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DeathDaemon August 15th, 2004 05:18 AM

Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
Ultima IV on commadore 64/128 has to be one of the best games ever!... Which Ultima was the best one? (I liked Serpent Isle too) I'm not gonna make a poll.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif But I think a Dom2 map of one or more of these would be sweet.

Found them at:
http://www.dengler.net/xedragon/hrump/index.htm#maps

Here's some of the better ones
Ultima1
Ulitma4
Ultima7
Ultima7 Serpent Isle

Substitute 200 for the 050 in the URLs to get a dom2 sized map.

Arryn August 15th, 2004 06:13 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
You have to get permission from the copyright holder first, before you can use any of these maps ...

Agrajag August 15th, 2004 06:30 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
And besides, those maps are TINY!
If you are going to enlrage them, they are going to look like crap, and if you are going to keep their current size, they are going to make VERY boring game maps...

DeathDaemon August 15th, 2004 06:33 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
The links I supplied are the the 50% scaled Version for faster downloads. They have large enough maps available.

Arryn August 15th, 2004 06:36 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
Even if you doubled each dimension (quadrupled the map size), they'd still be tiny.

Agrajag August 15th, 2004 06:48 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
Think of it this way - a minimal map is considered to be 1600X1200 (which is still TINY), now check your maps.

DeathDaemon August 15th, 2004 07:06 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
Once again, they have maps at sizes of 2280x2370. I posted the shrunk Versions for faster preview.

Arryn August 15th, 2004 07:20 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
The 200% maps you refer to are "grainy" and thus ugly to look at. The 100% maps are still too small. The amount of editing work required to fix either the 100% maps or the 200% ones is, IMO, better spent just creating new maps using one of the available random map generators. Besides, dubious nostalgia for Ultima aside, what's so great about any of these maps? They're lame compared to the quality of the maps already available for download from IW's site and my own site. Again, this is my opinion, but if someone cannot at least come close to matching the quality of the stuff that's already available, what's the point? It's a much more rewarding gaming experience to play on beautiful and/or carefully-crafted maps. The Ultima maps are crude, at best (and that's being generous to them).

Boron August 15th, 2004 09:11 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
sorry i don't think the maps look stylish too .
a perfect example for a stylish dominions 2 map from another rpg are edis brilliant faerun maps .

but the ultima maps you showed are too small and don't fit my taste too .

perhaps you can make a good 1on1 map with 50 provinces of one of the maps but not a bigger one imho .

you can prove us all wrong though with making a really nice map out of those ultima maps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

DeathDaemon August 15th, 2004 10:55 PM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
I made a map using the Ultima 7 Black Gate map, 289 provinces... came out pretty good I think. Added special locations for magic sites (Dungeons, shrines, Bucaneer's Den, etc.) and added moongates to make for an interesting play.

Testing it now locally with a few friends, but if there is some interest and someone would like to host the map I'll send them the files. Looking at a 12-16MB .tga as of right now.

Yes I'm aware of all the good user contributed content. I've played it all plenty of times;). Something new, even if not exactly new, should be fun for a little while...

Boron August 16th, 2004 09:13 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
Quote:

DeathDaemon said:
I made a map using the Ultima 7 Black Gate map, 289 provinces... came out pretty good I think. Added special locations for magic sites (Dungeons, shrines, Bucaneer's Den, etc.) and added moongates to make for an interesting play.

Testing it now locally with a few friends, but if there is some interest and someone would like to host the map I'll send them the files. Looking at a 12-16MB .tga as of right now.

Yes I'm aware of all the good user contributed content. I've played it all plenty of times;). Something new, even if not exactly new, should be fun for a little while...

hopefully gandalf or arryn will host them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
just publish the map as you said new stuff is always nice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
and your map seems to be especially nice for sp like the faerun maps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

DeathDaemon August 18th, 2004 01:34 AM

Re: Make a Ultima map for Dominions II!
 
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Having fun with with the ultima vii map... I have attached a low quality 320k screenshot in map editor. Anyone interested? It's a little red at places, but other than that I think it's rather colorful and plays interestingly with the moongates providing quick access to most of the map.

And as I'm dreaming of a SP mod with Ultima enemies, especially the sea nations and bosses, a mercenary group of Pirates shows up! That's exactly what I need heh, and to think I don't ever remember seeing them before. Too strange.


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