getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

R'Lyeh has shown up near my borders, expanding throughout the seas. How do you prepare for an invasion into R'lyeh waters? Atlantis waters?

Thanks

(this game, I am playing as G.A. Arco)

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

If it's R'Lyeh... then you'll need fast troops to attack large enemy monsters: which usually works for avoiding the cannon fodder in front and blitzing the back. Also I recommend lots of archer types.

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I'd not recommend archer types quite so much since you cant shoot underwater.
I have no experience with Arco GA or what your pretender is, but you get lots of elemental with astral, right? Air and Water will get you the items that take you underwater; then I'd go mounted troops to reach his rearmost fast.
Do you have any death mages? Lots of undead work well too, since they are mindless and hence immune to mind bLast; magic resistance on your mages helps too. Your astral mages can mind bLast as well. I think it's a level 5 conjuration spell, gets you a dozen sea trolls and sea troll capnt, forget name, that should do the trick too. Once you get one prov conquered, start recruiting tritons.
Is that helpful?
What paths you got researched? How far into the game are you? What's your pretender?

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes I see now he is looking to invade the waters... I thought he was preparing for an invasion from them.
my mistake

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The majority of the army should not be undead because otherwise all the mind bLasts will go straight to your commander of the undead.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Simplies solution. Get death mages and maximize death gems production. Pale riders led by several Bane Lords are gonna do the job most efficiently and painfully for enemies.
Pale riders single casting gives you 20 riders for only 10 gems. Bane Lords cost 10 gems IIRC. So, its relatively cheap underwater killer army. You will need to give some water breathing items to your BL's but playing Arco that shouldn't be a problem.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is not true. If you place your commanders at the very back, Illithids will usually Mind BLast mindless units up front. Also, Spirit Mastery is a great summons - the units are throw-away (10 for 4 death gems), but are not mindless and will soal up Illithids bLasts.

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Do the Illithid's actually target mindless units? That's definetly a bug.

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is not true. If you place your commanders at the very back, Illithids will usually Mind BLast mindless units up front. Also, Spirit Mastery is a great summons - the units are throw-away (10 for 4 death gems), but are not mindless and will soal up Illithids bLasts. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What I listed is one of the tips the developers provide which appears between turns. You can go argue with them.

[ June 09, 2004, 17:59: Message edited by: NTJedi ]

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My experience is that Illithids target nearby Mindless units over non-Mindless commanders at the very back of the map.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I realize it is one of the tips. And if you leave your non-mindless commanders in the default position (middle of your portion of the map), they will definitely get Mind BLasted. However, I have found that if you park them at the very back, the Illithids do not bLast them unless there is nothing else left on the battle. My experience is that Illithids target nearby Mindless units over non-Mindless commanders at the very back of the map.

Try it against Rlyeh AI sometime.

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Some more general advice for invading the sea:

Any water mage can enter the sea. He can take along a few units as well. I think it is 1 for every level of water magic he possesses.

On most maps you can find a fair number of land (and sea) provinces where you can build icthyids, which are amphibious.

A land nation cannot build its forts in sea provinces. So be prepared for this.


As for your specific situation, cpbeller, my advice would be to leave R'lyeh alone so long as they leave you alone. It will be much more difficult for you to get a good army of amphibious troops together than it will be for him. You'll be fighting at a definite disadvantage, and even if you win the territory will be difficult for you to defend and just generally not as useful to you as land provinces.

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

yeah....i have been rolling it around in my head all night....i think you are right.

Hopefully, they will leave me alone long enough to secure my southern borders from any possible incursion.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL! And I thought it just me, who sometimes keep thinking about Last turn in MP Dom2 game and turning it this way and that in my head before falling to sleep. Obviously it only happnes if I've been playing Dom2 late before hiting the bed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thanks for sharing it Cpbeller, now I know that I am not alone. Dom2 MP is addicting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: getting ready for an ocean invasion
 

I find that pondering my Dominions turns is a good way to keep my mind occupied during otherwise "dead" time, like in the shower, driving to work, working, eating, etc.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My lack of sleep prevents me from doing any such thing. Instead I just ponder my turns endlessly and without sleep. Then I wind up coming up with something insane that becomes the next whine-du-jour. Insomnia rules.