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hi y'all

since i didn't manage to make it into the Last game i started, here's another one.

Settings: Indies 9, sites 55, Inland map HOF 15, renaming enabled. Looking for 12 players.

Hosting interval: will start out at 25 hours quickhost. at turn 30 i'll change it to two days QH. if that's too short come the late game, I could increase that to 3 days.

Rules: No Caelum or Ermor except broken empire. No watchtowers or mausoleums.

Victory Conditions: there should be 75 VP, so the first to 35 wins. as a consequence of capitals being worth VP, they will show up as crowns on the map.

Due to the lack of water on this map, taking Atlantis would be a very bad idea.

Never having played Mictlan in MP, i'd like to give them a try. If someone else has there heart set on the micts, I could be presumed upon to change. Mind you, I don't know how the feeble micts can expand against lvl 9 indies http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ July 31, 2004, 03:10: Message edited by: Zen ]

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Hmmmm...
I'd really like to participate in a multiplayer game, but being a newb...
Im not sure if thats such a great idea for me...
I guess I can either fill in an unfillable slot for you or just provide comic relief in-game :/
I just HAD to respond, so Im sorry if you consider this post a waste of time...

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no that's cool. having some newbs in game is always fine. that's the way to learn.

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Hmmm. I think I'll claim ... the Jotuns. Been a while since I played them.

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im in as mictlan

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If thats the case I think I'll give Pan a chance.
Im not sure exactly why, I don't have much expirience with them, but I like them almost as much as I like AE ermor =P (not as much play with them though).
Do you think I could take the Carrion Woods theme (not sure if I want to, but I might =P)

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tauren, I had already claimed mictlan before you posted (I had originally thought of vanheim, but the micts are funny). If you really want mictlan though, i can change to vanheim.

edit: ehh, i'll just take vanheim then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

agrajag: sure, CW is fine if you want

[ July 30, 2004, 17:42: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

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actually your origional post had still said vanheim when i posted, but its ok cuz im out, so you can be mictlan

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nah, must have been keeping the thread unrefreshed. but really, that's cool. I'm as interested in vanheim as mictlan, so no probs if you want it.

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Actually, if you are still desiring Mictlan I would like Vanheim. If you are firm on Vanheim I could play Man if there was a slot for me.

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oh lol now i'm getting confused http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

here's what i suggest: tauren mict, me van, ozy man

if tauren doesn't want in, me mict, ozy van


all up to tauren http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Sounds fair.

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Hey, if there is room for yet another newbie, I would like to take a shot in this game. I do not care about myrace in the slightest so I will take whatever is left over. Not water, though, as there is not much water on this map.

I note that Norfleet went and took Ermor already without posting in here. Is Broken Empire more balanced than either of the other two destructive themes ? Those other two seem heavily unbalanced to me. But then again, I am a newbie, currently playing on turn 6 in my first attempt at MP.

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ermor is pretty strong, but broken empire is basically just a fairly normal nation. I'm not sure what's up w/ Norfleet - he uploaded a pretender before I had finished figuring out the game or starting the thread. I wouldn't say the two undead themes for ermor are terribly unblanced, but i'm a bit tired of them.

anyways, you're welcome to join. just pick a nation.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As far as my newb knowledge goes, AE and SG are pretty powerful, BUT certain anti-undead strategies cut through undead like a hot knife through butter, certain spells can destroy an entire undead army in one cast (provided you cast them before Protection of The Sepulcher kicks in, and even then...).
I'd say AE and SG are most unbalanced and overpowered against the AI...
But thats just me...
...

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I'm in. I'll take Pythium.

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Ozy: just so we get this a bit clear, since others are joining, I'll leave mict open (for tauren or whomever), play vanheim (i'd go w/ Man, but i'm playing them in my other game) and you get Man (which sounds like you're fine with).

so, currently:

Me: vanheim
Cainehill: Jotunheim
Agrajag: pangaia
Ozymandias: Man
Truper: Pythium
djtool: t'ien chi

Norfleet: ermor, but this could change as he claimed the slot before the rules were listed

Tauren: wanted mictlan, but w/drew, so mictlan is currently open.

[ July 30, 2004, 18:17: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

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What I've seen of BE Ermor their Principes are just as stout as Pythium's. Plus they have Body Ethereal pre-researched and only modestly priced Thaumaturgs, so early expansion ought to be pretty cheap. Aside from their excelent nether dart ability though, they are lacking in later magical potence. I may be underestimating the might of death and astral though.

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i'll give tien chi a shot.

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I'm going to take a spot, let me peek at what's left and I'll post it here (tonight).

Indie 9's, eh? wow

Krool

[ July 30, 2004, 18:23: Message edited by: KroolDeath ]

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may i participate as pan cw ?
would be nice to see if my ideas in my humble attempt for my pan cw guide prove working in mp http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
indep 9 will help me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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oh someone already claimed pangenea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

because you excluded ermor anyways i think the rule would apply for pan cw anyways right ?

pan cw is basically ermor with vq ^^

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you'll give me some good advice for another nation (good advice as in, good tips + good nation) I'll switch with you =P

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Just a note on Taruen. He withdrew because I expressed an interest in this game. But we have only one CD key between us, so we can both play only as hot seat, I believe. Which would be a pain since we can't each play on our own computers.

I am currently in my first MP game and Tauren is currently in two. That was why he was relinquishing his spot to me.

But I am trying to get a second game (that I am in) going again. If that is the case, and the people in this game think it would not be fair for my son and I to both be playing in a game, then I will give the slot back to The Tauren.

By the way, we are both total newbies to MP.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you'll give me some good advice for another nation (good advice as in, good tips + good nation) I'll switch with you =P </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">lol thnx http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

guess archaeolept simply forgot to exclude pan cw though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

archaeolept could you please clarify these rules :
- pan cw allowed or not ?
- research setting : normal or something different ?

so i would like to try abysia if research is not higher than normal http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
because the settings are very interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you'll give me some good advice for another nation (good advice as in, good tips + good nation) I'll switch with you =P </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">lol thnx http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

guess archaeolept simply forgot to exclude pan cw though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

archaeolept could you please clarify these rules :
- pan cw allowed or not ?
- research setting : normal or something different ?

so i would like to try abysia if research is not higher than normal http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
because the settings are very interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Quote from page #1 "agrajag: sure, CW is fine if you want"
In response to me asking if CW is a valid theme for Pan.
Do you still want to use abysia?
Because Im getting more and more attached to Pan as time passes by and I realize that even though Im not that good with them, I will suck a lot worse with other nations.

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research is normal, so I'll put you down for abysia.

pan CW I allowed, but partly because i forgot to disallow it, and partly because it was a neophyte player who wished to use it. I'd rather CW only be played by a newb, so to speak.

Panther: that makes sense. It doesn't bother me if both you and your son are in the game, though.

currently:

Me: vanheim

Cainehill: Jotunheim
Agrajag: pangaia
Ozymandias: Man
Truper: Pythium
djtool: t'ien chi
Boron: abysia

Norfleet: ermor, but this could change as he claimed the slot before the rules were listed

Tauren: wanted mictlan, but w/drew, so mictlan is currently open.


that's 7 slots taken, not including tauren, so 5 more left, or so.


edit update: norfleet is no longer in, so BE ermor is open. however, to kick him i need to kick all anonymous slots, so djtool if you could please claim your slot on the mosehansen page :_

https://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/do...game=hard_slog

double edit: took care of it

[ July 30, 2004, 18:58: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

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Well, I officialy claimed the Pan spot in the server.
I hope I'll do nicely, surviving past the 10th turn would be nice =P (as far as the rules of diplomacy go, being the noob means that I won't have much control over provinces and no alliance will rise up against me, whoopie! ...)
I wonder how my pretender will do =P
He's a bit bizzarely built =P

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">hehe curious if you took pan cw .
if so don't read my humble attempt for a pan cw newbie/advanced guide http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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ok well i guess i will take mictlan

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I will take Arco then.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">hehe curious if you took pan cw .
if so don't read my humble attempt for a pan cw newbie/advanced guide http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wouldn't it be more fun if you'd have to wait 'till the game started to see?
Anyway, I can assure you that wether I took CW or not, Im going to use a strategy of my own, it might or might not be similar to yours in case I did choose CW.
Im just pulling your strings.

BTW, just a little something about myself as a player diplomacy wise - I don't backstab anyone no matter what.
I don't cheat/lie/betray/fool/decieve or any kind of those dishonest "activities".
And I expect everyone to behave the same way (though Im too realistice to think that other players will live to my expectations).
You could say "I don't play the diplomatic game"

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May I take Marignon please?

I am a semi newbie also. This will be my third game with one of them in the turn mid 30s while the other one is with panther and we are on turn 7 or something. I never played marignon before but want to give it a shot.

Aku

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I am a newbie also, may I play Ulm? Klatu

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This reminds me of my roommate named Craig back in college. In our first game of Risk, Craig made a deal with someone (whom I can no longer remember). Some time later, that other person broke the alliance unannounced. Craig then made a quick temporary alliance with every other person in the game and proceeded to shuffle every army he had to the front with the truce-breaker. He then crashed everything he had in a glorius battle against the guy. Both my roommate and the truce-breaker were quickly eliminated from the game, needless to say.

And then, it got even worse. The very next game, Craig did the same thing to the truce-breaker. Craig attacked the guy exclusively until they were both gone yet again. Afterwards, Craig asked if he learned his lesson. The truce-breaker agreed that he surely did. In fact, we all did. No one ever broke a truce with Craig after that. We got good at it, for you could make a temporary truce, saying for example, we will not attack each other until X occurs or Y turns. Or give a three turn notice to ending the truce. All this was perfectly acceptable to Craig, as long as you were true to your word.

Anyway, it is amazing that I still remember that Risk game from so long ago but it sure stuck with me through the years.


The Panther

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This reminds me of my roommate named Craig back in college. In our first game of Risk, Craig made a deal with someone (whom I can no longer remember). Some time later, that other person broke the alliance unannounced. Craig then made a quick temporary alliance with every other person in the game and proceeded to shuffle every army he had to the front with the truce-breaker. He then crashed everything he had in a glorius battle against the guy. Both my roommate and the truce-breaker were quickly eliminated from the game, needless to say.

And then, it got even worse. The very next game, Craig did the same thing to the truce-breaker. Craig attacked the guy exclusively until they were both gone yet again. Afterwards, Craig asked if he learned his lesson. The truce-breaker agreed that he surely did. In fact, we all did. No one ever broke a truce with Craig after that. We got good at it, for you could make a temporary truce, saying for example, we will not attack each other until X occurs or Y turns. Or give a three turn notice to ending the truce. All this was perfectly acceptable to Craig, as long as you were true to your word.

Anyway, it is amazing that I still remember that Risk game from so long ago but it sure stuck with me through the years.


The Panther </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You'd be amazed at what you can remember over the years.
I still regret thrashing my cool police car toy back when I was ~ 3-5 (you usually don't remember how old you are in those cases =P).
Basically, I wouldn't go to the extent of thrashing the other guy in the second game, but I would go through a lot of trouble to revenge a truce-breaker.

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currently:

Me: vanheim

Cainehill: Jotunheim
Agrajag: pangaia
Ozymandias: Man
Truper: Pythium
djtool: t'ien chi
Boron: abysia
Tauren: mictlan
Panther: arcos
aku: marignon
klatu: ulm

still another slot or two open

remember guys, this is w/ indy-9, which is pretty crazy sometimes. pls expect to have your main army crushed and your pretender stomped sometime fairly early in the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ July 30, 2004, 20:51: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

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I'll take C'Tis.

Krool

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, hopefuly I'll have atleast one province :\
Anyway, Im just reminding you guys Im on GMT+2.
So how does that work for hosting times etc. ?
Its 00:08 here now BTW...

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What's still open?
Ryleh and Machaka?

[ July 30, 2004, 21:20: Message edited by: Cohen ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">BE Ermor as well... :\
EDIT: this is assuming that archaeolept wouldnt mind going over the 12 player limit he thought of originaly (Im not sure how rigid that limit is, so you might still have a chance =P

[ July 30, 2004, 21:34: Message edited by: Agrajag ]

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Well I'll see to try Ryleh.

[ July 30, 2004, 21:54: Message edited by: Cohen ]

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we currently have 12, but could probably squeeze in another one.

agrajag: its 25 hour quickhost, which means that whenever the Last person turns in his move, it will automatically host, and then host again 25 hrs later unless everyone gets in their moves prior to that. It is very easy and functional - even if you're the Last guy to get in a move you'll have 25 hrs to get in the next one.

that said, its nice to try to push a good pace in the easy early part of the game.

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Is the 300 gold underwater castle forbidden too?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ooops i almost overlooked that . was pretty content with my pretender just 7 points left and castle watchtower LOL .

luckily i have some points to spare in scales as abysia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yeah because above sea it is a watchtower and has the same stats .
would be betrayal than .

if this is allowed i see no reason why i may not take watchtower too .
so i vote for forbid that 300 gold castle .

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no 300 gold castles except wizard's tower

game is now full. figure out your pretenders, upload them, and claim your slot on the mosehansen page. I'll start the game probably tomorrow afternoon, as long as people have gotten their pretenders in.

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I took absia, didn't see it claimed when i did it, there were only 3 players on it then.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">so what to do now ?
i claimed it most likely before you here in the thread and that matters .
can't you take any other nation ?
i really would like to be in that game with abysia .
and according to first come first serve abysia belongs rightfully to me too .

i looked on mosehansen too and only 2 pretenders were uploaded so i thought just register here and take your time designing the pretender .
most likely almost at the same time i registered here you loaded up your pretender on mosehansen .

i have only 2 games running so far on mosehansen + 3 months holidays and the settings of these game i really like .
so lets let archaeolept decide .
i myself have really strong motivation though to be in this game because of the above mentioned arguments .
so it would be fair if you don't want to be in that game as passionate as me to let me play abysia .
and i think i was a bit earlier than you too .

[ July 30, 2004, 23:15: Message edited by: Boron ]

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If it will make matters easier, and someone is interested, I will give up my position of C'tis so both Boron and odd_enuf can play. Thats assuming someone wants C'tis.

Otherwise, I'm uploading my Pretender tonight (because I am interested in playing as well but as a newb, there will plenty of other opportunities and I can afford to give up a slot).

Krool