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Slynky December 3rd, 2004 01:33 AM

OT (Poll) - LOVE
 
Loving my wife tonight. Christmas and all. Just in the mood. (besides, Atrocities can do it, so why can't I http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif):

Difficult poll with (admitedly) limited questions (so, apologies upfront).

Applies mostly to those "involved".

Renegade 13 December 3rd, 2004 02:26 AM

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A difficult poll indeed. Now, speaking as one who is admittedly only 17, and with limited experience with matters of love and the heart, I'd just like to say that I envy those of you who have found true love. Don't ever let it go. No matter what. I only hope love will quit biting me in the *** and that some day I (and everyone) can find true love and happiness.

Col. Mustard December 3rd, 2004 02:29 AM

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yes, as do I. However, It won't happen by playing videoga,es...

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 03:03 AM

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Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
A difficult poll indeed. Now, speaking as one who is admittedly only 17, and with limited experience with matters of love and the heart, I'd just like to say that I envy those of you who have found true love. Don't ever let it go. No matter what. I only hope love will quit biting me in the *** and that some day I (and everyone) can find true love and happiness.

Wise words!

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 03:58 AM

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Poll is showing some interesting results.

Kamog December 3rd, 2004 04:56 AM

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I have been in love twice. Both times, I secretly had strong feelings about someone but I never had the courage to tell her. I just thought about her constantly. Then soon I found out that she already had a boyfriend or husband. But the feelings never went away, even many years later.

Things are going to be different next time!

Atrocities December 3rd, 2004 09:37 AM

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Life goes on long after the thrill of living has gone. I gave up on finding love a hell of a long time ago.

If you have it, keep it. There is nothing more important in life than being happy with yourself and the person you love who loves you back. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 10:32 AM

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I see we have some mixed results. To be expected, I guess. Lots of people are happy with whom they are "attached" to but a lot of people wonder if some other love would have been better.

And a lot of people believe in soulmates.

All-in-all, it's a fairly optimistic group so far. And pragmatic.

BTW, those not familiar with the situation with my wife and her work situation...well...there is another thread. Last night, she cried her eyes out in despair. Although she was given a different job (so she didn't have to work for the guy who sexually harrassed her in the past), she is too unhappy to continue. She feels like life is unfair and doesn't understand why it has trodden upon her as it has. She asked me if she could quit work. God only knows we need her $50K to make ends meet but her sadness isn't worth it...so I told her we'd get by somehow. Tighten the belt a bit but a tight belt on a happy person is better than financial security with a loose belt. I felt as if I had somehow made her think she had to work in a new job in order to continue as we have in our life...and I hate that feeling. That's where love comes in. Where you decide personal happiness is more important than busting your *** in a job you were "forced" to take so you can make a few dollars more.

Guess I'll need to re-read Atrocities post a while back on how much money do you need to live. After all, the habit of having enough money to do extra things with is sometimes a habit that needs to be broken in order to make people happier. Chasing the dollar can be a nasty business sometimes and people sometimes get lost in its lure. We'll find a way to make ends meet.

General Woundwort December 3rd, 2004 02:56 PM

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All I can say is that this is a very preplexing subject. Women are a complete and baffling mystery to me. I'll have my female co-workers tell me what a great guy I am and that I'm a great catch, and then when I ask some girl out on a date (in a different context), I get shot down and stomped on to boot. I have no skill in, or patience for, the "marketing/selling oneself" games you evidently have to play in on-line dating or matching services. I'm now 36 years old, quite single, and getting quite set in my geekish ways - and at a loss as to where to go from here.

Rasorow December 3rd, 2004 03:16 PM

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Deep poll. Very deep.

General Woundwort, I am not far behind you. Heard the same lines and until recently had mostly the same results. Now that I have found someone that actually wants to spend time with me there are things just some differences and issues that make me very hesitant to presue things any farther and I wonder if maybe I was better off with lots of female friends if no one significant.

Rasorow

Yet, perhaps one day.....

(to steal a line from General Woundwort if he will permit this one time)

Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at Last to home afar.

Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at Last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known

-Bilbo Baggins
- The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 03:52 PM

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Yes, it's a deep subject and it's one that most every human being seeks in life. Some find it. Some never do. Some thought they had it and then decide they don't. Some missed the chance of a lifetime.

This wonderful thing called love is worth pursuing (to sound a bit corny...wink). Thing is, though it may seem to be a "Brown Mountain light" (you guys living outside of North Carolina, USA, will have to look that one up...grin), you may turn around some day and find what you are looking for.

narf poit chez BOOM December 3rd, 2004 04:08 PM

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My parents have been together 30 some years and it's easy to see the're happy together, any time they talk about it.

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 04:25 PM

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Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
My parents have been together 30 some years and it's easy to see the're happy together, any time they talk about it.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I think it's nice that children can see that their parents love each other. However, sometimes, when I'm hugging my wife in the kitchen, our daughter makes a remark. I always say, "Would you rather us argue?" It always gets a "no" answer (smile).

mottlee December 3rd, 2004 05:48 PM

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My wife and I have been married for 28 years, to those of you just starting...it is not easy it will take the two of you to make it work, it is normal (?) to think "What IF" as long as you do not act on it! no matter how much "In Love" the two of you are THAT WILL kill it off.


HEY Promoted!!!!

Thermodyne December 3rd, 2004 08:52 PM

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I've been married to my "first" wife for 24+ years. Read into that what you will.

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 08:58 PM

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Didn't know there were that many of us married guys out here. Surprising considering our "habit" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

President_Elect_Shang December 3rd, 2004 09:03 PM

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Ten years for my wife and I and it does take constant maintenance.

I faced the “what if” about three years ago, it only got as far as one kiss (I didn’t initiate the kiss she did) but at that very moment I realized that my wife was the only woman who loved me the way a person should be loved. The truth is no matter how much you love someone you will continue to look at others so don’t feel guilty. Just try to remember that one night of sex will never justify destroying years of love.

Slynky December 3rd, 2004 09:27 PM

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Amen, PES. I think it's wonderful your wife has stayed with you through all those political years even though you've never attained office yet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif.

President_Elect_Shang December 4th, 2004 12:02 AM

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That woman is just waiting for me to get voted into office so she can hang around the cute young body guards! That and she wants the “No Limit” credit cards! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

tesco samoa December 4th, 2004 12:10 AM

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6 years for me.

Rg13.... You will know your first love when you understand what it is to truely hate that person for a while.

For you can not hate someone until you have loved them very much.

After time you release that they are the same. If your lucky and move on.

Oh the first truely broken heart. Good luck man. It really hurts. Hopefully you experience this in your early twenties not when your at middle age.

It will help you with your life long partner. As you will not be such a stubborn *** http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif and release that you love someone very much and need to show it every day.

It can be as simple as a brush of two hands. But when you are both in love the meaning is there.

it is a hard thing to have two people at the same level....

I do believe those who truely love each other know this and make it through the times when the sine waves are not over lapping but at opposites.

P.S. Find some one who has passion in something. Make sure it is not what you have a passion in. And learn that passion it is a great adventure.

TurinTurambar December 4th, 2004 01:02 AM

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Quote:

Atrocities said:
Life goes on long after the thrill of living has gone. I gave up on finding love a hell of a long time ago.

It was my recollection that you're not all that old AT. (I could be mistaken.) I have been married for 13 years now, and at the ripe young age of 37 one thing I can say for certain is this: You will always look back on who you were and what you thought, and wonder how and why you were so mistaken and immature with your views on life.

You can't ever give up on anything, because the learning never stops.

Turin

Slynky December 4th, 2004 02:21 AM

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Quote:

President_Elect_Shang said:
That woman is just waiting for me to get voted into office so she can hang around the cute young body guards! That and she wants the “No Limit” credit cards! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Slynky December 4th, 2004 02:27 AM

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A lot of good Messages and things to remember being mentioned in this thread. A lot from people who have been married quite a while.

And one from Tesco...about the first big hurt. You see, I remember being 19 and sitting in the woods on a creek bank in NC with a rifle in my mouth. I wanted to die because of hurt and I wanted her to know how much she hurt me. Then some sense set in as I realized I'd never "see" her pain because, well, I'd be dead. Then, I realized nothing was worth taking my life for. ANd though things seemed terrible then, I'm so glad I made the choice I did and have so many things to appreciate in life.

Others never recover and we read about them on page 6 at the bottom of the page. That is truly a waste!

President_Elect_Shang December 4th, 2004 02:53 AM

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I remember my first broken heart and I remember her face, name, eyes, lips, EVERYTHING! I also remember that if it had not been for her and the broken heart she gave me I would not have become the man that won my wife’s attention. So thanks D, I still hate your guts but I thank you for helping me to see I was nothing but an immature kid.

You will always get over the pain and look back at how much it really helped you to grow.

Renegade 13 December 4th, 2004 03:06 AM

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Quote:

Slynky said:
(snip...)
And one from Tesco...about the first big hurt. You see, I remember being 19 and sitting in the woods on a creek bank in NC with a rifle in my mouth.
(/snip...)

Unfortunately, I think a lot of us have been in that same position at one time or another.

Instar December 4th, 2004 04:04 AM

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love is crap

Ruatha December 4th, 2004 06:19 AM

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It takes work to get a realtionship to work, 15 years+ now.

And remember, just becourse you're on a diet it doesn't mean you can't study the menu, as long as you don't eat any of it!

President_Elect_Shang December 4th, 2004 01:04 PM

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Quote:

Ruatha said:as long as you don't eat any of it!

I was going to avoid that comment since it happens to be my favorite activity! And you know the wife never complains, he-he! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

AgentZero December 4th, 2004 04:21 PM

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Interesting poll. I'm a bit surprise at the number of people who believe in soulmates though. The concept that on the entire planet there is just one person that you were meant to spend your life with seems a bit ridiculous to me, especially given the population of this planet.
As someone who has been in love far too many times for his own good, I know that most times when you're in love, it feels like you're with the only person that could make you feel the way you do, but, well, they aren't. Guess all I'm trying to say is that even if one girl, or two (or 29, if you're me) turns you down, there's still millions out there that you could love who won't reject you.

PvK December 4th, 2004 09:32 PM

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My concept or definition of SM is much less strict, and I expect that there are many more than one for most folks.

Renegade 13 December 4th, 2004 09:37 PM

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My definition of soulmate is also much less strict than the example above.

tesco samoa December 4th, 2004 10:22 PM

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THe example above

SoulMate : small fury animal with four legs and rules the house. Likes to chase mouse toys and likes chewing on pLastic bags at 4 in the morning.


hehe renegade

Slynky December 4th, 2004 10:59 PM

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Quote:

PvK said:
My concept or definition of SM is much less strict, and I expect that there are many more than one for most folks.

I agree wholeheartedly!

Despite the pessimistic attitude displayed below, I believe there are soulmates. Meaning lots of them. People who are meant for you. Doens't confine it to only one person...it just means there are many people out there that are the person you will be most happy with.

Problem is, you need to take that step and make sure you don't let one of the "soulmates" get past you.

Slynky December 4th, 2004 11:03 PM

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One of the weird things, and I think most will agree, is that THIS forum is inhabited by a bunch of geeks. I don't mean that in a bad way but that we are special. My wife used to think of me as a geek but sexually (if I can say such things here), she found out real quick that I'm not a "missionary" person. Fact is, I believe, us geeks are quite a bit quirky when it comes to sex and girls shouldn't "pigeon-hole" us into the boring Category. I say this also because I talk about stuff like this with my other "geek" friends and they are really kinky!

So, we are a bunch of game-loving geeks, IMHO, who are not boring when it comes to love and sex. OK...that should be borderline....LOL.

President_Elect_Shang December 5th, 2004 04:41 AM

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I always heard that jocks are good for 5 minutes of fun but if you want a real ride hook up with a nerd (geek). That one came from a girl in my high school days. My problem is that I look like a pretty boy so I always got stuck somewhere in between the two. Don’t believe it when the TV says all girls want a 6 foot blue eyed guy. I had my share but if I had just been a little more on the dorky side I think could have had more. As for kinky don’t get me started!

Instar December 6th, 2004 02:50 AM

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ah geez guys, you all keep saying love is good or something

love is crap http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Slynky December 6th, 2004 09:06 AM

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At least 55 voters. Not too bad for an OT poll.

TurinTurambar December 6th, 2004 01:23 PM

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Quote:

President_Elect_Shang said:
Don’t believe it when the TV says all girls want a 6 foot blue eyed guy.

Hey! I'M a 6 foot blue eyed guy... wtf.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gifTurin

Rasorow December 6th, 2004 01:51 PM

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Really interesting responses.... I think the first true love that doesn't work out is probably one of the most devestating experiences... and one of the best friends that you can ever get is someone with whom you have shared interest but the two of you (mutually)agreed it wouldn't work (and still can talk).

Rasorow

President_Elect_Shang December 6th, 2004 10:13 PM

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Quote:

TurinTurambar said:
Hey! I'M a 6 foot blue eyed guy... wtf.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gifJoin the club!http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I just use that line to make the NON 6 foot blue eyed guys feel less threatened.

Renegade 13 December 6th, 2004 10:18 PM

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Does 6'1 and green eyes count??

President_Elect_Shang December 7th, 2004 11:12 AM

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I don’t know? I have always liked green eyes (my wife’s are brown by the way) but for some reason green eyed guys (and ladies) are not portrayed as much in media. I think it has a tie in with “traditional Western culture” but hay that is just pure speculation. Also (to avoid any arguments) keep in mind that I am speaking purely of Anglo-Saxon media. We get Hispanic TV in my part of Texas and 6 foot blue eyed is not as popular. Sorry straying off topic here.

Ragnarok December 7th, 2004 03:53 PM

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How about 6'3" and blue eyes? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Thought I was in love once. But I was young(er) and did not know any better then. Looking back now it was more infatuation then anything.

Slynky December 7th, 2004 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Ragnarok said:Thought I was in love once. But I was young(er) and did not know any better then. Looking back now it was more infatuation then anything.

I think a LOT of younger people go through that.

Yef December 8th, 2004 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Col. Mustard said:
yes, as do I. However, It won't happen by playing videoga,es...


Are you calling SE4 a videogame??!!

Heathen. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

We play computer games, strategy games in specific, not "videogames".
Videogames are for kids and I refuse to be counted in that lot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif


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