cant play s.e iv anymore
 

since ive seen the screenshots for s.e v i just cant seem to get into a good game of s.e iv anymore,i start a game but soon lose interest,them pics have spoiled it for me at the mo.lol.
anyone else feel a little of the same?

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

Sorry to hear it. SEIV is a wonderful game with a lot of life still left in it. I may not play as much as I used too, but I still love the game.

I spent the better part of a month making all new federation ships sets for four federation races in the STM and I cannot even use them in SEV. So really SEIV is the better game for ship modelers.

I think of all the work I have put into ship sets and it makes me very depressed to know that I cannot use my models in SEV. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif So enjoy SEIV while you still can.

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SEV isn't due until fall at the earliest, and even then will probably require multiple patches before it's really "playable". That's a long time to go without conquering a galaxy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

Why not try your hand at modding for a while?

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I'm playing solo SE4 a little bit more now. I'm trying out new, unproven, borderline-suicidal tactics against the A.I. with high bonus. Just to see what happens.

Funny thing is I was just begining to work on my first mod ever, and it was so slow going that it just seems kinda pointless, what with info on SE5 staring me in the face.

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

Yeah, I can't wait for SE5 to come out, too. I'm certain that I won't play SE4 very much after getting SE5, just like I don't play SE3 anymore... it's just not the same once something new and better is available.

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

I'll continue playing SE4 for as long as the PVK Proportions Game 1 on PBW continues to run. Or until I get wiped out of the game, one or the other.

There's a few decades left in that game alone, I think.

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I wonder what the oldest and the longest running games on PBW are.

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

Well, that one I just mentioned is at least 3 or 4 years old...

And I've been in it since turn 1!

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How can a game run that long without coming to some type of conclusion? Is this a one turn per week type of game, or have the players sorta agreed to "play nice" with eachother? In the games I've been in, once a guy gets pretty large, the game sorta goes to another phase where it resolves itself: either the big guy is killed by the smaller guys uniting, resulting in the smaller ones dividing up the spoils (and usually giving them the spur to go for broke themselves) or the big guy gets so powerful that nobody can stop em. How is it that a PBW game has gone on for so long?

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

on average, I'd say about 2 turns/week.

The main factor in the game's slow pace though is that it's running on an older version of Proportions. If you're not familiar with Proportions, it slows play down a LOT (wonderful!), and the mod was all pretty new when we first started the game, so we were all playing cautiously as well.

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The PVK Proportions game #1 just past the 3 year aniversary a few days ago, it started on March 29, 2002. At turn 261 that's about 1.6 turns a week on average. I was in the game at the start but dropped out over two year ago. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

We have one game still running that's older. The Borg Open challange game, started in July 2001. That one is only up to turn 167 so they don't do turns as often apparently. It's probably about to wrap up since there are only two players left.

We have three games with more turns then the Proportions game. Currently the leader in that department is TDM Round 2. This game is on turn 361. It's only a two player game, which tend to go faster. They started in June of 2004 so they have done better than a turn a day for almost a year now.

We don't keep stats on games that are finished and have been deleted so I can't tell you what the most turns in a game ever is, but I'm pretty sure the oldest game ever is the BOC game. It's almost as old as PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Geoschmo

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

Same here. Can't play SEIV anymore. I might change my mind in Summer or Fall, but if I'm going to play anything, I'd probably dust off Starfury, play through that again, and then dream of maybe learning how to model if I thought I could import into SE5...

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

i didnt think of that,ive made 2 shipsets as well so far,i wonder what we gonna need to make sets for s,e v

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

Try Wings 3d. It's pretty easy to learn and free.

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I can't even do 2D art, so I'm even more worse off than you guys.

Don't feel bad: there is *always* somebody worse at something than you are.

Corralary: There is always someone better than you are.

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

2D is a hell of a lot harder than 3D, trust me. If you don't believe me, compare my 2D drawn shipsets with my 3D rendered ones.

http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/viking.htm
http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/valkyrie.htm
http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/KanesS.htm

Re: cant play s.e iv anymore
 

I started working on a mod for SEIV a while back, but found too much hard coding in the way of what I was trying to accomplish. Here's hoping SEV is a LOT less hard coded.

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif 2D harder than 3D? Weird... OK, maybe I'll try someday...

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Dedicated hard core players and the Propotions Mod = LONG GAME. Normal good games go at least a year. Really good games go between a year and two years. And superb games go longer than two years. Excellent games go longer than three years.

I have yet to play a good game that has NOT gone a year. Those game are the best... Although I just surrendered in QOC game after a year.... I could have kept going but I was in last place being so far behind the second to last player by twice his score that to continue, especially with the limited time I have, was the better thing to do.

When you get into a good game, it just feels good to play. Especially when you start to click with your allies and such. The first 12hr onslought game was one such game, and so was the SSFF II game with CNC, Gandolph, Tnarg, and so on.