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Alneyan August 29th, 2004 09:57 AM

PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
I promise, I'll keep it short.

I am currently on a backup connection, which is 1) Unreliable 2) Slow 3) Not unlimited, meaning I am having a tough time playing my turns. I only get 50 hours a month, which is definitively not enough for me to play all my turns at PBW for a whole month. So I cannot technically play all my turns at PBW, and I am looking for permanent replacements for at least some of my games. Likewise, the situation is getting worse with every day and not better, without any kind of reliable ETA for the DSL (it should have been around August 20th. The year wasn't mentioned though, so nothing tells me it is to be set up in 2004).

The most important candidates begging for a new player are the following games:
- Adamant 013 and 014: A quick turnaround (36 hours), few players, modded game. You have a strong Empire in expansion, but both Empires can be altered quite a lot.
- Adamant 012: Turns are very quick to do (a few minutes without rushing), where the focus of my Empire is war. You have virtually no economy, but too many warships on your hands.
- Adamant 011: An Empire with a mighty economy, but an average military. Interesting for players who love economics and micromanaging (between half an hour and one hour without paying too much attention), or who have a grudge against Asmala (a war is going on with him, but there has been very little fighting).
- NGC4: A slower turnaround (72 hours), but a very big game to download. The turns themselves can go rather quickly since my Empire doesn't have the resources to build more stuff (maintenance alone is higher than income). You are fighting a suicidal war against Roanon, and your military is weak (albeit numerous).
- TGE3: The turnaround is of 60 hours, and the turns may take some time to do (not so much too; more or less half an hour on average, and possibly less if you cut down on my micromanaging). The Empire there is first, has a lot of potential, is wealthy and quite big, but has to pay attention to diplomacy to avoid being declared MEE. A nice game if you want a challenge of "You are the most powerful Empire in the galaxy, but can you keep this position?". If you are reading me Slynky, you will have to decide on whether this falls under RL reasons or not (the game went into enforced deadlines a few days ago).

These are my current games without ALPU where I feel I won't be able to keep on playing. Since I cannot stay Online for too long, I am also reluctant to ask for ALPU; it could go on for a few days needlessly. So I would prefer to find a replacement for the above games. If you are interested, please let me know so I can withdraw from the said game, and give you some information about what happened before.

If anybody has a better idea, feel free to point it out; I cannot figure out a way of making it work, and I have no other backup available for playing SEIV.

With my apologises for the hassle, and to the players in the games aforementioned,
Alneyan

Ed Kolis August 29th, 2004 05:59 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
You know you don't have to be Online to play your turns? Just download them, disconnect, play them, and connect to upload?

Aiken August 29th, 2004 06:04 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
Sad to hear that great player is leaving pbw.

Quote:

If anybody has a better idea, feel free to point it out; I cannot figure out a way of making it work, and I have no other backup available for playing SEIV.

All I can suggest is to ask GMs to synchronize their turn start/end time. Since all game's turn durations are divisible to 12h, you can choose the time when you can upload most of your turns at once.

But of course 50h per month is not enough even for downloading your turns.

I hope you'll be back one day. I had great plans about Nilesia Lavandel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

geoschmo August 29th, 2004 06:25 PM

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I am assuming the 50 hrs of access is from the DSL company? It's fairly standard for DSL companies to give you a certain number of hours of dialup access in addition to your DSL. The thing is if you explain to the the situation, that you are just waiting for their peopel to hook things up, they may cut you some slack and give you unlimited dialup until the highspeed line is hooked up. It can't hurt to ask anyway.

If not, maybe they don't have these in your area, but around here there are companies that offer free dialup internet access if you use their special browser that show you lots of banner ads. It's kind of a hassle for regular surfing cause it makes your available viewing area smaller, but if all you need is access to get your email it would work.

50 hours though really should be enough time to get download and upload turns. Unless you are in a LOT of games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

geoschmo August 29th, 2004 06:25 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
I am assuming the 50 hrs of access is from the DSL company? It's fairly standard for DSL companies to give you a certain number of hours of dialup access in addition to your DSL. The thing is if you explain to the the situation, that you are just waiting for their peopel to hook things up, they may cut you some slack and give you unlimited dialup until the highspeed line is hooked up. It can't hurt to ask anyway.

If not, maybe they don't have these in your area, but around here there are companies that offer free dialup internet access if you use their special browser that show you lots of banner ads. It's kind of a hassle for regular surfing cause it makes your available viewing area smaller, but if all you need is access to get your email it would work.

50 hours though really should be enough time to get download and upload turns. Unless you are in a LOT of games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

AMF August 29th, 2004 11:55 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
You're leaving TGE3 huh? Ugh. Hopefully you're replacement will be someone I can trust....

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Sorry to hear about all your trobule with connections. Seems unusual, but what do I know. Wish I could help.

Good luck!

Alarik

Alneyan August 31st, 2004 05:17 AM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
No, the 50 hours are from someone else, and so it will not be possible to negociate for more. DSL might get back Online soon, or perhaps not (since there has been no change in the state of the nether planes, I guess it won't work right away).

Yes, I have only been able to get back Online this morning. Grr. *Knocks on wood for luck*

I do all my turns offline Ed, but... Well, download speed isn't all so great, and some of the players play too quickly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif (I understand "too quickly" isn't a common complaint about a game)

se5a August 31st, 2004 05:27 AM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
I can do adamant 12.

se5a September 1st, 2004 04:34 PM

PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
bump! we need somone for adamant 14 and 11 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Alneyan September 1st, 2004 05:17 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
Adamant 11 would likely be a poisoned gift though. Adamant 14 is definitively a nice spot, as it is a small game with few players, and so a quick turnaround and turns that don't take a lot of time.

NGC4 is also begging for a new player; you are one of the top five Empires after all, and the galaxy is divided into a major war.

Roanon September 1st, 2004 05:41 PM

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If a replacement for NGC4 needs a few turns of consolidation before continuing the war in earnest, I'm sure we can arrange something. Would be sad if this war now is becoming too easy, right now it is looking ... interesting.

Aiken September 1st, 2004 05:54 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
Adamant 13 (magic) also needs a replacement player. Without Alneyan there will be 3 of 6 players left. Anybody?

Alneyan September 2nd, 2004 12:03 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
Well, my DSL seems to be more or less back Online. I will still have to catch up though, and PBW doesn't work here for the time being.

So I should be able to keep my current games, while leaving TGE3 and Adamant 012 to the replacing players (unless they really, really don't want to keep them) as I advertised for permanent replacements.

Roanon September 2nd, 2004 02:10 PM

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Great! Welcome back, Alneyan. Even if this means you will again make life tough for me in NGC4 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Alneyan September 2nd, 2004 02:44 PM

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No worries; PBW doesn't want to hear about me, and it isn't as if the Continuum was powerful. You have seen how great my warships are; behold the power of the DUC! On the other hand, numbers might be able to compensate outdated designs. Therefore, I would ask you to bring your whole fleet to a given system to meet my Dreadnot hordes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Roanon September 2nd, 2004 03:54 PM

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Never underestimate the power of DUCs! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif At least your ships shoot better than my mining facilities...

narf poit chez BOOM September 2nd, 2004 11:37 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
Especially flying DUCS of DEATH!

se5a September 3rd, 2004 02:49 AM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
oh cool, you can have 12 back, eather that or write me a ten page essay on the history of the blades in this particular galaxy :p
and why on earth as a magic race you havent reserched shields yet!!!!

seriosly im taking a little time to get into it, I havent played a magic race before, which makes it even harder to take over the empire. if you want it back your most welcome. if you REALY want to leave it to me ill need some more idea of your relations between the blades and the other empires and why you have the treatys (or lack of) that you do.

Alneyan September 3rd, 2004 05:20 AM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
I hate shields without a passion. So is the reason why I am not using them. Or rather, have you checked the Sparkle! line of ships, and its upgrade in Sparkling? They use armour for a very good reason, besides the one advertisted in their design type. They are here to do heavy minesweeping, which shields aren't going to perform well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif (The Eerie is used to detect hidden mines) On the other hand, it is true I never use shields much; in Adamant 011, non leaky armour seems to be good enough for my tastes.

Their history is quite simple actually:
- Meet Ed, Ed wants to fight, we fight for four years.
- Meet the other Empires, they don't want to fight, we don't fight for four years.
- The Brood is threatened with unconventional weaponry, and accepts to sign a truce under duress.
- The Blades, seeing that they have no economy whatsoever, and because they want to bring the fun of war to their friends, decide to declare war upon two other Empires.
- Two Empires are under AI rule, and so your only Empire you fight with is currently Georgig's. In the meantime, Fyron toys with the Brood. Beware of Fyron: he actually has an economy up and running, and an average fleet at his disposal.
- The Watering ships are used as a Last measure, in case someone gets really annoying. They were supposed to be more or less a secret, but everyone knows about them; after all, what use is a secret weapon if it is secret? Be careful with them though, as they can be taken down fairly easily, and do not have the kind of defences needed to achieve their missions.

In short, this game has been used to see the feasability of early attacks rather than a long-term economical development (which would be Adamant 011). Please do keep it, at least for the moment being: I have no access to PBW, and so cannot send any turn for now.

Oh, and be careful of what you wish for: you could very well get it. *Goes back to writing a twenty page lecture on the Blades, early warring and the importance of giving obscure names to warships*

se5a September 3rd, 2004 06:28 AM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
the worst thing is all the ships which I cant permanatly obsoliete because of tech changes...

if you want I can email you turns for adamant 14 and 11...
I supose your still not going to be able to upload them though. any idea why pbw isint working for you

edit: and if you dislike shileds, why didnt you go for organic as a race?

Alneyan September 3rd, 2004 05:28 PM

Re: PBW leave: looking for permanent replacements
 
My problem with PBW has been solved, so I can go back to playing as usual. Since it disappeared as quickly as it came, it is likely it will come back to haunt me though.

I did not pick an organic race for thematic reasons, as I have never been fond of such Empires. Nothing more than that really (Frigate is a much nicer name than, say, Lesser Cleaver after all. And a magical Empire can even get to use Frobboz Electric! Erh, I digress).


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