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Why the double standard? I mean its ok for the Arabs to burn our flag, murder our soldiers, blow up our buildings, kill children, and behead inocent people and the world says nothing. Yet a false report of an a quran being flushed spawns a world wide holly war?

I say to hell with them. I say for every American those S.O.B's kill we take 100 quran and cover them in pigs blood and human waste, then flush them!

These hipocritial religious murding zealots either need to be exterminated as a whole, or learn to live with the rest of the civilized world.

I would not hesitate to deface a quran each and every time an American is murdered by these savage heathens! If they don't like it, well then, they can stop the violence. If burning one book, the quran, will save lives, then I say that is the best possible way to deal with the problem. Make it a holly war, go in there and burn all of their qurans!

Stop when they stop killing inocent people.

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Matching hate with hate, only allows you to end up with lots of hate.

No, I am not preaching turn the other cheek.

No I am not preaching love them even while they hate you.

It requires learning why they hate, and removing that reason for hating.

It requires being better than they are in actuality, not just believing they are worse and assuming that is enough.

It also means knowing when the noise is coming from a small few squeeky wheels just as it is really only just a loud minority here.

It is just as easy to just paint Muslims all evil fanatics, as it is to just paint all Christians right wing freaks.

Sometimes the above is true, some times not.

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@Renegade:
You seem to be mixing and matching here. You say the Arabs do terrible things but a report of defacing the Quran causes a worldwide response amoung Muslims. You do understand the difference dont you? Arabs are a small part of the Muslim world.

Thats like saying the protestant/catholic war in Ireland is doing terrible things so why would a government defacing the bible cause worldwide response. You cant mix a small groups actions to a large religious populations response.

You might want to take a look at who the muslim nations are before suggesting what you did. You would blow apart every major treaty we have on every continent. Most notably NATO and the Pan-Pacific alliances. Nothing like starting a war and losing your strongest allies at the same time.

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And your post is very racist.

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That would be totally counterproductive. One thing it would do is push more people across the line to actively opposing US interests, rather than just badmouthing us.

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I understood what he said but I think his main mistake is that he seems to think that he is talking about some patch of sand in the middle east. Many people make that mistake when the subject of Quran and Muslims comes up. Those sand nations arent even the major muslim countries. The US pissing at arab nations is VERY different than recommending that they start pissing on Muslim nations.

Once he gets that BIG error straight
THEN we can start hitting him up for his Arab comments. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Gandalf Parker

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I for one could care less about the quran, however I do not think desacrating a Quran would have any effect on the terrorist except to give them even more trumped up crap to insight even more resentment toward the US.

Yes there is a double standard, but when your dealing with people who, for the most part, feel as if we are trying to undermine their way of life, their religion, which is their way of life, then yes, we must treat them with extra care because their religion is their lives.

I get angry at times about what these son of *****es have done to us, and other around the world, and sure it would feel great to tear up a Quran and tell them that I did it, but in the end, even though I might feel better, it might cost some other man his life. For it is just a book to us, but it is far more to them.

I do not think your racist, I think your just angry over the double standard. It is true that if you are resented long enough, you begin to hate the resentor. In this case, as far as the militant fanatics go, I agree, they should be exterminated. But as a whole, islam is older than christanity and even with its flaws, it is still viewed as one of the purest religions on the planet.

Don't punish the inocent to hurt the not so inocent.

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No, it isn't. Islam wasn't founded until 622 AD.

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True. In fact, Christ is mentioned in the Quran (3 times I think). But I would agree with the other statement. And it does have a better record historically as a faith of peace.

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Really, I just watched a show about it on the History channel or was it PBS, regarding the Hodge and they clearly stated that Islam was far older than christanity by eons.

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http://www.wamware.com/world-religions/introduction.htm

I was also waiting for some comment about the Quran where "its the same god" could be popped into the thread since its the same god as the jewish and christian faith. Same sources. Much of the old testament is in it. It even lists Christ as a prophet

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Small aside - I always wonder why people use "eon" as a term to describe time, since an "eon" has officially scientifically been set to be 15 billion years - the age of our universe.

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Eon, era, epoch, and age.

I have seen those terms used fairly creatively in my time.

According to my dictionary

Eon a very long or indefinite period/an age of the universe/a billion years/an eternity.

The first entry sets the stage.
The second seems to mention the universe as the determinant.
Seems to think a billion is long enough to be one.
Eternity, well I think most of humanity has trouble thinking past the duration of an election, might as well forget all but a small part of the scientific community keeping Eon, era, epoch, and age in any manner of relevant order.

None of any of that matters to the religious community of course, as God made the world out of nothing only a few 10s of thousands of years ago, and they have no need for the word Eon.

Interesting that Judaism, Islam and Christinaity (in all its flavours) all have the same father, but seems to have several mothers.
No wonder humanity looks like a dysfunctional broken household eh.