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David E. Gervais August 16th, 2004 11:56 AM

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First, a picture to help me describe my encounter..

http://69.56.133.54:81/threads/uploa...OEncounter.jpg

Way, way back around 1974, at around 10pm I was walking home accross the bay on a road the curves around the far end of the natural bay here in my home town. I was looking out accross the water when a strange movement caught my eye. I saw a streak of light kind of like a shooting star,(1) but it suddenly stopped and hovered.(2) I did a double take, what? then as my eyes focused on the object I noticed it was kind of oval and ever so slightly wobbeling slowly from side to side as it hovered. in the blink of an eye it moved down and to the left (3) hovered again for a few seconds then zipped again down and to the right.(4) I knew this was something strange, and quickly glanced around to see if anyone else was around to witness the strange object. As I turned back to watch the object it jumped again to the lower left.(5) This time I had a noticible clue to the distance it was from me, I saw it's reflection on the water and the trees on the edge of an island at the mouth of the bay were illuminated. Then as fast as it arrived, it zoomed upwards angled to the right and dissapeared.(6) I scanned the sky for any other movement and saw nothing. A very strange event for a 14 year old boy.

What was it? I don't know. The next day I asked my friends if any of them saw anything, they didn't and of course they could not pass up the opportunity to make fun of me, but I know I did see something that night. Even to this day the memory of what I saw is still clear as the day it happened.

This is my one and only UFO encounter. was it 'Alien'? perhaps. But all I can say is that it really is 'Unidentified' so it qualifies as a genuine UFO in my books.

So, now that you all know I really AM crazy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Have any of you seen strange things in the night sky? Do you have any stories that you would like to share?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

FLX August 16th, 2004 12:24 PM

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OMG http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif the Eee are coming!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
I've heard some simillar stories and most of them had a logical explanation. Maybe one of them could suit here... Was there a road climbing up and down hills near the coast? was it a litle cloudy? Sometimes, the lights of the cars reflexes on the clouds, and if the car heads a little up or down, the shinig spot seems to moove very fast http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif .
Anyway, the truth is out there

primitive August 16th, 2004 12:59 PM

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Hmmm....
I too have some strange memories from the 70s. Lots of chemichals around in those days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PvK August 16th, 2004 01:15 PM

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Was it clearly a physical object rather than potentially a projection (e.g., reflection of spotlight)?

I have seen a few UFO's - sudden flashes zooming overhead - my best guess was generally meteors, but they certainly made me stop and wonder.

PvK

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro August 16th, 2004 05:33 PM

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I have an Identified Flying Object story. It can't compare to strangeness to yours but it makes me think about all the practical jokers out there. About 4 years ago I had a job delivering papers in the wee hours. I could just feel something over head, a faint noise of wind? I don't know but I looked up and didn't see anything. Looked up again a few seconds later and this blimp was there and the pilot turned on this really bright light inside the balloon area illumiating the blimp from within and fired up his engines. Why was I being stalked by a blimp at nighttime? Anyway there was no advertising on the side and I never saw it during the day and my friends had ever seen a blank blimp during their daily activities. Kinda get the feeling they were using me to test how sneaky a blimp could be and for what nefarious reasons. I could best describe it as looking like the "Fuji" blimp but with no advertising.
I believe in otherworldly craft, but look for support or validation in the wrong group you can sure bring out the wacko's. I'm jealous! I wanna see one!

Atrocities August 16th, 2004 06:40 PM

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David, LMAO.... Good one.

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I saw a real life UFO. I was down in this cannon camping with friends, and we all looked up and saw the UFO. It was a bigg'in too. It had two yellowish lights in the front, and a whole mess of em on the top part. It made such a thunders sound we all though God himself was come back to Earth to exact his holly revenge upon whicked and unfaithful.

(About six minutes later God passed us in his 1978 Ford F150 Hiboy with his light bar on, and no exhougst pipes. We were in awe.)

It occured to us, as we all sat their drinking our beer, that we was in a canyon, and to get into the canyon, you have to drive down this long narrow windy *** gravel road. Duhrrrrrrrr. "Here's your sign." - Mine read: "Beer Makes You Stupid."


mac5732 August 16th, 2004 11:39 PM

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Now you've done it... The black limos, the black helicopters and those real men in black will now be lurking here on our forum.... Oh me oh my, what shall we do,

PS. I myself have seen some strange things while I was in the service that were unexplainable, one time back in 1967, we had a slew of them over our base as well as the city next to it, it was in all the papers, I myself did see some things. But I do have a story to tell, and from what I understand it is written in a UFO investigative center somewhere, can't remember where... I will post it in another post here as it is quite lone.

mac5732 August 17th, 2004 12:01 AM

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Back in the 70's, I think it was in 72 or 73, I was working night shift, when my partner and I got a call to respond to an area in our town in regards to a female reports a UFO landing. When we arrived we met a 20 yr old female who stated that she had seen a UFO at that location and that it had landed somewhere behind some woods. We said, Ya right lady, however, about 10-15 mins. later, we received another call to respond to an address about half mile further down the road in regards to 2 women claiming that something was destroying their home. When we arrived, we met 2 older women who were scared to death, white as ghosts and shaking like a leaf, (this was around 2am). They stated that they had been up watching TV when they saw a very large hairy creature, staring at them thru their window, they described it as being close to 8' tall, covered in hair, walked upright and it scared them. They stated they heard it pulling stuff off their house. Well, after we calmed them down, we checked the outside of the home, What we found stunned and surprised us. We found that all the window shutters had been pulled off the house and thrown on the ground. Now these were old time shutters, a goo 2" thick heavy wood installed with wooden spikes, they were ripped right off, in addition, all the tree limbs next to the house were broken off up to a little over 8' high. AND, we found a very strange footprint in the soft dirt. We measured it and it was over 20" long and 8" wide. It had 3 toes and 2 large bulges on the sides.We also found some hair and blood on one of the shutters which we took for analysis. Well we followed the apparent direction this supposedly thing took until we came into the heavy wooded area, where, We heard a strange growling like sound, and saw a pair of reddish yellow eyes staring at us. Being the brave fellows we were, we of course decided to head back to the house and check on the ladies. Over the course of the next several hours we received numerous calls of peoples animals going crazy, barking and running around like they were crazy. Then we received another call from a home on a street just down the road but in the opposite direction of our initial call. They reported their garage being destroyed. When we arrived we found that the back of the garage had been torn completly out. It had been ripped open from the outside. The owners also reported that their animals woke them up going crazy, running around the house, barking etc. Well we received so many calls, we started to compute the times etc, and they all matched the time around the initial reported landing. Well, because of all the damage and complaints, a search party was organized and we as well as about 30 others searched the area in question. We found (hard to describe in writing) paths thru the woods where the weeds etc, had been like rolled to each side like waves, after following the paths, we found a very large burned out area a field surrounded by trees where all the grass and weeds had been burned off, In addition we found 3 indentations into the ground spaced like a triange what looked like what could have been landing legs. Well the papers got a hold of it, and the next day, 2 officers from the USAF operation Blue Book appeared and told our boss that what was seen was a satalite that came down in the Med. however, all our reports , logs etc were taken by them including our fur and blood samples. there is more, but I don't want to put anymore of it in writing... Big Brother is still Watching... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif from what I was later told, this was posted in a UFO research location and is on record with them (as well as the good old US gov.)

PS. The 2 ladies, left the home that night while we were there, never returned, put the house up for sale and moved.

This is a true story

Kamog August 17th, 2004 12:55 AM

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Wow, thank you for posting that very scary and fascinating story. I'm not sure I'll be able to sleep tonight after reading that ... I think I'll leave the lights on when I go to bed.

You just wonder what is really going on out there, and how much does the government know that they're covering up? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

Raging Deadstar August 17th, 2004 06:07 AM

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mac5732 said:
they described it as being close to 8' tall, covered in hair, walked upright and it scared them.

And thus Primitive became a national Celbrity http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Thats a rather interesting story Mac, Sasquatches in space it seems. Very dam weird. I have to ask you one thing Mac, when you decided to follow this thing were you armed or not? Because if you weren't you are the bravest guy i know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

What i really find strange about all the alien stories people here about is the fact that they somehow travel to earth and then start destroying property and acting like, with no offence to Major Primitive, a barbarian http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Kamog said:
You just wonder what is really going on out there, and how much does the government know that they're covering up? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

With the current administration i'd say they probably know absoloutely nothing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Would you trust Bush with information on aliens? But there's definitely something creepy going on out there

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro August 17th, 2004 01:04 PM

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I don't think we'll ever hear anything official from our government about visiting spacecraft, their occupants, and how involved we already are. Well maybe someday in the future. But I agree with the reasons why. Just look how angry we get about who to vote for, abortion, military intervention, religion. Sometimes these issues bring us to each other throats. Somtimes these issues make us kill one another. Can you imagine the freak out potential if the general public is told we are being visited, and have been visited for many years by people from another solar system. You or I may think it's cool and welcome such news but what about the guy talking to himself at the bus stop, or the crazy eyed jihad dude with a bomb in his pants?
Earthers just aren't ready....yet!


I'm the Uncle Tom of our Alien Overlords!

TerranC August 17th, 2004 09:35 PM

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You people are all crazy; everyone knows there are no such things such as UFOs.

Everybody knows that they are merely flying space cows.

Fyron August 17th, 2004 09:44 PM

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With plasma udders!

Raging Deadstar August 17th, 2004 09:51 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
With plasma udders!

And thats why some people are Lactose Intolerant http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

mac5732 August 17th, 2004 11:33 PM

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RD, yes we were armed, however, didn't make a difference to us, we just decided to go back and check on the ladies instead of going into those woods at 2am....

Did you ever wonder just where we got all this stealth tech and some of the other high tech stuff we have? Do we have better scientists then everyone else? hmmmm. They not only have stealth planes but also stealth warships, tho that has not had a lot of publicity. The ship was out way before the planes....

I really don't think the people would go that ballistic if we found another alien race, UFO's etc have been around so long most people would be normal as usual, sceptical, curious, afraid, non believing, and excited. However, there would always be the nut cases and those who just can't face something strange...

But no way is the gov telling us poor folks the whole story, look at area 51 and how secret thats been for all these years and don't think thats the only ultra secret base we have..... You never put all your eggs in one basket.

Suicide Junkie August 18th, 2004 01:33 AM

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Lactose Intolerant people are the only humans left unmodified by the space cows. Count yourself lucky, for when the cows come for us, you will be spared from slave labour on the farming asteroids.

narf poit chez BOOM August 18th, 2004 02:29 AM

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The trouble with UFO's is that there is only stories and blury pictures. The facts cannot be evaluated. You could say there is no hard evidence, but if there was, the government or another agency grabbing it is entirely beleivable. So, we are left with stories and crop circles. Never having seen any of the latter except in pictures, I can't comment. Sure, some of those could be pranks. And then, there is the stories of crop circles where the crops have been bent, not broken, as would happen if someone walked accross them. As I said, have not seen any except in pictures.

DeadZone August 18th, 2004 09:14 AM

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Do note, crop circles have also been around for centuries
http://www.alien-ufos.com/cropcirclesinformation.shtml


And UFOs have been reported before man developed flight
http://ufos.about.com/od/ancientastr...a/aa081504.htm

its even been said that UFOs have been seen just before some of mans prolific battles
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

Saber Cherry August 18th, 2004 06:43 PM

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Did you wear contacts in 1974? The jerky path you describe (zoom, hover, zoom, hover) is quite similar to what one would expect from "search" eye motion, or a contact lens recentering itself from such motion. So if, say, this was an ocean bay with phosphorescent plankton, and a plankton blew into your eye and stuck to your contact lens, such a pattern would be not only possible, but expected.

Other possibilities include a semidetached retina (minor retinal damage can cause strange flashies, and yet still repair itself), neural disorders (brain tumors and bloodflow irregularities can cause such visual anomalies), or phosphorescent bacteria actually living inside your eyeball, not to mention a viral optic nerve infection.

Astronauts in orbit have been noted to see gigantic lightning displays in the upper atmosphere, where no such electrical activity has been noted through other means (e.g., ground-based observations or instrumental detection). Such sightings have been attributed to cosmic rays directly stimulating the optic nerves. Of course, such sightings also tend to be a single short-lived blotch rather than a longer-duration zigzag.

Well, other than those, and perhaps the possibility of 9 independant meteorites (5 moving perpendicularly to yourself, and 4 moving directly toward you so as to appear stationary) or the Brownian motion of a very small, very bright meteorite... ok, I'm kidding about that one, but perhaps it could be the Cerenkov radiation of a hitherto-unknown hyper-lightspeed massive particle buffeted by weakly-interacting dark matter? That's what I'm betting on...

At any rate, these are all highly plausible scenarios, and it should put your mind at ease that there are so many common, natural phenomena that can explain what you saw, without resorting to crazy sci-fi mumbo-jumbo about UFO's and the light of Venus refracting off swamp gas.

Raging Deadstar August 18th, 2004 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Saber Cherry said:
Did you wear contacts in 1974? The jerky path you describe (zoom, hover, zoom, hover) is quite similar to what one would expect from "search" eye motion, or a contact lens recentering itself from such motion. So if, say, this was an ocean bay with phosphorescent plankton, and a plankton blew into your eye and stuck to your contact lens, such a pattern would be not only possible, but expected.

Other possibilities include a semidetached retina (minor retinal damage can cause strange flashies, and yet still repair itself), neural disorders (brain tumors and bloodflow irregularities can cause such visual anomalies), or phosphorescent bacteria actually living inside your eyeball, not to mention a viral optic nerve infection.

Astronauts in orbit have been noted to see gigantic lightning displays in the upper atmosphere, where no such electrical activity has been noted through other means (e.g., ground-based observations or instrumental detection). Such sightings have been attributed to cosmic rays directly stimulating the optic nerves. Of course, such sightings also tend to be a single short-lived blotch rather than a longer-duration zigzag.

Well, other than those, and perhaps the possibility of 9 independant meteorites (5 moving perpendicularly to yourself, and 4 moving directly toward you so as to appear stationary) or the Brownian motion of a very small, very bright meteorite... ok, I'm kidding about that one, but perhaps it could be the Cerenkov radiation of a hitherto-unknown hyper-lightspeed massive particle buffeted by weakly-interacting dark matter? That's what I'm betting on...

At any rate, these are all highly plausible scenarios, and it should put your mind at ease that there are so many common, natural phenomena that can explain what you saw, without resorting to crazy sci-fi mumbo-jumbo about UFO's and the light of Venus refracting off swamp gas.

Ok...Now thats Crazy Talk, give me space cows anyday! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

David E. Gervais August 18th, 2004 07:35 PM

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I didn't wear contact lenses. (never have) the bay is on the Saint-Lawrence river. (no plancton, especially the glowing kind.) It was a clear night, the kind of clear night that does not exist anymore thanks to modern industrial society. I remember very clearly what I saw, I'll be replaying and analizing this memory for the rest of my life. current theory on what I saw? either a firefly (which does not exist in my neck of the woods) or a mysterious object that defied known principles of aerodynamics. hmmm, since fireflies do exist 'elsewhere' on this planet (or so I've been told) the first theory has slightly more merit. But I believe that what I saw was truely "Unidentified", and as to it's "flying" well if it defied the known laws of aerodynamics then it can be agrued that it was not actually "Flying" so with this in mind it might be more accurate to say I saw an "Unidentified Moving Object" Althought all the movement I saw did take place in the sky above the mouth of the bay. The fact that at it's lowest point I also saw it's reflection on the water of the bay as well as the trees on the edge of the island get 'illuminated' kind of supports the fact that this object was indeed 'airborn'... Final analisis = I saw a UFO, yup I did, difinately did. I cannot confirm it being of "Alien" (extraterrestrial) origin however and therefore simply say "It was, what it was. Brief in appearance and everLasting in my mind, forever my own private memory that even when shared remains unbelievable."

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

P.S. it looked alot like that thing in the madonna painting.
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufomadonna2.jpg

Captain Kwok August 18th, 2004 08:04 PM

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Thanks for sharing your story David. It is interesting to say the least. By the way, do you get the Space channel? They had a great series of documentaries about UFOs and the different amateur/"professional" organizations that cover them. It was on Saturdays for a few weeks in a row a month ago.

gregebowman August 23rd, 2004 06:33 PM

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I had a UFO experience. It happened while I was camping with my troop of Boy Scouts sometime in the mid-70's. A bunch of us were taking a walk at night when someone noticed what looked like a satellite crossing the sky. It was a solid dot, like what you would see if you did observe a satellite. However, as it approached the horizon, it did a 90 degree turn and travelled horizontal to the ground. We watched it go until it traveled out of our sight. It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen, and have never seen anything like that since. Was it a UFO? Who knows, but it almost made a believer out of me. But I'm more Scully than Mulder. I'll have to see it, hear it, touch it and taste it before I'll believe. But I do hope we're not alone in the cosmos.

AMF August 23rd, 2004 09:56 PM

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Crop circles were totally debunked many years ago. It was a couple of guys pulling pranks at night in rural england for kicks. I'll dig up some links later...

Kamog August 23rd, 2004 10:01 PM

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Well, guys pulling a prank is the simplest and also the most likely explaination for crop circles... [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon27.gif[/img]

narf poit chez BOOM August 24th, 2004 01:55 AM

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alarikf said:
Crop circles were totally debunked many years ago. It was a couple of guys pulling pranks at night in rural england for kicks. I'll dig up some links later...

Weren't there reported crop circles outside of england?

Ruatha August 24th, 2004 02:58 AM

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mac5732 said:
Did you ever wonder just where we got all this stealth tech and some of the other high tech stuff we have? Do we have better scientists then everyone else? hmmmm. They not only have stealth planes but also stealth warships, tho that has not had a lot of publicity. The ship was out way before the planes....

Stealth isn't all that difficult, hey even we in Sweden are building stelth boaths and subs, they're up for export if you can afford them.
Our jet fighters aren't stealth but darned good anyway.. Buy one of these aswell when you're at it! (We're building more than we need(!))

Renegade 13 August 24th, 2004 11:24 AM

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narf poit chez BOOM said:
Weren't there reported crop circles outside of england?

Yes there were. As a matter of fact, there were a few crop circles in a town about 30 km from where I live a few years ago. In some grain fields in the town of Vanderhoof, British Columbia, Canada, crop circles very similar in form to the British ones were discovered. You can't convince me that a few pranksters from Britain travelled 4000 miles to western Canada just to create a few crop circles. Then again, maybe someone else figured out how to make them, who really knows?

AMF August 24th, 2004 11:53 AM

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Copycats - all it takes is a board and some rope...and you're famous in a twisted anonymous way. Lots of people get off on that sort of thing. Heck, I know I did when I was a kid - used to mess all sorts of things up...

EDIT: here's a fun one to check out:

www.circlemakers.org

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Renegade 13 said:
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narf poit chez BOOM said:
Weren't there reported crop circles outside of england?

Yes there were. As a matter of fact, there were a few crop circles in a town about 30 km from where I live a few years ago. In some grain fields in the town of Vanderhoof, British Columbia, Canada, crop circles very similar in form to the British ones were discovered. You can't convince me that a few pranksters from Britain travelled 4000 miles to western Canada just to create a few crop circles. Then again, maybe someone else figured out how to make them, who really knows?


Raging Deadstar August 24th, 2004 12:08 PM

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I should have noted it down but that old UFO mystery of Russia in 1908 (The suspected asteroid/meteroite/comet fragment/alien spaceship impact) was back up on New Scientist yesterday. Some person claiming they had found proof the object was of Extra Terrestial Origin. If i find the link i'll edit this post so you can all speculate and start debating

DeadZone August 24th, 2004 01:07 PM

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alarikf said:
Crop circles were totally debunked many years ago. It was a couple of guys pulling pranks at night in rural england for kicks. I'll dig up some links later...

I find it hard to believe someone knew how to do that back in 1678

Nowadays, quite easily to be done seeing as how we think has vastly changed since then

Anyhow, heres something that I know many people dont discuss
These "UFOs" are always thought to be of another world, with the government saying its from our world
But wot if the government is right? But they are just not from our time (remember the fact that some UFOs have been sighted in famous times)

geoschmo August 24th, 2004 02:14 PM

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DeadZoneMDx said:
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alarikf said:
Crop circles were totally debunked many years ago. It was a couple of guys pulling pranks at night in rural england for kicks. I'll dig up some links later...

I find it hard to believe someone knew how to do that back in 1678


They had rope and sticks back then. All you'd need was someone with a little bit of time on their hands to think up the idea. People are people and have always pulled pranks on each other. Of course back then people pulled pranks and the masses blamed it on evil spirits, or leprechauns. It must be UFO's, because we are all much too rational to believe in evil spirits or leprechauns anymore. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Gandalf Parker August 24th, 2004 02:28 PM

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alarikf said:
Copycats - all it takes is a board and some rope...and you're famous in a twisted anonymous way. Lots of people get off on that sort of thing. Heck, I know I did when I was a kid - used to mess all sorts of things up...

A lot of people make fake money. Its pretty close, fools a lot of people, then something really tiny is spotted which makes it a fake. That doesnt make me consider all money a fake, especially the ones without the little tell-tales of fakeness. It does make me think that any money I see MIGHT be a fake and hsould maybe be checked out.

Fanaticism is always bad. In this case I would have to say that both extreme belief and extreme disbelief is probably too early to be preaching it.

AMF August 24th, 2004 03:42 PM

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But extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. And scepticism coupled with the scientific method is
the essential foundation for scientific progress - and is the only real bulwark we humans have against our irrational urges to believe all sorts of wacky things.

That is why Mulder was always wrong in the X-Files. When a person "wants to beleive" something, then their claims that something extraordinary is true are a lot harder to swallow, since they don't generally hold their theses to rigorous standards of proof.

Ok, I'm trying to get off my soapbox.

Oh, one Last thing: Yay for James Randi!

Alarik

EDIT: like a total stoopid head, I wrote "uri geller" when I meant "james randi" - polar opposites. I had a brain fart.


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Gandalf Parker said:
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alarikf said:
Copycats - all it takes is a board and some rope...and you're famous in a twisted anonymous way. Lots of people get off on that sort of thing. Heck, I know I did when I was a kid - used to mess all sorts of things up...

A lot of people make fake money. Its pretty close, fools a lot of people, then something really tiny is spotted which makes it a fake. That doesnt make me consider all money a fake, especially the ones without the little tell-tales of fakeness. It does make me think that any money I see MIGHT be a fake and hsould maybe be checked out.

Fanaticism is always bad. In this case I would have to say that both extreme belief and extreme disbelief is probably too early to be preaching it.


Kamog August 24th, 2004 10:28 PM

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I have read Uri Geller's autobiography. He said that he was contacted by aliens when he was a little boy, and they gave him his psychic abilities.

Raging Deadstar August 24th, 2004 10:37 PM

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Kamog said:
I have read Uri Geller's autobiography. He said that he was contacted by aliens when he was a little boy, and they gave him his psychic abilities.

Well, I shall remind myself never to arm my Armies with spoons to stop an alien invasion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'd file that one under "Failed Experiments" myself.

AMF August 24th, 2004 11:39 PM

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Doh! I meant James Randi.

Sorry. Brain fart.

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Kamog said:
I have read Uri Geller's autobiography. He said that he was contacted by aliens when he was a little boy, and they gave him his psychic abilities.


Wardad August 25th, 2004 07:51 PM

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primitive said:
Hmmm....
I too have some strange memories from the 70s. Lots of chemichals around in those days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

you have memories???


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