can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

does the battle ai override it or can you cast wither bones into meeleeing troops ?

because this way you would damage both your own and the enemies undeads .
so does this work or not ?

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

Yes, the AI has no objections to inflicting friendly fire if you tell it to do so. In fact, it'll even preferentially target your own troops sometimes, since it isn't aware of deep and insightful tactics like "leading the target" or "missing to hit". Thus, it will aim directly at the target, and, naturally, miss and hit something else, probably something of yours.

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ah good cause i think i need it against vampire hordes . unfortunately i am ermor in this game grmml so i will kill lots of my own stuff too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif .

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So what? You're Ermor. What do you care if you cremate some of your troops. There's plenty more where they came from ...

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So what? You're Ermor. What do you care if you cremate some of your troops. There's plenty more where they came from ... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">uhm to have a chance i need 2 armies with a shield of about 1500 undeads each . mictlan can throw 500 vampires each turn on me . so if i lose each attack more than 100-200 undeads my valuable mages may be in danger http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif .
i have to devastate his blood grounds so i need to keep both armies about 20 turns alive to succeed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ August 06, 2004, 11:31: Message edited by: Boron ]

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

Some ideas...
Staff of Storms grounds the vampires, so you can cast Wither bones once or twice safely. You probably won't have air magic though.

Banefire Archers could work, but would be expensive chaff if the vampires get to them. Risky.

If the commanders of that army are not undead you could try casting something that has no effect on undead. Quess who will be targeted... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

If you've high research I'd Stygian Path an entire army into his capitol.

Take over Immortality ...

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yeah i have a staff of storm for this purpose http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .
i think mainly i will have to fight against 500-1000 vampires leaded by vampire lords http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
war will start unfortunately in about 5-10 turns because the opponent between us has to be killed first http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . mictlan has reached blood 8 this turn so he is most likely already beginning with chainsummoning vampire hordes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

"i think mainly i will have to fight against 500-1000 vampires leaded by vampire lords http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif "

That is a very large number.

"war will start unfortunately in about 5-10 turns because the opponent between us has to be killed first http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif "

No I don't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

"mictlan has reached blood 8 this turn so he is most likely already beginning with chainsummoning vampire hordes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif "

Vamps are blood 7 so there may be lots already - where does he get his death from?

You are probably talking about a different game anyway.


Pickles
edited typoes

[ August 06, 2004, 12:26: Message edited by: Pickles ]

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

1.-Dominion push him with temples: make sure his vampires fight outside home turf so that you do not face them multiple times.

2.-Undead mastery + Control the dead: turn his vampires into _your_ vampires (you do have a high Death skill pretender, right?)

3.-Vampire troopers have poor morale & no protection, capitalize on these if you can.

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">the problem is he is mictlan so i have no chance to win the dominionwar http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

so i need to devastate his rich blood provinces ( he has growth 2 or 3 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ) . but he can throw his vampires always on me this way http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

can't try any globals because he will dispell .

undead mastery and control the dead might be worth a try http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

unfortunately a vampire has 22 hp so he needs 2 wither bones to die and i can't cast holy pyre http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Re: can you cast wither bones when your own undead are in melee ?
 

"1.-Dominion push him with temples: make sure his vampires fight outside home turf so that you do not face them multiple times."

In this game his dominion is awesome - if he can pump it his push will alwasy be better plus he has castle & temple spammed already

"3.-Vampire troopers have poor morale & no protection, capitalize on these if you can."

Maybe fire arrows - does it work on velites? (ie is it fire ARROWS or fire MISSILES)

Pickles