.com.unity Forums

.com.unity Forums (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/index.php)
-   Dominions 2: The Ascension Wars (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55)
-   -   2.12 VQ nerf (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=19755)

magnate July 28th, 2004 10:10 AM

2.12 VQ nerf
 
Hi all,

Back after a long relapse into Diablo II, and looking forward to investigating 2.12 .... but my half-finished SP game won't load, Nagot Gik Fel says "error - game is broken". It's a 2.11 game with a VQ pretender - so I was expecting to see some kind of "player is cheating" message, but to be able to carry on.

I've searched this board for "2.12 VQ" and similar terms, but can't find anything. Surely this has happened to someone else, continuing a 2.11 game with a VQ. What do I have to do?

Yours confused,

CC

Norfleet July 28th, 2004 11:21 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
There appears to be no issues known with continuing a 2.11 VQ game under 2.12, so that's not the cause of why your game is broken. Admittedly "Game is Broken" is not a terribly informative error. Maybe it's just corrupt.

magnate July 28th, 2004 12:48 PM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
There appears to be no issues known with continuing a 2.11 VQ game under 2.12, so that's not the cause of why your game is broken. Admittedly "Game is Broken" is not a terribly informative error. Maybe it's just corrupt.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm. Did I preserve everything I needed? (I have reinstalled since I Last played 2.11) I saved the "newlords" dir and the game dir ("cc3"). Was there anything else?

CC

magnate July 28th, 2004 11:27 PM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
There appears to be no issues known with continuing a 2.11 VQ game under 2.12, so that's not the cause of why your game is broken. Admittedly "Game is Broken" is not a terribly informative error. Maybe it's just corrupt.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've now tried all my old SP games, and I get the same error for all of them. I didn't get it upgrading from 2.08 to 2.11, but I do now. Am I overlooking something obvious? Has anyone else had the "game is broken" error, and know what it is? Is it something as simple as the timestamps on the game dirs (somehow the game knows it didn't create them)?

CC

archaeolept July 29th, 2004 12:33 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

the game dir ("cc3").
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">the game dir? there isn't a game dir in domII

did you put all your save games in a dir that you named "game"?

Norfleet July 29th, 2004 12:50 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by archaeolept:
the game dir? there isn't a game dir in domII

did you put all your save games in a dir that you named "game"?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The "game directory" would be the directory with the name of your game, like "Fat_Obstreperous_Jerks", or something. If you put all your saved games in a directory you named "game", though, then yeah, you broke it.

magnate July 30th, 2004 10:14 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by archaeolept:
the game dir? there isn't a game dir in domII

did you put all your save games in a dir that you named "game"?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The "game directory" would be the directory with the name of your game, like "Fat_Obstreperous_Jerks", or something. If you put all your saved games in a directory you named "game", though, then yeah, you broke it. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No no, each game is in its own dir, as created by Dom2. I call my games cc1, cc2, cc3 etc., so that's what the game dirs are called. When I reinstalled Windoze, I saved those dirs, plus the "newlords" dir where the pretenders are. I didn't save anything else, but putting back what I saved has given me lots of broken games. Can't anyone tell me why??

FWIW, each game dir contains only three files:

fthrlnd
race.2h
race.trn

where "race" is whatever I was playing that game. (cc1 = man, cc2 = pythium, cc3 = ulm)

The newlords dir contains only .2h files for each pretender, much smaller than the .2h files in the game dirs ....

So, is anything missing?

CC

Sheap July 30th, 2004 10:23 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
It looks to me like what you are missing are the .trn and/or .2h files for the other races in the game. The fatherland file is fixed and contains the initial world data only. The current state information is stored in the .trn and .2h files.

You'll also need the copy of the .map and .tga files you were using.

The stuff in newlords isn't really important for savegames.

magnate July 30th, 2004 12:32 PM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sheap:
It looks to me like what you are missing are the .trn and/or .2h files for the other races in the game. The fatherland file is fixed and contains the initial world data only. The current state information is stored in the .trn and .2h files.

You'll also need the copy of the .map and .tga files you were using.

The stuff in newlords isn't really important for savegames.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok, but surely in SP games there's only my .trn and .2h files, because the AI doesn't write them!

Maybe the map files are the problem - but surely a reinstall would have sorted that out. How does the program know which map is being used by each game - is that in the fathrlnd file? I should just check that all the map files are in the right places, and haven't been changed in 2.12. All three of my games use different maps, so I don't suppose all three have been changed.

CC

Sheap July 30th, 2004 08:43 PM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Hmm you are right about that. AI players in multiplayer write .2h files but in actual single player games they don't.

So my suggestion is useless then.

Agrajag July 30th, 2004 09:09 PM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Did you install dom2 into a different directory or drive the second time around?
Maybe the map information is stored on the file and says:
The game map is in "A:\bcdefg\hijkl\mnop\dominions2\maps"
Instead of the new "M:\nopqrst\uvwxyz\domII\maps"
?

Its a possibility :\

Norfleet July 31st, 2004 08:33 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sheap:
Hmm you are right about that. AI players in multiplayer write .2h files but in actual single player games they don't.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">AI players don't write 2h or trn files in multiplayer, either: The 2h file that's left over is actually the Last remnant of a deceased human player's orders.

Sheap July 31st, 2004 11:31 AM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Well cut off my legs and call me shorty, then.

magnate July 31st, 2004 06:09 PM

Re: 2.12 VQ nerf
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Agrajag:
Did you install dom2 into a different directory or drive the second time around?
Maybe the map information is stored on the file and says:
The game map is in "A:\bcdefg\hijkl\mnop\dominions2\maps"
Instead of the new "M:\nopqrst\uvwxyz\domII\maps"
?

Its a possibility :\

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is indeed - good thinking Batman. I've had a look through the fathrlnd files with a hex editor, nothing that looks like a path to a map file in any of them.

Calling all devs - I'd really appreciate a pointer here - is Agrajag onto something? I have installed Dom2 onto a different drive this time around.

Is it perhaps something to do with the Windoze registry? Is each game entered into the registry when created?

I've created a new "cc1" game, and the only change to the Dom2 directory was the new cc1 game dir being created. I then replaced the files in cc1 with the files of my old cc1 game, and it won't load. So I suspect there must be something path-specific in the ftherlnd file, but I can't find it.

Any help much appreciated,

CC


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:49 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.