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spoon May 13th, 2005 03:34 PM

OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I got to see this movie last weekend (gloat gloat), and I have to say, it is on par with episodes IV (A New Hope) and V (Empire Strikes Back). If ep's 1 and 2 scared you away, you might want to reconsider for this one.

Now, I am going to say something shocking, and it may just be my giddiness speaking, and maybe my opinion will change in a few months, but here it goes:

Ep III is now my favorite movie of the entire series.

It's that good. Go see it!

(disclaimer: Going to see this movie makes my employer wealthier http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

Ragnarok May 13th, 2005 03:54 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I cannot wait to see this movie myself. Just from the previews I cannot help but think that it will become one of the better movies in the series. I think this is what we all have been waiting for as Star Wars fans. Hearing your opinions only reinforce my thoughts.

BTW, I am friggin' jealous of you now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img]

David E. Gervais May 13th, 2005 07:15 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Hey Spoon, did you happen to see that screening at Skywalker Ranch? I know someone who spent a week there as a guest. Got to see all the goodies and even had lunch with Mr Lucas. I won't say I'm jealous, but visiting Skywalker Ranch would be the equivalent of a dream vacation to me. Who needs Disneyland or Epcott Center. Put up a Glass wall on one side of ILM and let the hordes of fans get a peek inside http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I know I'm going to like the movie, because I liked them all. the only down side was Jar Jar, but he's easy to ignore after seeing the film a few dozen times.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

tesco samoa May 13th, 2005 09:42 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
its gonna suck. and I am going to be there complaining on the first day... then a few days later with the wife... and maybe one more time... but i will hate it each time out of principal. It is the logical way to watch it from a trek fans point of view http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

narf poit chez BOOM May 13th, 2005 10:45 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I might actually see it.

Renegade 13 May 13th, 2005 10:53 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I've heard it's supposed to be "darker" than 1 and 2...lets hope so, the darker the better.

Tesco, I'm with you. Us Trek fans have to hate it on principle. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

geoschmo May 13th, 2005 11:00 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Can't wait. We are thinking about driving an hour to Columbus to watch it. We heard they have a theatre there showing it on a 65 foot screen in all it's digital glory. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Hey by the way, I'm a little bummed hearing Lucas say this is the last of the Star Wars movies. I distinctly remember back when the original came out Lucas saying that there were actually supposed to be nine movies in the saga. This was before Episode I came out, back around when Empire came out if I recall correctly. There was going to be the three prequels and then another set of three that took place after the Return of the Jedi. Now he says these six are all there are going to be and all there ever were going to be. Is this my mind playing tricks on me or another case of Lucas changing the past to fit what his current view is?

Fyron May 13th, 2005 11:26 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
More of good 'ole Lucas revisionism.

Slick May 13th, 2005 11:27 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Nope, Geo, you are remembering it right. But Lucas did say emphatically that there will be no more Star Wars movies after III.

douglas May 14th, 2005 12:01 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
With all the books published and officially recognized as canon, he'd just about have to either use the plot of an existing book trilogy, skip several very eventful decades, or cover a drastically less important/more obscure plotline than anything in the first six movies in order to make a sequel trilogy. If he ever did have an outline for movies 7-9, either it's already been published in a trilogy of novels or it flatly contradicts a substantial amount of now-official canon.

Slick May 14th, 2005 12:07 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
A long time ago, I had read the Han Solo series, so recently I got the urge again and I thought I'd start reading some other Star Wars books. I did a search http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif There's like a million books. I was totally intimidated. I even found a website that recommended a certain order to read all the books, although they all aren't supposed to be exactly sequential.


edit: recognize my avatar???

Fyron May 14th, 2005 01:07 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Slick said:
edit: recognize my avatar???


Whomeever could that be? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

narf poit chez BOOM May 14th, 2005 01:09 AM

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It's Mr. Really Tiny Head Guy!

General Woundwort May 14th, 2005 02:05 AM

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Quote:

recognize my avatar???

I've got it! I've got it!

Young Indiana Jones! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

geoschmo May 14th, 2005 09:11 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

douglas said:
With all the books published and officially recognized as canon, he'd just about have to either use the plot of an existing book trilogy, skip several very eventful decades, or cover a drastically less important/more obscure plotline than anything in the first six movies in order to make a sequel trilogy. If he ever did have an outline for movies 7-9, either it's already been published in a trilogy of novels or it flatly contradicts a substantial amount of now-official canon.

That wouldn't stop him. Nothing says he can't have a later movie script that contradicts things in some of those books. I am sure the people that write and read those books take them much more seriously then Lucas does. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

deccan May 14th, 2005 09:47 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

geoschmo said:
That wouldn't stop him. Nothing says he can't have a later movie script that contradicts things in some of those books. I am sure the people that write and read those books take them much more seriously then Lucas does. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Yeah, sometimes it seems that Lucas doesn't even take the Original Trilogy as canon, given the way he keeps changing things in them.

Atrocities May 14th, 2005 12:56 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Given the story line, and the pre-reviews, I hold no breath for this moving being anything other than sucky. I therefore - "will go and spend my $10.00 to see it just like all of the other geeks, dweebs, nerds, morons, fools, and fanatical sci-fi freaks." - Jimmy Kenel (?)

So help me God if this movie sucks, I will never go see another Star Wars movie in the theater again. (Duh)

Captain Kwok May 14th, 2005 01:27 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I'm just looking forward to the orbital battle over Corsucant.

I could probably care less about the finer details. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

NullAshton May 14th, 2005 03:35 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
You know, theres a big area before the movies that are void of books or anything like that. Movie about the origin of the jedi, anyone?

Will May 14th, 2005 04:33 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Dude, you're forgetting something. In this one, that whiny little ***** Anakin finally sucks it up and KILLS EVERYONE. That includes all the little kids at the academy. Not only that, but from what I've heard, in the Obi-wan v. Anakin fight, good old Ben does the right and proper Jedi thing. He cuts off Anakin's remaining limbs (he already lost the arm, remember?), then leaves him to die by the side of a river of lava.

In the originals, everyone loved (well, hated...) Vader because he was, to borrow from Sam Jackson AKA Mace Windu, one badass mother****er. He was a great villan, and now we get to see the whiny little kid turn into THAT. Lucas tried to make villans to match Vader in Eps. VI, I, and II (the Emperor, Darth Maul, and Count Dooku). He only really marginally succeeded with Ep II, IMO, and only because it's friggin Christopher Lee, and he can pull of a good villan.

Sure, the effects should be pretty, and I'll probably watch a few times to see those, but what I really want to see is the Dark Side.

Atrocities May 14th, 2005 05:51 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I am just looking forward to the 30 minutes of commericals before the 90 minute video game promo movie.

Kamog May 14th, 2005 10:01 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I'm going to see it on opening night. I am taking that day off work and I'm going to buy the ticket ahead of time. I don't care about long lineups or crowds, I've waited three years for this movie and I'm going to see it the first night it comes out! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Kamog May 18th, 2005 02:20 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Today I bought my ticket for Revenge of the Sith. The showing will be at 12:01 am tomorrow night (technically it's May 19th). I'll make sure that I get to the theatre at least two hours early. I can't wait! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Sivran May 18th, 2005 04:41 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Anakin sucked because Hayden Christensen sucks. Hell, he makes Luke look fuggin' bad-*** by comparison.

Was Mark Hamill a "relative unknown" before Star Wars? I remember a rumor that Lucas wanted "a relative unknown" to play Anakin. I speculate that this may be because Star Wars pretty much ruined Mark Hamill, and Mark's apparently been bitter about it.

Strategia_In_Ultima May 18th, 2005 05:48 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

Slick said:
Nope, Geo, you are remembering it right. But Lucas did say emphatically that there will be no more Star Wars movies after III.

Yes there will be.

Eps IV, V and VI.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif



No, really. I've read the story outline on Wikipedia and I've browsed through an EpIII vehicle cross-section book in a bookstore, so I want to see it, even simply to see Hayden F***headsen turn into Vader.

Plus, there were two posters advertising EpIII in Stockholm's Central Station, on the way to the train. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Randallw May 18th, 2005 07:37 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

Sivran said:
I speculate that this may be because Star Wars pretty much ruined Mark Hamill, and Mark's apparently been bitter about it.

Mark Hamill isn't at all bitter. He's got a good career doing voice overs these days and is very supportive of whatever GL does with Star Wars.

tesco samoa May 18th, 2005 09:45 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
going friday and sunday.... no doubt that will be 5 hours of my life i will never get back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ragnarok May 18th, 2005 11:29 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I am going Friday night. A friend is picking up the tickets for our group today.

Will May 18th, 2005 11:53 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

Kamog said:
Today I bought my ticket for Revenge of the Sith. The showing will be at 12:01 am tomorrow night (technically it's May 19th). I'll make sure that I get to the theatre at least two hours early. I can't wait! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif It kinda sucks that most of my friends have gone off for the summer, but even if I can't find other people to go with, I still have my ticket and will enjoy the experience of The Line one more time (went to midnight showings of Eps I and II, wasn't yet born for IV, V, and VI)

Then I get to go to work at 8am, ditch work at 11 to go to class, then head back to work until 6. Not the worst thing ever, but I've been used to extra sleep lately http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Captain Kwok May 18th, 2005 12:30 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I have my tickets for after work tomorrow.

Iron Giant May 18th, 2005 02:26 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I just picked up 13 tickets for the 12:04am showing here in Boston. We're watching EP I and II tonight starting at 5pm, then heading over.

EP I and II could have been better, but they weren't bad, just sloppy. GL has given in to the very thing he said he wanted to get away from, the idea that SciFi doesn't have to be good since no one cares. He decided after The Empire Strikes Back that he can do anything he wants and make silly decisions (like Ewoks and Jar Jar) and we'll lap it all up just because its SciFi. He started strong, too bad he didn't finish strong.

But part of the problem is he always had the story in his head, and we're all just coming in on it now. Anakin USED to be a good kid with Good Jedi potential. So him being redeemed at the end of Return of the Jedi made sense to GL, even if it looked sappy to us.

Well the reviews are looking positive, I'll find out in, oh, 11 hours or so.

On the Star Wars Books: Timothy Zahn.

IMHO, don't waste your time with anything else. IIRC, Timothy Zahn is the only Star Wars writer who GL has borrowed material from. The capital planet of Corusant was Timothy Zahns idea. GL liked it so much he copied it. TZ also had a couple characters (like Grand Admiral Thrawn) that GL has labeled (off handedly) as cannon.

David E. Gervais May 18th, 2005 02:55 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

Iron Giant said:
On the Star Wars Books: Timothy Zahn.

IMHO, don't waste your time with anything else. IIRC, Timothy Zahn is the only Star Wars writer who GL has borrowed material from. The capital planet of Corusant was Timothy Zahns idea. GL liked it so much he copied it. TZ also had a couple characters (like Grand Admiral Thrawn) that GL has labeled (off handedly) as cannon.

Ahem, you do know that Timothy Zahn had unprecidented 'access' to Lucas while writing his novels and that he was "In the Know" as they say regarding what was/is in lucas's head regarding the SW universe. I think Lucas even gave hin acess to much of the background story stuff he wrote. So don't be too sure who's idea is who's. I'm not knocking TZ, in fact he is my favorite SW writer, he's even a better writer than GL, but then again TZ has much more training in that area.

Just thought I'd point this out.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Combat Wombat May 19th, 2005 06:45 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Well to stay consistant with the constant irony that is my life. I went to the midnight premiere at the largest theater around and the got into the largest screen and got the far back middle seats. 2 minutes before the movie ended the film melted and we all got full refunds and spent the next hour laughing.

Wonderful movie though I give it ***** stars

Will May 19th, 2005 06:49 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Just got back from the midnight show. One of my friends ended up calling me at work in the morning asking if I was going (like it needed to be asked!), so I was able to enjoy The Line with a friend instead of being by myself.

Quick review: I would rank the movies in the following order... V, IV, III, VI, II, I (although it's a pretty close tie between IV and III). Great visuals, decent acting except for a few moments, and there were one or two points where I was laughing, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to (all I'll say is "NOOO!!!!", the people who have seen it will understand, the people who haven't soon will).

Pretty much the only things I didn't like were the dialogue in several points, and that I think the transition to the Dark Side was a bit rushed. Now if only I and II could have been as good...

Randallw May 19th, 2005 07:22 AM

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Quote:



Pretty much the only things I didn't like were the dialogue in several points,

I have one word in support.....battledroids (or is that 2 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif)

Kamog May 19th, 2005 07:28 AM

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
 
I just got home from the movie. It's excellent! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Go see it!

The theatre was absolutely packed. I had bought my ticket a day early for the 12:01 showing. I got to the theatre around 9:15. There were already several hundred people lining up outside! This theatre has about 12 screens and 5 of them were showing Episode III, so there were 5 lineups outside. Boy, was it crowded. And it just got more and more crowded. Some guys had light sabres. So from 9:15 to 12:01 I spent the time waiting in line or sitting in my seat waiting for the movie to start. It was well worth the wait.

I will go see the movie again probably another four or five times within the next couple of weeks. I hope they come out with a boxed DVD set of all six episodes, I'll definitely buy it.

Urendi Maleldil May 19th, 2005 07:54 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Quote:

David E. Gervais said:
Quote:

Iron Giant said:
On the Star Wars Books: Timothy Zahn.

IMHO, don't waste your time with anything else. IIRC, Timothy Zahn is the only Star Wars writer who GL has borrowed material from. The capital planet of Corusant was Timothy Zahns idea. GL liked it so much he copied it. TZ also had a couple characters (like Grand Admiral Thrawn) that GL has labeled (off handedly) as cannon.

Ahem, you do know that Timothy Zahn had unprecidented 'access' to Lucas while writing his novels and that he was "In the Know" as they say regarding what was/is in lucas's head regarding the SW universe. I think Lucas even gave hin acess to much of the background story stuff he wrote. So don't be too sure who's idea is who's. I'm not knocking TZ, in fact he is my favorite SW writer, he's even a better writer than GL, but then again TZ has much more training in that area.

Just thought I'd point this out.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Actually the idea of a city planet for the capital of a galactic empire is from Isaac Asimov's Empire and Foundation series: a planet called Trantor.

Atrocities May 19th, 2005 08:22 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Well I saw the movie..... I think Lucas and his 6th grade dialog writing skills should be fired. The action was nice but man SPOILER did Wace ever get killed like a punk. Forced out a window..... oh well.

The movie was ok, a lot better than the previous two and more on par with the darkness of Empire. I did not buy the way they chose to kill off Padme' but hey, were back to Lucas's expert grasp on the english language.

Its worth seeing at least twice. Go see it.

Spoo May 19th, 2005 08:25 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
This movie has renewed my faith in Star Wars. I definitely recomend it.

Atrocities May 19th, 2005 08:28 PM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I always felt that the Tim Zahn wrote like he was sitting on the toilet. You know some people think they do their best creative work while pushing out a log, but in reality, when your dropping MOO3, everything sounds good. I did not like his novels. To unfocused and "well lets do this meondering thing now" filled.

Now as for Shadows of the Empire, excellent book.

The bounty hunter wars are UTTER TRASH. You have been warned.

Kamog May 20th, 2005 01:02 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
There was a lot of laughter in the audience in each of the scenes where Anakin and Padme are together, and Anakin says something that is supposed to sound sweet and loving.

bearclaw May 20th, 2005 02:00 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Amazing. Absolutly amazing. Was in line for the midnight showing, dressed as an Imperial Captain in a uniform my wife made for me. The experiance was... breathtaking.

Note to those who haven't seen it: expect nothing, you will be impressed. Expect too much and you'll be disappointed. That seems to have been the problems with EpI & II.

Grim. And dark. As far as I'm concerned, this very adaquately displays Anakins slide to the Dark Side. Pure evil. There's no doubt in my mind that Darth Vader is the ultimate villian.

I'm actually reconcidering taking my 5 yr old daughter. She's as excited as I was to see it though so I don't think I'll be able to keep her away from it. I'll just have to brace her for some of the darker, scarier parts.

My hat's off to GL on this one. Definetly

narf poit chez BOOM May 20th, 2005 02:32 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
From what I've heard about it, it might be best if you didn't take her.

Aris_Sung May 20th, 2005 02:51 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Yay for all who saw it at 12:01AM!!!!

I thought it was a good movie. Definately recommend it for all to see(But maybe not for young children. There may not be blood and gore, but there sure are alot of lost limbs. Did anyone else notice how there was a hand slicing off fetish?). My suggestion for a better viewing is to let yourself be amazed at what GL can do with what you already know is gonna happen in the movie. I'm probably gonna see it again on Monday since it's a holiday! Woohoo!

Here's a little quiz: Name the 4 characters that appear in all 6 movies.

PS. hmm...do you think Order 66 would work against the Heroes in SEV? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM May 20th, 2005 02:56 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
Hmm - Darth Vader, the Emperor, Yoda, Obi-wan Kenobi?
Off the top of my head, Aniken Skywalker and Darth Sidiuos (I think) for the real names of the first two.

Just guessing.

Aris_Sung May 20th, 2005 03:16 AM

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you got Obi-wan Kenobi right.

the other 3 are not seen in all 6 movies.
Appearances:
Darth - III, IV, V, VI
Emperor - III, V?, VI
Yoda - I, II, III, V, VI

narf poit chez BOOM May 20th, 2005 04:14 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
R2-D2 and 3PO.

Aniken was indead in 1 and 2 - So Darth was right. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Dragonswrd May 20th, 2005 04:16 AM

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I say Obi Wan, R2D2, C3P0, and Anikan. Ani because technically Darth Vader and him are the same person.

Dragonswrd May 20th, 2005 04:17 AM

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Dang you posted 2 minutes before me

Captain Kwok May 20th, 2005 08:42 AM

Re: OT - Star Wars Ep III
 
I saw it last night and enjoyed it a lot. Quite well done (aside from the usual star wars dialogue complaints) with lots of excellent lightsabre battles and some nice continunity touches to the original trilogy.

Some of the background scenery was just absolutely stunning, particularly the nighttime shots of the Corusant city.


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