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David E. Gervais January 3rd, 2005 11:06 PM

A Special Thanks to Atrocities..
 
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AT, You are by far the most prolific ship builder I know. The amount of work you have put into your Star Trek Mod is absolutely astounding.

I made you this montage as a special thanks for all the shipsets you have made for SE4.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...irdOfPrey1.jpg

I hope you like it, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Aiken January 3rd, 2005 11:25 PM

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Holy ... picture!
Any chance for 1600x1280 edition?

luke_slovakian January 3rd, 2005 11:44 PM

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i have to say that is really really nice

Atrocities January 4th, 2005 12:02 AM

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Holly great houses of the Klingon Empire..... I had no idea that you could do this with those models. I am hyperventalating as I drool over your work. Very impressive and they even look like Klingon K'Vort BOP ships.

Awsome, simply breath takingly awsome.

Some how saying thank you is not enough. I am very uplifted now. A true master peace David, a genuine work of art.

Caduceus January 4th, 2005 12:05 AM

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I can hear the music now...

Buh bah buh bah buh bah!

Timstone January 4th, 2005 04:52 AM

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Wow!! Very cool!
Congrats David and AT!
I was just in the process of collecting data for a nice K'vort model for picture purposes, but now I see this I think I be better off putting it away...

Randallw January 4th, 2005 05:47 AM

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Timstone said:

I was just in the process of collecting data for a nice K'vort model for picture purposes, but now I see this I think I be better off putting it away...

ah, but are they K'vort cruisers or B'rel frigates http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Timstone January 4th, 2005 06:00 AM

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Oh yeah, that's the one. B'rel.
I wanted to make a super detailed model. Just for kicks.
Maybe I'll go ahead and make another Version of it for use in SE V.
Due to time constraints and the B5 mod, I'll stick this project into the freezer.
The first shipset I would like to make for SE V is (are?) the Borg.

Randallw January 4th, 2005 06:26 AM

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It's an easy mistake since they look practically identical (apart from the size). I have been thinking of modding and set making but am leaving the effort till SEV comes out. Then the Draka will conquer the galaxy.

Edit: is it just me, or have the page borders shrunk?

Timstone January 4th, 2005 06:44 AM

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Randallw:
About the borders, hmm... I thought it was my computer at work. Guess not then. I'm glad you noticed.

I think it's very unrealistic (if you can use this word here) that the K'vort and the B'rel look the same, but the K'vort is about twice (or more) the size.

Randallw January 4th, 2005 07:13 AM

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My technical manual has a single picture for both of them

Type: Scout (B'Rel); Cruiser(K'Vort). Common planform, scaled up 4.3 times for cruiser.

The B'Rel has a crew of 12, and the K'Vort 1500.

You'd think the difference would be that the K'Vort has more decks and more windows on side. Of course, in DS9 they just shrank the model when they wanted the difference within a fleet.

Timstone January 4th, 2005 08:01 AM

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of course...

It's lame to see those kind of shortcuts. Ah well, there are plenty of people who didnt noticed it or don't care about it.

David E. Gervais January 4th, 2005 08:18 AM

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Did someone request a 1600x1200 Version?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

P.S. Oh, and AT,.. how many times have I said we make a great team? I suck at model-making but can manage a few good textures.. you (pardon my french) stink at textures but are a fantastic model-maker. I am proud and honored to count you as one of my friends.

P.P.S. Think of it this way, your ship models are like actors to me, and when I direct a scene, the end result will only be as good as the actors. Sure the stage can be pretty, but when the actors suck that's the only thing people notice.

..babble babble, babble, sorry for the digression.. but,. but, but,.. you really do make great ship models.

Cheers! again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Timstone January 4th, 2005 09:09 AM

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Damn, David. Cool comment. But I'm beginning to feel a little bit sad here.
I think it's great that AT and you are getting along so good. This is especially good for the community.
But the thing that makes me a bit sad is my lack of time. Because I think I'm pretty good at modeling too, and also suck with textures (getting better at it requires a lot of time). I wish I could supply you with cool models too.

Sorry for this litte bit of sadness. I wish, I wish, I wish...


"Okay, people nothing to read here. Be on your bussiness."

Slynky January 4th, 2005 09:27 AM

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Very nice models "arrayed" very nicely. Good job guys! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Raging Deadstar January 4th, 2005 11:52 AM

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So the Main question is....

Who's about to get their butts kicked http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif That's a pretty menacing Fleet.

Wonderful work you two http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Atrocities January 4th, 2005 01:06 PM

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The models are K'vort class Birds Of Prey. The B'Rel class has a much shorter neck. (Or at least my Version does)

Believe me when I say this is entirely Davids work. All I sent him were the models. He did the rest. OMG what a wonderful job he did do too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Those textures are spot on.

I wish I had the artistic eye and ability that David has. Making a model is one thing, but making it a work of art is something entirely differant.

Urendi Maleldil January 4th, 2005 01:35 PM

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As Napoleon Dynamite would say,

Sweet. That looks awesome.

XenoTheMorph January 4th, 2005 02:09 PM

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Best poster yet David, it is wonderfull http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

pathfinder January 4th, 2005 07:46 PM

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WoW!

VERY nice! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

David E. Gervais January 4th, 2005 10:26 PM

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I couldn't resist playing with the composition,..

BoP Take 2

hmmm, could that be a Borg beam hitting the BoP?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities January 4th, 2005 11:27 PM

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Written Words cannot do this latest digital poster justice.

Sweet Mercyful CRAP.

Caduceus January 4th, 2005 11:48 PM

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Laughed out loud on that one AT.

Kamog January 5th, 2005 12:28 AM

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Beautiful! Absolutely spectacular! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Renegade 13 January 5th, 2005 12:44 AM

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Totally awesome! Or as Narf would say, "Shiney!!"

NarfsCompIsBack January 5th, 2005 02:31 AM

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Indeed, it is shiney. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

boran_blok January 5th, 2005 07:31 AM

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David, just a little something, (not wanting to nitpick etc but I'll do it anyways http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif)

I know you might just have added the beam later on, but the ship that's being hit should at least be thrown a bit out of course (say tilted and slower) now it's still nice in formation despite getting hit. just a little item to think about for the next one you make.

I suck at both modelling AND textures, but I'm good at placing the two together and making things fit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Raging Deadstar January 5th, 2005 07:49 AM

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[nitpick]Also you missed off the SEIV Gold logo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif[/nitpick]

Lol, Other than that, You've done another incredible piece of art. The backgrounds for these are incredible and give the ships a realistic feel

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 08:50 AM

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Boran, I did actually 'ungroup' the pieces in the model and then had them slightly disperse in one render.. Sadly with even the slightest dispersal it failed to look like a BoP anymore. So I opted to manually chop off one of the wings instead. So this latest image has a bit of post-production done on the render.

Note two: I didn't 'forget' the se4:Gold logo, I chose not to add it. There is a difference.

All in all I think it turned out well. I will do better with my next render, it's the natural order of things,.. you know what they say, practice makes perfect. (Only I would change the word 'perfect' in the old phrase to 'better'.)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

P.S. I don't strive for prefection, that is a lost cause persued by fools.. I just want to gobsmack people and have their jaws bounce a few times off the floor or keyboard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Raging Deadstar January 5th, 2005 09:06 AM

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David E. Gervais said:
Note two: I didn't 'forget' the se4:Gold logo, I chose not to add it. There is a difference.

I was curious about that, Will these be used as the opening intro image for the star trek mod? It's a shame you can't have randomised intro screens, then you could use both http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Karibu January 5th, 2005 10:01 AM

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Very Nice pictures David! *clapping hands* [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/MusicalNote.gif[/img] I am interested how do you make them? Does it require hours of work managing all the little details or is it more simple than I think? Anyway, that picture is way over my abilities (well, not if I spend next 6 weeks making something like that...). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 11:43 AM

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How I do it! (and a new pic for effect..)
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...lingonTOS2.jpg

1) these renderings are made with Bryce 5.
2) I have a pre-built scene where there is a 2D panel in the background (I simply apply a new background texture as the mood strikes me.)
3) I simply import the model then apply a texture (which I make)
4) I hit the render button. Voila! I now have it basically all done.
5) add spfx elements like engine glow, beams explosions etc (as the mood dictates)
6) Render the tweaked scene.. and save.
7) load it into ArtGem and do a bit of post production.. Add the boarders, text, se4 logo etc.
8) resave the image.
9) boot up PSP and load the original .bmp.. then save it as a low loss .jpg to save bandwidth when I upload it.
10) post it here if the mood is right again.

Simple eh? And this process takes about 15 mins. Plus the render time that can be as much as 2 hours if there are alot of SP/FX in the scene.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

EDIT: P.S. With this latest model I have taken the time to go through the different 'pieces' of the model and give them their own textures. I think it turned out ok, what do you all think?


Timstone January 5th, 2005 11:47 AM

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Another very nice pic you created. Me like it.

A question not very much related to this subject, but does anyone have a nice pic/design in his head for a reactor?
A friend of mine supposed to draw a few, but I don't like his designs very much.

Ed Kolis January 5th, 2005 12:05 PM

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I imagine a reactor would look something like a cylinder with a second cylinder superimposed which is narrower but taller, and with coolant tubes coming out near the top of either cylinder and going back in near the bottom of the fat cylinder... if you want I can whip up a quick model when I get home and have access to Wings...

Timstone January 5th, 2005 12:20 PM

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Ed:
Oh please do.
Since my Last post I've "brainstormed" two different reactors. Keep 'em comming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Thanks for your help Ed.

Rasorow January 5th, 2005 12:53 PM

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<amazed, speechless>

I like that!

Rasorow

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 01:53 PM

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Is this close to what you imagine a power reactor to be?..

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...actorCore1.jpg

I have the 128x128 and 36x36 .bmp Versions made. If you like this tell me where to send them.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Timstone January 5th, 2005 01:55 PM

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David:
Oh yeah! Now, that's nice!!!!
I plan on doing stuff like that too, but without the shiney surfaces, I don't like shiney surfaces.
Very cool pic.

mottlee January 5th, 2005 01:57 PM

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My Hat's off to the two of you....VERY nice work! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Atrocities January 5th, 2005 02:04 PM

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Its all been said before, but I will say it again, I am speechless. Excellent work David. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 02:20 PM

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Attached is the zip with the 128 and 36 pixel sized reactor cores..

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

..all these compliments are making me lightheaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Timstone January 5th, 2005 03:00 PM

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Don't "drink" too much of it... hehehe.
Maybe this pic is a good addition to the image pack?

David:
Could you make a few more (5 in total), with the same feel? They will be ised in the comming release of the B5 mod.

Karibu January 5th, 2005 03:14 PM

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Heh, that stuff in the engine looks much like the drink I had thid new year (we Finnish like hot stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif ). I think you could undoubtly make nice pictures for SEV (or SEIV, for that matter) component pictures.

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 03:24 PM

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Timstone said:
David:
Could you make a few more (5 in total), with the same feel? They will be ised in the comming release of the B5 mod.


Grrrrr, I'll think about it....Grrrrrr http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 03:26 PM

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Ok, this one is not for the Star Trek Mod, But the model is still by Atrocities.. I took the liberty of giving it a title with a bit of a nostalgic feel..

I miss the old joint

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Timstone January 5th, 2005 03:35 PM

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Hahahaha!!!! LOL!!

Fantastic pic David! The days of old are reliving. I'm feeling at home again. The text you gave it is hilarious, great stuff.

Ed Kolis January 5th, 2005 03:37 PM

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Which reminds me... the Phong were notoriously absent in the Last SE5 teaser pic... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Intimidator January 5th, 2005 03:40 PM

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All is already said the Last 3 pages, but once again :

Great job David.................. and ofcourse Atrocities, but I already told him that more than once............

David E. Gervais January 5th, 2005 03:43 PM

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This is more fun than making avatars! .. o,m,g,.. I made over 1000 of those... (warning eyecandy overload is a very real danger.) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Fyron January 5th, 2005 04:02 PM

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Timstone said:
Could you make a few more (5 in total), with the same feel? They will be ised in the comming release of the B5 mod.

There are a number of cool reactor images in the latestet Versions of the Image Mod. Have you seen them yet?


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