20:07: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

archaeolept May 27th, 2004 03:32 PM

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sorry to add this in, but
Quote:

norfleet's only strategy is cheesy, abusing, and requires little skills to implement
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">. It is cheesy and abusive, but to do well it definitely requires expert skills. Otherwise, you just have some second-rate Norfleet wannabe.

Cainehill May 27th, 2004 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:
sorry to add this in, but </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">norfleet's only strategy is cheesy, abusing, and requires little skills to implement
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">. It is cheesy and abusive, but to do well it definitely requires expert skills. Otherwise, you just have some second-rate Norfleet wannabe. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Also, I'm curious about Stormbinder's constant use of the word "abusive". Norfleet isn't leaving bruises on children, women, small animals. He isn't verbally abusing his PD or troops, to the best of my knowledge.

He isn't taking advantage of any "exploits" in the game. (For instance, selecting multiple units in a province and making them all into Prophets, or sending multiple units to the Death Games - which used to be possible; doing so on purpose would be abusive use of a bug / exploit.)

His tactic may be cheesy or cheap; it certainly isn't any fun to play against.

But frankly, the most abusive thing I'm seeing is Stormbinder's constant badgering of Norfleet, constant personal insults, and constant misuse of the term "abusive".

vigabrand May 27th, 2004 04:34 PM

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Anyone got a link where I could go read about this cheesy, "abusive", little skill using strategy? I keep hearing about it, but I don't know the real details. Just curious. Same with the VQ. As you can see, I'm sort of new around here.

Vig

Vynd May 27th, 2004 08:31 PM

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Can we please limit Posts in this thread to those discussing the actual "Play the World" game, and not Norfleet? Thanks.

Stormbinder May 28th, 2004 12:19 AM

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[quote]Originally posted by Cainehill:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by archaeolept:
[qb] sorry to add this in, but
Quote:

norfleet's only strategy is cheesy, abusing, and requires little skills to implement
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">. It is cheesy and abusive, but to do well it definitely requires expert skills. Otherwise, you just have some second-rate Norfleet wannabe.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
Quote:

Also, I'm curious about Stormbinder's constant use of the word "abusive".
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I guess you'll have to continue to be curious. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif In case you didn't get any of the earlier hints, this thread is not for the discussion of norfleet or stormbinder. I am afraid you'll have to go and preach for your hero elsewhere. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ May 27, 2004, 23:21: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Reverend Zombie May 28th, 2004 05:24 PM

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An on-topic question:

any ETA on when this is going to start?

Norfleet May 28th, 2004 06:56 PM

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As of right now, we have 10 confirmed returning victims, but Firebreath(Arco) does not appear to have uploaded yet. While we're slightly on the thin side, if there's no other interest expressed in (re)joining, we can start as soon as he's in.

Firebreath May 29th, 2004 11:29 AM

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Sorry for the delay...I've been waiting for things to start for so long that I forgot to check http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I'm going away this evening for 2 days, so it's probably best that you start without me.

Norfleet May 29th, 2004 08:51 PM

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That's okay, we can wait two days. Gives us more time to possibly get more victims. 9 is a little too thin for the World map.

Firebreath May 29th, 2004 10:27 PM

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That's up to you, though I'll be away next week as well (for about 4 days...)

So if you want to wait, that's nice. If not, that's fine too.

Vynd May 30th, 2004 04:31 AM

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I suspect that Firebreath is just one of many people in this game who are away or busy over the U.S. holiday weekend.

Norfleet May 30th, 2004 09:19 PM

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Victim list:

Caelum: Me.
Mictlan: izaqyos
Vanheim: Tuidjy
Ulm: Yvelina
C'tis: Argitoth
Arco: (Firebreath)
Mary: Zombie
Jot: Vigabrand
Aby: Cohen
Pan: Vynd
R'lyeh: Xodan (DomX)

Well, we have about 10 or 11 people. This is slightly on the thin side for the World Map.

Depending on whether Firebreath would like to join, and perhaps find somebody to fill in for him while he's away, or abstain, we can maybe start Real Soon Now(tm). Is everyone ready for the gruelfest that this slightly underpopulated map is going to produce? Or shall we hold for more victims and hope that our existing victims don't lose interest?

Vynd May 31st, 2004 04:13 AM

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I am indifferent as to whether or not we start Real Soon Now. More players would be nice but if other people want to play now that's fine. One thing I am thinking though is that with the thread titled "Play the World Restart" we may not be getting much attention from people looking to join a new game. So if we're going to wait for more, perhaps we should advertise?

Norfleet May 31st, 2004 04:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Vynd:
One thing I am thinking though is that with the thread titled "Play the World Restart" we may not be getting much attention from people looking to join a new game.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Better?

Vynd June 2nd, 2004 03:07 PM

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Hmm, I dunno. Has anyone else asked to join? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Vynd June 2nd, 2004 03:08 PM

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Hmm, I dunno. Has anyone else asked to join? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Maltrease June 2nd, 2004 04:24 PM

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The new name has enticed me to join. I will take Pythium.

Daynarr June 2nd, 2004 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Better?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, this thread finally got my attention. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

What are game rules/settings? All I see is 50% magic site frequency.

[ June 02, 2004, 15:30: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

Tuskerlove June 2nd, 2004 04:52 PM

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If you don't mind a novice trying his hand ~ I'd be willing to play - Ermor would be fine if it is still available.

Norfleet June 2nd, 2004 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Daynarr:
What are game rules/settings? All I see is 50% magic site frequency.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Indy-6, rare randoms, sites-50. While some people are a big fan of random events, I'm not one of those, and with a map this huge, you tend to very quickly hit your 3-event quota, so you'll end up dealing with the nuisance of 3 events EVERY turn otherwise.

Norfleet June 2nd, 2004 05:42 PM

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Victim list:

Caelum: Me.
Mictlan: izaqyos
Vanheim: Tuidjy
Ulm: Yvelina
C'tis: Argitoth
Arco: (Firebreath)
Mary: Zombie
Jot: Vigabrand
Aby: Cohen
Pan: Vynd
R'lyeh: Xodan (DomX)
Ermor: Tuskerlove

11-12 victims. Somewhat better

Daynarr, did you want to join? That'd give us ~12-13, which is close to what we had before. Definitely a worthy crowd.

Firebreath June 2nd, 2004 06:28 PM

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Sorry for keeping my situation in limbo, I will have to be gone for a lot longer than planned (10 days), so please count me out.

Daynarr June 2nd, 2004 06:48 PM

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Well, if Firebreath wont use Arco, I will. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

I will need some more info, like WHERE to join? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Btw, Maltrease wants Pythum a post below mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Norfleet June 2nd, 2004 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Daynarr:
I will need some more info, like WHERE to join? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That was in the very beginning of the thread. I'll restate it here: Sign-up is on kludgemush.com 10629.

CURRENT CATTLE CALL:
Caelum: Me.
Mictlan: izaqyos
Vanheim: Tuidjy
Ulm: Yvelina
C'tis: Argitoth
Arco: (Daynarr)
Mary: Zombie
Jot: Vigabrand
Aby: Cohen
Pan: Vynd
R'lyeh: Xodan (DomX)
Ermor: Tuskerlove
Pythium: Maltrease

Norfleet June 4th, 2004 10:22 AM

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Okay, since there don't appear to be any more victims looking to join the fray, we'll begin the carnage as soon as the Maltrease uploads his pretender. I'll be sure to bug him about this next time I see him on the IRC.

Vynd June 4th, 2004 02:49 PM

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At Last I can get the revenge I so richly deserve... on the World! Muhahahaha!

Norfleet June 4th, 2004 07:47 PM

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Is Daynarr properly registered, or is that Firebreath's arco 2h I see?

Daynarr June 5th, 2004 12:05 AM

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I uploaded my pretender there so I guess you have my 2h.

Norfleet June 5th, 2004 12:36 AM

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Excellente. The game will begin momentarily.

Maltrease June 5th, 2004 01:24 AM

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Sorry about that.
I'm in.

Norfleet June 5th, 2004 02:40 AM

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The game has been started.
In case people have forgotten the address, here it is again: kludgemush.com 10629

We will go to 24h timer once everyone has indicated they are aware of this start by sending in their first turn, or has taken far too long and been deemed AWOL. If too many people have gone AWOL, we'll have to cancel.

Let the games begin!

Vynd June 5th, 2004 03:36 AM

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Those of us who were in the game the first time out should get rid of their old turn file and .2h file. I didn't realize this until after I tried to play my first turn, but hopefully no harm was done.


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