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Thufir August 26th, 2004 03:25 PM

MP Game - Casual Carnage (noob/int game) - running
 
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Sheap has graciously offered to host a game that includes a mod, and I'm thinking a game including Graeme's Moloch Coward Fix mod is in order (MolochCowardFix.dm). <img src="http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif" alt="" />

Now this will be twice in a row that I've been selfish in staking out a position, but I've been dying to try out Moloch with Abysia, and unless there's strenuous objection, I'd like to do that (of course everyone will be free to use the Moloch, which will be stripped of its Imps by the mod). Here's my proposal for game specs:

Karan map, Indy 9, magic sites 50
renaming enabled, HOF 15
25 hour quickhost
6-8 players
no house rules


I think we'll all need to load Graeme's mod, so I'll attach it to this post. Sheap will give us an IP and port, once we've all agreed to the players and game spec.

Anyone game?


- Thufir


Edit-

Current Player List:

Caelum - Boron - BF ID (Boron)
Mictlan - YellowCactus
Pangaea - Aku - BF ID (Aku)
Abysia - Thufir - BF ID (Thufir)
Jotunheim - Galadin - BF ID (Galadin)
C'tis - Lepakko - BF ID (Lepakko)
Vanheim - Lex - BF ID (LexLuther)
Tien Chi - Deccan - BF ID (Deccan)

Aku August 26th, 2004 03:30 PM

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hey thufir,

can i claim pangaea? i want to give them a try in mp

Thufir August 26th, 2004 03:33 PM

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Aku said:
can i claim pangaea? i want to give them a try in mp


Sure thing - at Last you can get in as Pangaea! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Boron August 26th, 2004 03:34 PM

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i join too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

if you decide not to take abysia i would like to claim them .

as it is i claim caelum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
if this nation is excluded i claim pythium instead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Thufir August 26th, 2004 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Boron said:
i join too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

if you decide not to take abysia i would like to claim them .

as it is i claim caelum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
if this nation is excluded i claim pythium instead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

No exclusions - unless your username is Boron, in which case only T'ien Chi Barbarian Kings is permitted.

OK, bad joke, I'm sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

If you don't mind, I'll stick to Abysia - in which case Caelum is yours http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Boron August 26th, 2004 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Thufir said:
Quote:

Boron said:
i join too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

if you decide not to take abysia i would like to claim them .

as it is i claim caelum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
if this nation is excluded i claim pythium instead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

No exclusions - unless your username is Boron, in which case only T'ien Chi Barbarian Kings is permitted.

OK, bad joke, I'm sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

If you don't mind, I'll stick to Abysia - in which case Caelum is yours http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

ok perfect http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

research is normal i hope http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

i asked with abysia because i planned a good strat for them in the Last days and wanted to try out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

may i guess what your pretender is ?
was it influenced from the recent pretender discussion ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

try 1 :
scorpion king with E9F9
try 2 :
vq

i will take with caelum probably a virtue , a vq or a pod .

Aku August 26th, 2004 04:57 PM

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i think thufir is going to try the moloch with the no imps mod

Boron August 26th, 2004 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Aku said:
i think thufir is going to try the moloch with the no imps mod

oh yeah he even writes it hm i am dumb hehe [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif

Galadin August 26th, 2004 05:56 PM

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I am brand new, (n00b) to this game. Just got the title yesterday and spent 5 hours playing it straight. Anyway, if there are any slots open, I would like to play.

YellowCactus August 26th, 2004 06:07 PM

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I'm IN! Mitlan
-YellowCactus!

Thufir August 26th, 2004 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Aku said:
i think thufir is going to try the moloch with the no imps mod

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Could be sub-optimal, but I don't think you can get any more thematic than Abysia + Moloch

Thufir August 26th, 2004 07:23 PM

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Quote:

YellowCactus said:
I'm IN! Mitlan
-YellowCactus!

Great!

So, we've got:

Caelum - Boron
Mictlan - YellowCactus
Pangaea - Aku
Abysia - Thufir
??? - Galadin

Thufir August 26th, 2004 07:30 PM

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Galadin said:
I am brand new, (n00b) to this game. Just got the title yesterday and spent 5 hours playing it straight. Anyway, if there are any slots open, I would like to play.

Great! But just tell us which nation you would like to play (as mentioned above Caelum, Mictlan, Pangaea and Abysia are already taken). We're closing in our 8 players pretty quickly, so I'm hoping we can all upload our pretenders and start the game by tomorrow. I'd suggest you use whatever time you have to try out a Pretender setup for the nation you're trying out.

In the opening in game it's mostly about taking the independent provinces (or indies), as quickly as possible, and that's one thing you can practice in SP that carries over perfectly well to MP. You should probably try a game using the same setup we're going to use in the game, as describe in my initial post, and most importantly use the same indy strength (8). IMO, you get the most bang for the buck by testing a given pretender setup for the first 10-15 turns.

deccan August 26th, 2004 08:05 PM

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How big is the download for the Karan map? I'm tempted to join this one too but I wonder if I'll have the time to download the map and think up a new pretender.

Thufir August 26th, 2004 08:11 PM

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Quote:

deccan said:
How big is the download for the Karan map? I'm tempted to join this one too but I wonder if I'll have the time to download the map and think up a new pretender.

The map is a 3.4mb download, and I got it off Arryn's site:
http://www.dominions-2.org

Be sure to get Targa's corrections, as well, which are also on Arryn's site.

PrinzMegaherz August 27th, 2004 04:27 AM

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Having lost my pretender at turn 1 definitly qualifies me for a noob game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Caelum is mine
I hereby declare war upon you!

Edit
Uhm, caelum is already in use?
Never mind, Arco it shall be!

Lepakko August 27th, 2004 04:57 AM

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Hi Hi hii ones more i ask coud we make it ladder game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Thufir August 27th, 2004 05:18 AM

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Lepakko said:
Hi Hi hii ones more i ask coud we make it ladder game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

You know me by now, Lepakko - I'm happy to make this a ladder game, if no one objects. I'll do the post on Battlefield pointing at this thread tomorrow.

For those that don't know what Lepakko is talking about, Battlefield.com maintains a section devoted to Dominions2, including maintaining a ladder for players competing in Dom2. Theoretically this means all players in this game should be registered on the Battlefield site, but I don't think that's particularly urgent.

Here's some links for the Battlefield site:
The Battlefield is at:
http://www.the-battlefield.com
Battlefield Dom2 Page:
http://www.the-battlefield.com/index...&game=dom2
Battlefield Dom2 Forum:
http://www.the-battlefield.com/forum...p?showforum=27


Here's our current player list:

Caelum - Boron
Mictlan - YellowCactus
Pangaea - Aku
Abysia - Thufir
Arco- PrinceMegaherz
??? - Galadin
??? - Lepakko

Assuming both Galadin and Lepakko are in, that leaves us with 7 players, which will be enough to start with. I'll PM Sheap tomorrow (Friday), and hopefully we can get this game started by tomorrow night.

Lepakko August 27th, 2004 05:42 AM

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I think i up load my god tomorrow

i think i take cris, csig, crish, cirt, crit or what hell is the lizard nation

i never get abysians damn you Thufir!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif (joking)

Lex August 27th, 2004 07:29 AM

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I'm about to get the snot wiped from my *** in what was my first MP, so I guess its safe to now start a new MP. If you don't mind having 8 players in this game?

To make things right, I think I need to play Vanheim again in a comparable setting like this, just to make up for the blunders I've made in said earlier game (Note To The Wise: Don't play Midguard unless you know what you're doing! Which I don't, so I'll be playing Standard theme.. and might try the Moloch, but gotta run now and play "WinXP Fixit Man" for my GF... I'll upload a pretender by tonight (its 6:30am right now..).

Galadin August 27th, 2004 11:17 AM

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Let me try go with Jotunheim for this first game. I hope to put up a decent fight at least.

Thufir August 27th, 2004 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Lepakko said:
i never get abysians damn you Thufir!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif

I'm afraid to play you, as Abysia, Lepakko http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Thufir August 27th, 2004 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Lex said:
I'm about to get the snot wiped from my *** in what was my first MP, so I guess its safe to now start a new MP. If you don't mind having 8 players in this game?


8 is perfect - you're in!

Here's our player list:
Caelum - Boron
Mictlan - YellowCactus
Pangaea - Aku
Abysia - Thufir
Arco- PrinceMegaherz
Jotunheim - Galadin
C'tis - Lepakko
Vanheim - Lex


I'll see about getting us an IP/port

Boron August 27th, 2004 01:54 PM

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perfect http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
doing fine tuning for my god / strat at the moment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

hopefully at least half of the things i have in theory work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
at least it was this way in my few games i played / am playing so far http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

hmmm too bad lex is vanheim http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
will be a hard race who gets the airqueens http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif

Sheap August 27th, 2004 03:15 PM

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Wooten deeten dooten dooten deeten dooten doot.

The server is now up at:
benatar.snurgle.org
port 2005
Game is "CasualCarnage"

If for any reason you have trouble with the host name, the IP is 24.8.118.21. But use the name, as the IP may eventually change.

Thufir August 27th, 2004 03:29 PM

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Quote:

Sheap said:
Wooten deeten dooten dooten deeten dooten doot.

The server is now up at:
benatar.snurgle.org
port 2005
Game is "CasualCarnage"

If for any reason you have trouble with the host name, the IP is 24.8.118.21. But use the name, as the IP may eventually change.


Awesome - this is great Sheap!

I have one question (that anyone knowledgeable may be able to answer), if you've uploaded your pretender once, is there any way to re-upload without a manual intervertion of the guy running the server?

I'd guess not, just based on the fact that we always go through the step of making someone anonymous on mosehansen, and use the web interface to do that, but I just had to ask.


Assuming the answer to the above is "no", everyone be careful with your uploads, and remember to put a password on them (if you are so inclined). It'd be nice to get this right on the first shot http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Also, let me start the game - with luck I'll be able to do that before tonight. Hurrah!

Sheap August 27th, 2004 04:20 PM

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Sure, just make your new pretender, re-connect and do the upload, it'll work fine.

That said: everyone please do remember your passwords. Most games that I've hosted have had to be restarted, but if everyone uploads the right god and remembers the password, we won't have to, which would be a real treat.

Boron August 27th, 2004 04:31 PM

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great sheep http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

uploaded my pretender lets see how it turns out .
my pretender is very excentric at least http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Lepakko August 27th, 2004 06:32 PM

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i will upload my god 18:00 GTM. then we can start.

Sheap August 27th, 2004 08:32 PM

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Only 3 of the 8 players have uploaded so far...

Thufir August 27th, 2004 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Sheap said:
Only 3 of the 8 players have uploaded so far...

Yep - I'm not sure what timezone everyone is in, so I don't know when we'll all be uploaded. I was hoping by tonight, PDT, but we'll see. Lepakko said 1800 GMT, which I think translates to 1100 PDT, so maybe he means Saturday?

Anyhow, do you have to be the one to start the game, or can you set it to client start? If so, I can watch the thread, check the uploads, and start it when we're all on board.

Lex August 27th, 2004 09:19 PM

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Quote:

Boron said:
hmmm too bad lex is vanheim http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
will be a hard race who gets the airqueens http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif

i hope you didn't think I'd make this easy for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Actually, I've found that in theory a well played Vanheim should counter a well played Caelum. Likewise, Vanheim can also compliment Caelum extremely well. I must admit since I've started playing Dom, those are the two races that have captivated almost all my attention.

Sheap August 27th, 2004 09:25 PM

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I need to start it. It's better that way. I can set a master password, and make backups of the pretender files, and generally just make sure things go smoothly. I'm probably going to be on my PC all weekend unless I am sleeping so I do not think there is much time going to be lost waiting on me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Thufir August 27th, 2004 09:31 PM

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Quote:

Lex said:
I must admit since I've started playing Dom, those are the two races that have captivated almost all my attention.

And I must admit that I like the sound of Vanheim and Caelum being captivated with each other in the course of this game.

Thufir August 27th, 2004 10:00 PM

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Quote:

Sheap said:
I need to start it. It's better that way. I can set a master password, and make backups of the pretender files, and generally just make sure things go smoothly. I'm probably going to be on my PC all weekend unless I am sleeping so I do not think there is much time going to be lost waiting on me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'm sure not - well thanks again for hosting this Sheap - looks like we're getting a better deal even then what I first thought!

Boron August 27th, 2004 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Lex said:
Quote:

Boron said:
hmmm too bad lex is vanheim http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
will be a hard race who gets the airqueens http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif

i hope you didn't think I'd make this easy for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Actually, I've found that in theory a well played Vanheim should counter a well played Caelum. Likewise, Vanheim can also compliment Caelum extremely well. I must admit since I've started playing Dom, those are the two races that have captivated almost all my attention.

ermor + abysia have caught my most attention from the beginning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
vanheim i always hated http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
abysia is now my absolute favourite .
with caelum i have interesting ideas too .

with vanheim they are in general really cool but i have difficulties with their bad sitesearch abilities .

Thufir August 28th, 2004 12:39 AM

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What's going on - still only 3 uploads. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Get yer pretender up there and we'll get this thing going!

Aku August 28th, 2004 01:41 AM

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my computer has been down all day...end result landed up with me reformating =[

i will upload as soon as i can...i just finished getting all my windows updates right now and decided to check the forums

Aku August 28th, 2004 02:14 AM

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I am running into some difficulties...my eta to have my pretender loaded up may be 10:00 GMT -5:00. Sorry for the delay.

Thufir August 28th, 2004 02:27 AM

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Quote:

Aku said:
my computer has been down all day...end result landed up with me reformating =[


ouch!

Quote:


my eta to have my pretender loaded up may be 10:00 GMT -5:00.


That sounds fine - I take it you mean Sat morning, right? It'd be great if we could get this rolling early-ish on Saturday. I think Lepakko was talking about getting his pretender up about that time.

Lex August 28th, 2004 02:47 AM

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okay i'm uploaded!

d'you guys think we could try to get as many turns done this weekend as possible? considering its Indy9, it'll should be a slower expansion, so maybe we could blitz through as much as possible (i know that my first turn will take exactly 7.2 seconds to complete LOL) and then lay back and enjoy the "casual carnage" :p

Lex August 28th, 2004 03:02 AM

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umm, Thufir, you mentioned at the start that we're using a Moloch mod.. do we need to install that? if so, do you have the link? thanks!

Thufir August 28th, 2004 03:16 AM

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Quote:

Lex said:
umm, Thufir, you mentioned at the start that we're using a Moloch mod.. do we need to install that? if so, do you have the link? thanks!

Yes, it is necessary. I attached it to my initial post for this thread, so you can download it here. You'll see "attachment" in red letters near the top of my post, that's the link for the file.

As for knocking turns out this weekend - I'm all for that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif However, we'll see how the timezones work out. Lepakko at least is in Finland, so I guess he's 7-8 hrs ahead of me here in sunny California. For what it's worth I'll be around most of Saturday, but out for Sun afternoon/evening.

Lex August 28th, 2004 03:22 AM

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hmm.. lets see, its 2am (saturday morning) here in Toronto, Canada.. soooo

11pm FRI -- Thufir (California -8)
12am SAT -- Sheap (Colorado -7)
2am SAT -- Lex/Aku/YellowCactus (Toronto/New York/Florida -5)
8am SAT -- PrinzMegaherz (Germany +1)
9am SAT -- Lepakko (Finland +2)
6pm SAT -- deccan (Solomon Islands +11)

So i guess its gonna be pretty hard doing any sort of blitz on the first few turns.. ah well..

deccan August 28th, 2004 04:02 AM

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Hmm, according to Thufir's latest player list, I'm not in.

Caelum - Boron
Mictlan - YellowCactus
Pangaea - Aku
Abysia - Thufir
Arco- PrinceMegaherz
Jotunheim - Galadin
C'tis - Lepakko
Vanheim - Lex

I don't mind being in if someone wants out, but it's a small map and Musical Chairs will be starting soon, so I can go either way.

Thufir August 28th, 2004 05:08 AM

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Quote:

deccan said:
Hmm, according to Thufir's latest player list, I'm not in.


I don't mind being in if someone wants out, but it's a small map and Musical Chairs will be starting soon, so I can go either way.

It's your call deccan, I saw your post in Musical chairs saying you were going into that game instead, so that's why I pulled you off our list. If you'd like to join our game I think it can handle 9.

- Thufir

Sheap August 28th, 2004 07:59 AM

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Quote:

Sheap said:
Sure, just make your new pretender, re-connect and do the upload, it'll work fine.

I'm starting to suspect this might be a lie.

Did you actually change your pretender? If so, could you send me a PM and attach the updated pretender file? Then I will know for sure whether it worked or not.

deccan August 28th, 2004 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Thufir said:
It's your call deccan, I saw your post in Musical chairs saying you were going into that game instead, so that's why I pulled you off our list. If you'd like to join our game I think it can handle 9.

- Thufir

Okay, okay. I need to get my Dom2 fix somewhere. I hate MP play. After you start it, SP seems a lot less satisfying. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Downloaded maps (I assume that you first copy in the contents of the first rar file and overwrite the second one over it?), downloaded mod, and uploaded pretender. Unfortunately, it still seems that most people have not uploaded pretenders yet. I guess that must mean they actually have a life.

Edit: Forgot to say that I'm in as Tien Chi.

PrinzMegaherz August 28th, 2004 12:48 PM

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I'm afraid I dont have time for another game.
Sorry to bother you :-(

Arco is free

Thufir August 28th, 2004 03:25 PM

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So right now we're at:

Caelum - Boron
Mictlan - YellowCactus
Pangaea - Aku
Abysia - Thufir
Jotunheim - Galadin
C'tis - Lepakko
Vanheim - Lex
Tien Chi - Deccan

We are waiting on YellowCactus, Aku and Lepakko to upload, before we can start


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