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Starhawk March 10th, 2005 12:49 AM

Kingdom of Leon Shipset under construction
 
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I have been very busy working this week making new Ship sets for my upcoming mod and this is a ship from the Star Kngdom of Leon (pronounced Leo-an).

This is a ship I just sort of threw together and I haven't decided what size it should be yet, any sugjestions/comments/tips would be accepted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Captain Kwok March 10th, 2005 12:54 AM

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The ships are fine but you might want to keep a consistent angle for all the ship portraits. An oblique angle works best for ships that are somewhat longer than they are wide. You may also want to render at a high resolution and use a program like Adobe's photoshop to resize, it tends to due a better job.

Starhawk March 10th, 2005 12:58 AM

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Well I could have rendered at a higher qaulity but last time I did that it took LOTS of time to load on people and they suggested I make them lower quality while posting such a large pic.

As for the angle thing I'll work on that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Any ideas on what size ship this should be?

Captain Kwok March 10th, 2005 01:02 AM

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My suggestion was more for the actual in-game ship portaits (based on what I saw of the your other finished set) than WIPs.

Starhawk March 10th, 2005 01:10 AM

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Odd those are BMPs and rendered from Doga, what about them is low quality? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Captain Kwok March 10th, 2005 01:12 AM

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When you render with the DOGA engine at a small size like 128x128 - the image looks rough (jagged edges etc) as opposed to when you render it larger and re-size it using Photoshop (or similar program) which does a nice job of making the image look crisp.

narf poit chez BOOM March 10th, 2005 01:24 AM

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I like it. Could use a good texture, but other than that...Maybe a couple more guns on the side?

What's that glowey thing in the middle?

Starhawk March 10th, 2005 01:30 AM

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What's that glowey thing in the middle?

Eye Candy for now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Kamog March 10th, 2005 02:07 AM

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Looks good. The size might a cruiser or perhaps a battle cruiser? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

TerranC March 10th, 2005 06:28 AM

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Captain Kwok said:
When you render with the DOGA engine at a small size like 128x128 - the image looks rough (jagged edges etc) as opposed to when you render it larger and re-size it using Photoshop (or similar program) which does a nice job of making the image look crisp.

Or it is most likely that he left the anti-alias setting at 0...

Strategia_In_Ultima March 10th, 2005 06:36 AM

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I like the gun at the front right wing best..... perhaps you could mount a couple of those things on the side of the ship.

NullAshton March 10th, 2005 09:29 AM

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This looks like a heavily armed escort http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Starhawk March 10th, 2005 04:04 PM

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Yeah I think it would make a good frigate, those guns are afterall rather small and weaker then they look http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Well here it is with a new texture and additional guns.

NullAshton March 10th, 2005 04:20 PM

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Neat texture. If you put another one of those wing thingies on, maybe near the back, it could pass as a light cruiser

Strategia_In_Ultima March 10th, 2005 04:27 PM

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WOOT..... MAN that just ROCKS!!!!! I LOVE the flak-gun-looking turrets on top in front of the glowing thingie! DUDE send me a PM when this is finished! I'll be one of the first to DL this! Dude! Your ships are most DEFINITELY some of the most BEAUTIFUL looking ones I have EVER seen!

(sorry 'bout the weirdo looking sentences, but this ship just ROCKS.....)

narf poit chez BOOM March 10th, 2005 05:26 PM

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That's a ship that says 'You wanna try to kill me? It's been tried, buddy. It's been tried and they died.'

Starhawk March 10th, 2005 07:13 PM

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Glad to hear you guys like it, and BTW I have decided to classify that as a frigate for the mod I'm making.

The Star Kingdom of Leon will be of 'Russian' descent, and the reason I put Russian in '' is because of the fact that this is a parallel history we are talking about so there wasn't quite a Russia as we think of it. And tried to copy the intimidating look they have in a lot of their ships.
While keeping it seperate from the Icaran looking navy ships.

I am still having trouble figuring out what ships of Asiatic design heritage should look like though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Starhawk March 10th, 2005 08:35 PM

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Say hello to the Leon Cruiser

Captain Kwok March 10th, 2005 09:45 PM

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Starhawk said:
Say hello to the Leon Cruiser

If I buy it now, can I wait to 2008 to pay with no interest!?

narf poit chez BOOM March 10th, 2005 09:46 PM

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Needs more guns.

Starhawk March 11th, 2005 12:29 AM

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LOL narf it's only a cruiser and it has 12 heavy guns (for the Leon) and 2 flakker cannons and you want more guns http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


Wow I liked my Icarans better so I'm suprised everyone likes the Leon better http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif hehe well live and learn right?

narf poit chez BOOM March 11th, 2005 01:07 AM

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Hmm...Actually...Now that I take a second look, I'll change that to 'move the forward wings more forward'. And maybe align them with the hull.

Starhawk March 11th, 2005 01:26 AM

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Actually Narf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif they're set back slightly for a reason, they are also at an angle for a reason, I tried perfectly aligning them with the hull but that only succeded in pointing the gun turrets into the hull of the ship which while amusing to see would not do very much for the ship in combat http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

narf poit chez BOOM March 11th, 2005 01:43 AM

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Ok, then, it looks good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Starhawk March 16th, 2005 02:02 AM

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Lads and lassies the Leon Battleship

Instar March 16th, 2005 02:20 AM

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Why do some of the deck guns have blast shields? A turret wouldn't have armor like that unless they were being manned by someone. What I mean is why have that extra bit out there if its a space vessel. Put it on the turret itself.

Starhawk March 16th, 2005 02:29 AM

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It's unique it looks cool and some times even I like to add a bit of form to my function http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

But if you want a technical reason okay, you see that part at the back of the turret that's where the crew is and so they have an extra peice of armor between them and instant death should an energy weapon strike there, we are talking afteral about energy weapons that would likely chew through even heavy armor in short order so let's say Leons like to have that extra layer AWAY from the crew so that when it gets vaporized the guys in the turret it's self may have a chance to go "WHOAH" and run away thus saving their lives http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Instar March 16th, 2005 02:55 AM

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Well, that is an interesting explanation; I asked because things like that were designed with a purpose. In real life, plating like that has an obvious purpose, when someone has to physically operate the gun and maintain it.
I have to admit, it looks neat and gives it a heritage of sorts with ships from the recent past to the modern era.

Starhawk March 16th, 2005 09:10 AM

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Hehe well it's supposed to look similar to what I've seen in a lot of Russian ships, they don't QUITE look modern enough though they do have a lot of modern weaponry, mixed in a little bit with the old.

The Leon star Kingdom is actually descended from what we would call Russian stock.

Starhawk March 21st, 2005 07:55 PM

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Lads and lassies a side view of the Leon Dreadnought! Queen of her Navy!

Atrocities March 21st, 2005 08:07 PM

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That look very promising. Have you considered making your own turrets? You make one, then save it as a Part. That way you all of your turrets will be identical and you can add them as a part. You make several versions of it, one with the barrels up, one with the barrels level and so on.

Also blue does not look good. Do a google search for metal textures and see if any of those will work. Remember you can use outside textures and use the color pallet and other settings to change the appearance of the textures.

Starhawk March 21st, 2005 08:16 PM

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AT for some reason whenever I try saving parts and reloading them later it doesn't show up in the option menu maybe because I don't have a paid account?

Well so far sadly I have to juse use regular turrets and modify them the best I can http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

As for the blue I certainly will look up other texture sources thanks for the advice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities March 21st, 2005 08:45 PM

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You have to save them to a directory then when you ADD PART, you must select the ADD PART FROM option under PARTs.

Starhawk March 21st, 2005 08:52 PM

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What do you mean save it to a directory? I tried saving it in the Data section and it was THERE I just couldn't load it into another model.

Atrocities March 21st, 2005 10:19 PM

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Save As: PART
LOCATION (Usually I put it in the same folder as the set I am working on.)

Starhawk March 22nd, 2005 01:07 AM

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Okay it works now thanks

Starhawk March 22nd, 2005 01:27 AM

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Okay a new LC with my new gun turrets please tell me what you think.


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