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Some people are just plain stupid!

Case in point. Ebert and Roper reviewed Sahara, a movie based, loosely, on the book by Clive Cussler with the same name. They dis the movie and make jokes about how bad it was and how horrible the plot is and how sahara 2 could be even worse. Although Ebert gave it a thumbs up, that jack booted retard, Roper, proved how stupid he really is as I do believe that neither he, or Ebert, knew that the movie was based on a Best Selling novel. Calling the movie stupid, perposturous, and so on just incensed me beyond words. It would be like some jack *** on a game review show on G4 TV, saying Space Empires IV was the worst game he had ever played.... like he ever played any other 4x game in his life.

If you don't know the history behind the movie, becareful about what you say, it might not be a good movie, but it was a damn good book. It just goes to show how ignorate some people are when it comes to spending too much time watching and not enough time reading.

I like Ebert, but that Roper guy can go back to writing crappy reviews for a nothing news paper for all I care.

I guess I would not be so mad about it if they had just shown some awareness that the movie, albeit not a very good movie, was based on a best selling book by clive custler..

HELL they even made jokes about Dirk Pitts name..... and how the movie took on a James Bond feel..... and a Indiana Jones perposterous story. Well no F'ing duh you dumb asses! That is what the novels are, a cross between indiana jones, jock custo (sp), and 007. GO READ THE BOOK SERIES YOU RETARDS!

I wish I could email this to them and educate them that they are such morons, but hey I cannot, or at least I have not found a way too yet...

They spat upon the Dirk Pitt novles, and clive cussler books and that just PMO to no end.

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In my own defense, I wrote this thing being very tired, burned out, and a bit PO at what they said. So if the gramer and spelling is bad, well so was what they said. (Not about the movie, but what they said about the story and how they made fun of it.)

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I hate to bring this up, but it always comes up inevitably...

So, AT... You just LOVED Starship Troopers, right?

A book can be excellent, top notch, worth reading five times over, lets-nominate-the-author-for-the-Nobel-Prize good ...

... and the cinema adaptation can be bad. (To draw from DNA) And not just bad, but jaw-droppingly bad. Bad on a big scale. Bad on a small scale. Bad when served with a side of toast. And in general, just reek of elephant excrement.

Anyway, the two of them are only paid to review movies. There isn't a need for them to go into the origins of the story, etc., only how they percieve what they see on the screen. That's what people what movie reviewers to do, only to say whether it is worth seeing a particular movie, or not.

--edit: stupid UBB code...

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Starship Troopers was a good use of an "R" rating. Too bad they don't do that any more. It had astonishingly violent counterpoint (as in Holy Sh*t, that had to hurt!). Naked sex just as natural as you please. And a story that actually managed to do better than that deadbeat hero rides off into the sunset alone bull. But still it somehow dragged on and on, and I got bored waiting for the damn thing to move forward.

Starship Troopers-2? Yechh. Obviously someone made a quick buck selling the property rights to a knock-off company. The end product barely qualified for a film.

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LOL Now if only Denise Richards had been on Rico instead of Dizzy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I'd a been a happy horny 14 year old muahahaha.

Anyway though seriously I liked Starship Troopers it was "fun" without much need to go "Oooh that's a huge plot twist" it was the kind of movie to watch when you just want to watch "sh## blow up" in large quantities and see a bunch of wet lovely naked women hehe. I even have it on tape to boot.

Starship Troopers 2.......I haven't seen it but I've seen preview scenes and I must say "How is humanity suddenly losing in this version!?!" And where did they get a Vietnam style feel to it when the maker of the first movie specifically was trying for a WWII style feel....I mean crap whoever wrote the script for STT2 wasn't thinking
"LOOK AT THE BLOODY UNIFORMS!" they are Nazi Ripoffs and the Women's uniform isn't even redone that much LOL it's an off the rack nazi women's uniform with the "Citizen Fed Eagle" instead of the "Imperial German Eagle" woohoo!

And oh yeah Robert Heinlan was making a point with his book as well, though I've heard too many arguments as to what that point was (anyone care to shed any light upon it for me) and from what I understand at least somewhat the maker of the 1st movie stuck to it while the maker of the 2nd movie blew i streight out his posterier with a grin.

P.S. The book rocks! now if only I can find the sequal "Combat Command" I'd be happier http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

If I were playing PBW right now in My empire any mention of said film would result in that sytem being star-nuked.

Allows the film to die in a horrible, twisted way as the Shrapnel Forum goers once again vent about that film...

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Hey! I went to see Sahara this weekend, I liked it. But then again I was not expecting it to be filled with 'Best Dramatic Actor" performances. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

What I like about these types of movies is that they are FUN! It's not trying to teach me a life lesson, or educate me on some moral issue, it's just a Fun ride. I leave the theater relaxed and refreshed because I was not weighted down by deep plots and 'serious' issues.

And for the books-to-movie transition thing, I saw and loved the first 'Dune' movie, but when I saw the movie I had not read the books. But you know what? I read the book and was amazed at how much of the book got into the movie. And get this I still like the movie version of Dune the best. I have friends that have a (shall we say) 'Totally Opposite' position on the movie.. They Hate it. And what's worse, they LOVE the Dune Mini-Series that came out a few years back.. I did not like the mini-series I found the sets and characters to be too 'clean' and did not have the same 'lived-in' feel of the Movie. The mini-series might have been 'true to the written word' of the book, but I think the Movie did a better job of capturing the 'heart' and 'feeling' of the book.

So what does all this mean? It means I Liked Sahara, now I might have to go find the books, it sounds like they would be worth reading.

Nuf Said, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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First Baron tempts David Gervais into playing Privateer Remake, now Atrocities talks David Gervais into reading a novel. At this rate, SEV will never be finished!

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Aaargh! If there isn't a law against mentioning Starshi* Troopers in this forum, there should be!

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I have consistently found that the reviews by those 2 clods are about exactly opposite from what I like. So if I ever catch one of their reviews, I just reverse their verdict. Haven't been disappointed by that method yet.

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Woh, wait a minute.

There's a sequal to *STARSHIP TROOPERS* (the book)?!?!?!

Whats that name again? Gotta drop by the local library ten minutes ago!

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Drat, not in the library system. That sucks.

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I'm not aware of a sequal to the book. A sequal to the movie is supposedly in the works.

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Personally I thought the Starship Troopers book sucked. Whoever tried to write had obviously never seen the film, or wasn't paying attention.

*dogscoff ducks

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Ed Neumeier on both films. Surprise, surprise. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'm new to the forum, so I missed the earlier SST discussions (darn!). SST 1 is probably my second favorite sci fi comedy of all time (surpassed only recently by "The Day After Tomorrow").

Funniest SST 1 line: "The MI doesn't mint stupid troopers!"

Funniest gadget: The coffee cup asteroid detector (I mean, come on, DR's boobs exerted a greater gravitational pull than that asteroid).

Biggest mistake: Leaving DR out of the shower scene (cost millions at the box office).

I caught SST 2 on cable: lower budget and not as funny, but it still has a couple of bright spots. Kelly Carlson http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif displays her Nip/Tuck body a couple of times, and Brenda Strong (aka Captain Deladier in SST 1) returns as a tough-as-nails infantry sergeant. The MI is still the biggest bunch of ####ups in the known universe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif , and the bugs are still smarter than humans.

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Dirk Pitt books rock. But the actors that have played him have not been up to the task.

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LOL AHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHA I do so hope you are kidding with that line Doggy SST the book came first!!!


Yeah the name of Starship Troopers the sequal (book) is supposed to be something like "Combat Commmand" or something but I haven't been able to find it at all and am thinking I Just suffered from a bad joke http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Well that just shows how bad it was. The guy who wrote the book obviously didn't get it all as I said in my first post, so they had to make the film to straighten him out. Hopefully now the film is out, ppl will forget about the book.

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I hate to say this, but I never read starship troopers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Nor did I read Battlefield Earth and we all know how that movie turned out. I did however read the Black Hole as my first big book without pictures, and I did that in the fifth grade.

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Dina Meyer (Diz) also played the Romulan commander in ST:Nemesis

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AT, I totally recommend Starship Troopers. As said before, it's nothing like the movie so just forget about what you saw in the movie. Starship Troopers was recommended to me in grade school. It was my first science fiction book. The rest is history.

Regarding the Black Hole... I read a book called that and it was made into that (Disney?) movie. Are we talking about the same one? Where the mad scientist has a ship on the edge of a black hole. The mad scientist has figured out how to shield his ship from gravity and he has transformed all his human crew into zombie-like servants?

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This is all I could come up with for the name combat command in relation to starship troopers: http://www.gamebooks.org/show_series.php?id=92

On a side note: I find that everybody is stupid in their own way, you just have to find out how.

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On the bright side, everybody's smart in their own way.

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And then...?

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OMG. That is just so horrible.. It is not even funny. Please; this joke has gone way to far.

Heinlin is one of the top SciFi writers ever; he is up there with Asimov and the guy who did Battlefield:Earth (Man, that was a good book...). His books are wonderful pokings and proddings at all number of things, with some wonderful and witty thought thrown in (porcupine defense... sounds like fun. How about telepaths on the ships exploring the galaxy? Classic.).

I mean, it is impossible to not like him, so please, cut the joke.

<note: edited to avoid comments that might get me banned if he was actually serious somehow>

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Yeah, that was a great film. THat was the one with John Travolta wasn't it? Loved that film, probably the only scifi film as good as SST.

BTW, have you heard they're bringing out books of the LotR films? I bet they suck...

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Speaking of "LotR" and "Battlefield Earth", I've heard that JRR Tolkien, who wrote the "LotR" scripts, was such a fan of L. Ron Hubbard that he named the chief Rivendell elf after him. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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It's humor, Ron.

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I just hope everyone's joking about Battlefield Earth being any good. Three weeks of my life I want back.

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In my opinion Battlefield Earth the book didn't suck. It was a fun read and a good scifi story. It wasn't great literature, but honestly not a lot of scifi is great literature.

I started reading the Hubbard decalogy, what was that called, Invasion Earth or something? I read the first five I think. It just went on too damn long. If he had made that a trilogy I think it could have been really good.

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well I have even more ammo to prove that Roper is a dumbass. I went and saw Sahara tonight and I thought it was a very well done movie. I don't know what movie those two saw, but the one they reviewed sure as hell was not the movie I saw. Perhaps they were to busy chatting or sleeping to pay attention to the moive. It went to great lengths to make its points and I found it easy to follow and very enjoyable to watch. THIS just proves the old saying, if Ebert and Siskle, now Roper, hate a movie... Go see it, if they love a movie, rent it on video. Hell IIRC, Ebert thought Gandhi was the most exciting movie of the year when it came out, and bombed Star Wars when it came out.... Go figure.

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We are, one in the same. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Which if you think about it, wouldn't that be a neat thing to have in SEV? A Black hole portal to another system? (Think The Legend of Zelda light and dark worlds.)

It would be a cool thing, have the tech to go through a black hole to see what is on the other side.... Is it a dementional worm hole, or does it lead to no where in which case your ship never returns.

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Since I was flying to europe when the battlefield earth film came out I bought the novel to read on the plane. I found it disapointing. I'm not a great fan of books where the primitive humans easily fool the stupid alien conquerors. I ask, if the aliens are so stupid how did they conquer Earth in the first place. obviously just because of their technology. As for the Invasion Earth series I got sick about reading of lesbians doing SM to the main character. It did have one good bit I must admit, don't get into a fight with people wearing cleats.

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It wasn't so much that they were stupid as corrupt and over confident. The humans would have never been close to even winning their indepenadance if it weren't that most of the Psyclo's were too busy covering their own arses and trying to figure out how to get personal advancment out of every situation. The part about wiping out the entire Psyclo empire in one fell swoop was a little hokey, but Hubbard was just trying to make a point about a soceity that depends too heavily on technology being primed for a catastrophic fall.

Every civilization eventually falls. It's not a matter of a lack of intelligence. Would you say "If the Romans were so stupid as to allow a bunch of little backwards tribal nations to wipe them out, how could they have conquered the all that territory to begin with?" The Psyclo's, like the Romans were an old empire. They had held earth for a thousand years. Who knows how long they had been in power on other worlds before that. The corrupt, self-interested psyclos that allowed themselves to be overthrown weren't the same ruthlessly efficent Psychlo's that had conquered all those planets thousands of years before.

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I just liked the movie Sahara... The BFE movie did not interest me and I rented it and thought it was a cool idea but poorly implimented. As for the books, well the vibe I got from fellow Sci-Fi readers at work was .. Book bad - Movie bad.

For SST the vibe was ... Movie very bad, books ok.