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Elowan December 7th, 2004 04:10 PM

Halp!!
 
Updated from 1.8.4 to 1.9.1. Now I can't load anysaved empires - mine or others.

Also date on exe file did not change - so what changed? Do I have to do the customization (empires) all over again? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Fyron December 7th, 2004 04:12 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Did you ever modify the stock data files in the past?

Ed Kolis December 7th, 2004 05:14 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Hey! Elowan! Welcome back! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Any luck modelling your own shipsets? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Sivran December 7th, 2004 11:27 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
/me steals some headfruit....

Atrocities December 7th, 2004 11:46 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
I would reinstall 1.84 and do a seprate install for updating to 1.91.

Elowan December 8th, 2004 10:13 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:
I would reinstall 1.84 and do a seprate install for updating to 1.91.

Yeah - that's what I was thinking. Re-installing 1.8.4 that is. Then install 1.9.1 in it's own folder? What would be th epoint other than being able to load my empires again?

Elowan December 8th, 2004 10:14 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Did you ever modify the stock data files in the past?

Hell yeah!

Elowan December 8th, 2004 10:17 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Ed Kolis said:
Hey! Elowan! Welcome back! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Any luck modelling your own shipsets? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Yeah - some.

Fyron December 8th, 2004 10:21 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Elowan said:
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Did you ever modify the stock data files in the past?

Hell yeah!

Well that is your problem then. The patch overwrites the stock data files, so all of your custom changes were lost. Reinstalling 1.84 will most likely not make your savegames work, as they depend on modified data files which were lost... This is part of why it is always a good idea to _never_ modify the stock data files, and always work in a mod folder. The other reasons are multiplayer compatibility and ease of backups.

One thing you could try is loading the game as the Host and processing a turn. This will let SE4 know that you really want to change the data files in use. There were a few data file changes in the 1.91 patch.

edit:
As for empire files, SE4 will never allow you to load an empire file that was created with a different number of racial traits than are present in the RacialTraits.txt data file. If you added any traits, you won't be able to use your old empire files, in any Version of SE4, until you readd enough traits to compensate for the difference.

Elowan December 9th, 2004 11:28 AM

Re: Halp!!
 
But I saved out the data files prior to updating and then copied them back into thir respective folders - editing as needed first. bad idea?

Fyron December 9th, 2004 04:19 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Elowan said:
But I saved out the data files prior to updating and then copied them back into thir respective folders - editing as needed first. bad idea?

Hmm... and you saved all of them? I still say it is a bad idea to do this in the stock data folder, and you still want to keep everything in a mod folder...

In this case, you'll need to log into the game as Host and process a turn. This will tell SE4 not to complain about changing data files and game Versions, and will successfully upgrade the game to the new patch. Not sure what would be wrong with saved empire files... double check the RacialTraits.txt file and make sure any changes you had made to it before are still present.

Elowan December 9th, 2004 05:32 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
OK. I'm going to uninstall SE4 and reinstall it. I don't have 1.8.4 anymore (hmm ... yes ... I do on laptop) so I'll patch with 1.9.1 and redo my altered files. Oh what fun!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

If I install my modified data files into a different folder - how in blazes will SE4 know where to look for the changes? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

Ed Kolis December 9th, 2004 05:52 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Use the Path.txt located in your SE4 folder to specify the location of the game data files you want to use. Or, download the ModLauncher, the SE4 Companion, or the SE4 Mod Selector; those programs can present you with a menu of all your installed mods and change the Path.txt for you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Elowan December 9th, 2004 05:56 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Ed Kolis said:
Use the Path.txt located in your SE4 folder to specify the location of the game data files you want to use. Or, download the ModLauncher, the SE4 Companion, or the SE4 Mod Selector; those programs can present you with a menu of all your installed mods and change the Path.txt for you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Sound like fun files. Where do I find these?

geoschmo December 9th, 2004 06:20 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Keep in mind no matter how you go about it, whether you overwrite the default files or use a mod folder and change the path.txt, you are still going to get that error when you try to open savegames using 1.91. Until you process a turn as host using 1.91. Then you will be able to open the player turn.

Geoschmo

Fyron December 9th, 2004 06:51 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
SE4 Mod Launcher

Elowan December 9th, 2004 07:26 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
SE4 Mod Launcher

Many thnx for that! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Elowan December 9th, 2004 07:32 PM

Re: Halp!!
 
Quote:

geoschmo said:
Keep in mind no matter how you go about it, whether you overwrite the default files or use a mod folder and change the path.txt, you are still going to get that error when you try to open savegames using 1.91. Until you process a turn as host using 1.91. Then you will be able to open the player turn.

Geoschmo

I wasn't having any difficulty opening games before nor since re-installing and updating to 1.9.1, just loading my empire files.

However - I am having an issue with all my ship designs. They show up if I load a saved game - but even if I save the empire out of that game - I still get an empty design queue when I start a new game. Same for Fill Queue. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Is there somewhere that I can access these designs (a data file) or must I recreate them from scratch - again!? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

whispers to self: why did you update in the 1st place? Why couldn't you leave well enough alone? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif


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