TIME TO PAY UP!
 

OK people. We seem to have lost some of our most active user-producer types. And the ones that are left are talking about "working" on things and possible burn-out. Some projects seem to have just been dropped, apparently for lack of interest.

Its time to remember how to pay for free things.
If you thanked someone for that mod/map/utility/service that you use all the time then please disregard this post. If not... then track down the threads of all the stuff people did for free, or talked about doing, that you want to see more of. Thank them, put a note in showing them that they werent just talking to themselves, show an interest in getting some more.

This has been a public service announcement from Shrapnel Forums. A free service to the games community. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 10, 2004, 14:43: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

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What do you mean, "lost"?

Of course it is important to thank people who help, even if it is just a handy tip or whatever on these Boards here.
I have the sinking feeling, however, that this announcement may not have the effects you are looking for: this type of "remember to say thank you to grandma!" is an important pedagogical device necessary in educating children, but adults rarely like being treated as such. I think that the vast majority of the people here are decent and grown-up types, who already know that they must say thank you to grandma; those who don't know this already will probably be turned-off by official admonishments. But maybe I'm wrong.

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I dunno tinkthank, something kinda similar started happening with The War Engine. There's some fantastic folks who post to that board, but after awhile the mods just stopped coming. It was a shame because they really added to the gaming experience to see how other people go about creating 'The Perfect Game'. There were still some mods that were tossed around that never really saw the light of day. (Battletech, Green Things from Outer Space, Space Bunnies Must Die).
An insane amount of time and effort can go into a mod, so getting a little encouragement can go a long way. Especially when your bloodshot eyes are staring at a map of pixels magnified 1000x, its 4:00am and you begin to wonder if you are the only person in the world who wants to be able to have Batman fight barbarian mimes in prehistoric France...
Anyway, off my soapbox now. Be expecting something from me today or tomorrow that will knock your socks off. It doesn't have Batman tho... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I built this Vickers machine gun for Halflife quite a few years back and it was awesome to see how many people emailed me about it because it helped them build their own ("if this littlemute chump can make this, I can do better!") or use it in one of their maps.

The praise does help keep the fire under the butt. So yeah, if you see a mod you like EMAIL the person and tell them they rock. (this is like a usenet "me too" post!)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well it was prompted by me kicking myself for not doing it. Some very helpful threads here that were being maintained and updated by individuals, seem to have fallen stagnant. I was wondering if I should try to get someone to take up where they left off, and I realized that I probably should have shown appreciation when they were still being maintained.

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Is that what happened to Saber Cherry?

Scott

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Well yes the Newbie Thread Saber Cherry was maintaining is one I miss. And the WishList thread that St. Patrick was maintaining. Arryns site had alot of our downloads and Im having trouble getting there. There are more but I cant remember them right now so if anyone is watching this waiting for me to say their name please consider it said. Ummm thanks to all the fan sites, the devs for free patches, shrapnel for a free forum, Bush for giving me so much free time, Murphy for leaving my computer alone..
(oh now we are just getting silly)

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I don't know if this is the right thread for this post, but:

I just wanted to thank Phillipe, Leif and Gandolf for their work relating to the random map generator.

Thanks a lot!

- Matt L. :->

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I seem to recall hearing from somebody that Saber Cherry was killed in a gruesome accident during a fishing trip sometime in mid-April.

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I haven't tried out most maps, as I still nly have the demo, but those that I have look very nice. Thanks go to Robin le Guetteur (I hope I got that right), the map is great even for me who doesn't understand French...
Also thanks for Andrew J. Osborn. I just *had* to try 'Ringworld' out when I saw it, even though I knew I wouldn't be able to fully enjoy it with the demo!

And, Saber Cherry. I think I will try to find and bump threads about her Battle Simulator and the gauntlet listings.

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"Batman fight barbarian mimes in prehistoric France..."

When will this mod be finished? Can we have a progress report each week please? Why haven't you done any more work on this mod? Geez you guys suck, I've been waiting for this mod for ten minutes and still no news.

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You ARE joking, right?

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I don't know about that, but Saber's Last Posts were in Space Empires IV -forum in early April.

I almost posted a message like yours... But did a quick search instead. I really Wish Norfleet just forgot the smilie out...

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Given that the reported date of Saber Cherry's untimely demise was sometime in mid-April, this would be perfectly consistent with a Last posting early April.

It is, of course, merely rumored, but there's currently no evidence that contradicts this.

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OK ... it seems to me a bit silly, but anyway, if it could be usefull ...

- thank to developoers for the game and the support
- thank to Zen and Saber_Cherry for theyr FAQ and Newbie Guide, most of which I have used as basis for my Manual Addenda
- thank to Sunray Be, Arryn and Gandalf Parker for theyr web sites and support to the game
- thank again to Zen for his Magic Items Quick Reference and Summoned Creature Quick reference ... I hope someday he will realease the long time promised Spell refernce
- thank to Sunray Be for all the material on his web site (in particular the unit DB and the tips on the spells)
- thank to Aldin for the Magic Boost File
- thank to Ceremony for his beautiful Dominion document (he told that was the first chapter of a full guide I hope someday will see the light of the spots!)
- thank to Gothmog for his Quick Reference Guide ... I hope he could release an updated Version
- thank to the author (I don't remember the name) of the document with all the castle data
- thank to all people has spent time in modding and mapping ... I have play most of my games on the two maps by Targa (why not a new one ?) and Jason Lutes (a new one ?). Also I have played a lot with the KoL mod by Sube and the Hoburg Se by Teraswaerto, Adept and Nekov.

... I'm sure to have forgot someone ... sorry ...

finally thank to all people that use some of theyr free time helping other to solve they problem in this forum ... is always a good things to have someone to talk about your hobbies.

bye bye and good play
Liga

[ June 14, 2004, 13:04: Message edited by: liga ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nor is there evidence contradicting an infinite number of other rumours that may be invented, such as the existence of an advanced civilization living inside the Earth's core.

No information is conveyed nor is any other useful purpose served by rumour-mongering.

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Nonetheless, there are no alternate theories as to Saber Cherry's untimely disappearance, nor any reported sightings anywhere. As the source in question did not provide any other supporting evidence, I classified the matter was "rumored", but given that there is nothing which contradicts it, nor any other plausible reasons, it's reasonable to expect that something of this sort has undoubtedly occurred.

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Oh, believe me, you guys (or rather, Norfleet) got me worried to the point where I ran searches of my own. XD

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So, let me get this straight. According to you, there is no doubt ("undoubtedly") that an event has occurred which is, in some meaningful way, similar ("something of this sort") to Saber Cherry having died in a gruesome fishing accident. You are certain of it.

This is despite that fact that the most common reason (by a looong way) for people disappearing from forums is a loss of commitment or interest in the forum topic.

My view on this is supported, but not proved, by the fact that at the time in question, she dropped out of a game in which she was allied with me, saying she just couldn't face hours of turn preparation any more.

I think that, contrary to your rumour, SC just got a life. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">After posting this, I emailed Saber Cherry. I regret to report that there has been no reply in a week, from which I infer that she has either lost her internet access completely, or there's something in the rumours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Told you so.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">After posting this, I emailed Saber Cherry. I regret to report that there has been no reply in a week, from which I infer that she has either lost her internet access completely, or there's something in the rumours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I also sent an official one from Shrapnel asking if Saber was going to continue maintaining the newbie sticky or should I seek a replacement. This was prior to the conversation here. I was able to verify that it was received into the mailbox but I have had no responses.

Ive always made light about my 16 hour a day virtual lifestyle. But this conversation, and a like one in the SEIV forum where they recently lost a member, has made me realize in all seriousness that if I want to properly inform everyone and have it properly attended, I will have to have my funeral Online. That seems like a giggle but Im serious.

[ June 22, 2004, 15:23: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

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Well a web cam at your funeral might be going a bit far, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif but it's a simple matter to put something in your will or whatever to have your executor visit your regular Online haunts and post an official notice of your passing.