Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Heya, is there any way to upgrade the demo beyond 2.08? Cause when I choose the Jutun theme "Utgard", it gives me the Smouldercone in my main province. >,> Talk about useless for cold 2... Is there a fix to this? I'm running win98. Thanks!

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

You must run a v2.11 or higher demo, and start a new game.

EDIT: The Utgard theme was broken in patch 2.08; it's a known bug.

[ July 22, 2004, 03:03: Message edited by: Arryn ]

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Thanks, where do I find a later demo for windows?

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Is there one? I wasn't aware they kept the demo up to date anymore.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

I'm not sure what the current Version of the demo on IW's download page is.

[ July 22, 2004, 03:07: Message edited by: Arryn ]

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

That's 2.08, what I'm now running. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I remember some time ago, I didnt have this bug. Then it cropped up. I deleted the game and the folder, and reinstalled, but its still here.

Wierd.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Is there one? I wasn't aware they kept the demo up to date anymore. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The demo was updated from 2.06 to 2.08 (thus breaking it) when patch 2.08 was released. I *assumed* that IW would likewise update their demo to 2.11 (and then 2.12). If not, people need to scream at IW ...

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Well, where can I find mods that will work on the demo that are some "suggested" mods? Especially for a newbie like me? Things to help with the interface or things that are just useful...

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

There are no mods that tweak the UI. IW has not exposed the UI to modding. I doubt they could even if they wanted to (and IW's programmer hates UI coding).

You can try these locations for mods:

IW's mods page

my downloads page

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

*sighs* so no one knows where i could find a better Version of the demo?

I've been reading your AAR, Ms. Arryn, and I fancy tracing your steps with my own Utgard map, in order to figure out the hows and whys you do the things you did, to better understand this game...

Unfortunately, I cant do that with a broken demo...

>,>

Oy vey...

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm flattered, thanks. Might I suggest the obvious? Buy the game ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

I've got two words for you: Credit Cards.

I will, after a paycheck or two, be able to pay off my (not significant, but unsettling nonetheless) credit card debt, and be able to buy this game. However, I havent reached that point...

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Ack. Paying off credit card debt is Un-American! You're supposed to rack up thousands (tens of thousands is even better) of dollars of debt, then declare bankruptcy, sticking it to all other credit card Users (those who haven't yet figured out how this pyramid scheme is supposed to work) in the form of higher interest and fees. Or, if you are one of those rare people with a conscience and sense of personal responsibility (shame on you), remain in debt up to your eyebrows for life, paying obscene amounts of interest all the while. Debt makes the economy work. After all, if it's good for the U.S. government, it must be good for individual citizens too, right?

Just remember: debit cards and cash are a communist plot, and tools of the devil.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

I've located a copy of the original, v2.02 demo, in case anyone's interested in my making it available. I've had no luck finding the v2.06 demo.

I fail to understand why IW hasn't updated the demo to the 2.12 level. It's bad PR to have a demo out there with a known, major bug such as a totally broken theme; a bug that doesn't exist in any other Version except 2.08.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

I used 2.02 to test the game, which I thought was the only one on the main Shrapnel page.

Krool

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The demo Version on Shrapnel's site is 2.08 (the Version with a broken Utgard theme). The 2.02 and 2.06 demos don't have that particular bug, though of course they have (plenty of) other bugs that have since been fixed.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Yea, you know, I downloaded this a few months ago, so that would probably make sense why I have 2.02. I actually had put it down because of complexity and a lack of understanding what was going on but picked it back up after checking out the forums. Am I glad I did. Awesome game.

Krool

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If nothing else, you'd think they'd update the demo to hide the broken theme, but Illwinter doesn't seem to believe in putting out tiny incremental releases that simply fix a glaring bug without adding anything else.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, I noticed that. IW found the bug (and cure) within minutes of 2.08's release, yet it took them 2 months to come out with the fix in the form of the 2.11 patch. Sigh. IW could learn a few things from Blizzard, Stardock, Panther Games, and even Sony with regards to the usefulness of quick fixes. (Well, so long as they don't pick up any of Sony's monumentally bad customer service habits while they're at it.)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif i love it
ill bear that in mind next time i want to buy something http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Is it possible to load a mod in the Demo? How would I do that? Perhaps the Arcoscephale mod? How would I load and play that with the demo? Thanks!

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">IIRC, no.

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

Arryn, where was that 2.02 demo?

[ July 24, 2004, 21:52: Message edited by: Gavinfox ]

Re: Strange demo bugs? Utgard = Smouldercone?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Try this link. If you have any problems getting it from them I can upload it to my own site.

EDIT: if anyone out there has an installable copy of the v2.06 demo, please let me know. I'd like to be able to host it on my site. Thanks.

[ July 24, 2004, 22:03: Message edited by: Arryn ]