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Atrocities January 25th, 2005 02:33 PM

OT: Is There A Hacker Convention Going On?
 
In the last hour my firewall has recorded over 500 unsolicited attempts to penetrate my system and the number is growing incredibly fast. Now 584.

Timstone January 25th, 2005 02:39 PM

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My goodness, that's a lot of attempts. Fortunately your Firewall holds them off. Pray you won't be penetrated (excuse the pun...).

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 02:42 PM

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I agree, I do hope the Fire wall holds. I might just disconnect and report the attack to my ISP with a list of the IP's has listed. I have heard of things like this happening, where massive attacks occure. Usually around some significan hacker holiday or something. I guess they are just picking on Qwest customers today.

I sincerely doubt it is a personal attack. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Timstone January 25th, 2005 03:28 PM

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Hmm... you doubt it's a personal attack?
Well, I could imagine you being the target of thousands and thousands of hackers... hehehe...

Blue Lord January 25th, 2005 03:33 PM

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I take it you lack a router?

Timstone January 25th, 2005 03:36 PM

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I don't know how it works, but I know the router is a physical barrier against viriea. Though the router isn't a full protection against outside trouble. I have a router (so does a friend of mine) and we regularly have encountered a hacker or virus inside the network (past the router).

Thermodyne January 25th, 2005 03:43 PM

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There are a couple of new worms making the rounds today. I was getting too many alerts from the firewall. My mail box kept filling up, had to turn the alerts off.

Thermodyne January 25th, 2005 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Timstone said:
I don't know how it works, but I know the router is a physical barrier against viriea. Though the router isn't a full protection against outside trouble. I have a router (so does a friend of mine) and we regularly have encountered a hacker or virus inside the network (past the router).

That would be worms. The worms use ports and or protos that can be blocked by the firewall.

Virus files are filtered by Antivirus software based on bit count/headers/etc. Some high end firewalls can also run antivirus. But I never saw a home-use nat/router/firewall that could do anything with virus files and still allow normal traffic.

Timstone January 25th, 2005 04:11 PM

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Thermodyne:
Ehhh... what do you mean? I fear I'm hopelessly outclassed by your knowledge about this kind of stuff. I yield. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Edit:
I just repeated what I was told, or better yet, made to believe.

Blue Lord January 25th, 2005 04:33 PM

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The router will, unless told otherwise, stop your ports from responding to pings. Someone pings your IP, worst case, the recieve "Port open to connections". As far as computer security goes, it goes downhill from there. Second worst case it responds with "Port's here, but closed". Best case, unless you did something to prompt the ping or have a specific port set to accept connection, it doesn't respond at all.

Which means the hacker in question might aswell be throwing packets at a computer that's turned off.

Add a firewall and a paranoid mind and you're safe as can be, short of *shudder* get rid of your modem.

Jack Simth January 25th, 2005 05:36 PM

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Nothing unusual showing up in my router's security log.

Of course, I've got it set to block pings....

Baron Munchausen January 25th, 2005 06:04 PM

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If you are getting LOTS of attacks from the same IP addresses, you should look up the source and send a complaint to the domain. Lots of tools are available online. You can do reverse lookups and WHOIS at this site, as well as get the 'abuse' address to report problems.

http://www.dnsstuff.com/

narf poit chez BOOM January 25th, 2005 08:10 PM

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The laws against breaking and entering need to be extended to electronic breaking and entering.

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 08:15 PM

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Yes, but when the purp lives in asia or the former Soviet Union, you kinda screwed.

It should be a law the your ISP provide protection from both virus and electronic B&N. Then again it is most likely our ISP's who are doing it and then selling the info. The SOB's.

Gandalf Parker January 25th, 2005 08:56 PM

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Since I host a white-hat hackers site, the home of the alt.hacker newsgroup, my server is rather a measuring stick of sites which get targetted by skiddies, black-hats, and crackers. In my opinion, you have been targeted. And probably for a DoS attack flood.

Overseas hackers: dont threaten them with law, threaten them with lawsuits. Its far more powerful, available everywhere, and in some countries VERY scarey.

ISPs offering protection: a common discussion in our newsgroup. There are pros and cons since no filter can avoid catching some good stuff with the bad. All of the "bad stuff" is he same protocols as the good stuff. It needs pretty invasive examining of your traffic to decide. My position is that there is a market for filtering AND non-filtering ISPs. I just wish they would choose and advertise themselves as such. I hate getting an account and then finding out that they block/filter something I needed to use.


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