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tesco samoa May 17th, 2005 09:25 AM

Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Very good move. And way up at the top.

Class act all the way.

Shrapnel Games looks after it members who wish to fill up a tera byte of data.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Gandalf Parker May 17th, 2005 09:41 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
I dont think it was a good move. If the SEIV race-for-posts is going to play straw on the camel then why make SEV part of it? Might show an opinion of SEV I guess. Thats too bad. I wonder why StarFury wasnt absorbed also?

ON TO THE TERABYTE! INSANITY UNITE!
Gandalf Parker

Anguille May 17th, 2005 11:19 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
This is getting too confusing...i prefered the way it was before too.

douglas May 17th, 2005 11:27 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
I liked them separate, too. At the very least, they should have moved the existing posts from the SEV forum to this one before scrapping it. If you're going to combine forums, don't lose posts in the process.

tesco samoa May 17th, 2005 11:39 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
well as time goes on its just one forum to look after. and the seiv posts will slowly stop and the sev posts will take over. Also I believe with the removal of SE from shrapnel that this part of the shrapnel community will slow down. Look at how many posts were getting a week now. It has slowed down. And it will only get slower and slower.

Phoenix-D May 17th, 2005 12:37 PM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Quote:

douglas said:
I liked them separate, too. At the very least, they should have moved the existing posts from the SEV forum to this one before scrapping it. If you're going to combine forums, don't lose posts in the process.

We didn't. They're all mixed in with the SE4 posts.

douglas May 17th, 2005 12:56 PM

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Woops, sorry, forgot about how much time it's been since the last post in the SEV forum and how many posts have been made in the SEIV forum since. Now that I look, they're there, just pushed onto the second page or farther down.

Mindi May 17th, 2005 01:03 PM

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tesco samoa said:
well as time goes on its just one forum to look after. and the seiv posts will slowly stop and the sev posts will take over.

This is precisely true and we have had people from the beginning asking us to just morph the SEIV forum into the SEV forum. Over time the SEIV forum would die out in favor of the SEV forum, and rather than lock the SEIV forum and move it down to the archive area at the bottom, we chose to combine the forums and move it into the Shrapnel Community category along with the Starfury forum.

Quote:

douglas said:
I liked them separate, too. At the very least, they should have moved the existing posts from the SEV forum to this one before scrapping it. If you're going to combine forums, don't lose posts in the process.

As you now realize, we did move all of the existing posts into this forum. You may not see them at the top of this forum because threads are automatically threaded based on last activity. The SEV forum didn't have a lot of activity yet, so the threads are probably not visible on this first page of threads. If and when someone posts to one of those threads, it will bump it back to the top.

Gandalf Parker May 17th, 2005 02:21 PM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
I guess we cant knock Shrap for putting it all in one basket (but you know what they say about all eggs in one basket)

Banking on the idea that SEIV will wind down as SEV picks up is having alot of confidence in SEV. There are still some variables I dont know which might make it not quite go that way. (the beta-testers know but of course cant clarify yet)

Its also majorly going to schlock when someone tries to do a search on a subject and gets them both mixed together in the results. Talk of mods and races and keypresses and tactics.

But back to the straw post threads! Come on. One more straw. This camel aint dead yet.

Fyron May 17th, 2005 02:30 PM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Thanks again for keeping us around!

tesco samoa May 17th, 2005 02:42 PM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
yes having all eggs in one basket is good for carrying them around http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif and takes less resources http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I am sure if you look at the metrics of single egg basket carries damages vs multi egg basket carries damages you will see that the % of damage vs the big breaking news story that the eggs broke support this theory of combining seiv and sev.

If you look at the following chart. I will add the final proof

http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/blanker/widsig.gif


This clearly shows that a waterfall average of 320 is achieved.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

eorg May 17th, 2005 03:05 PM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
thanks yeah - good idea imho http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif i am lazy you know :-)

douglas May 17th, 2005 03:19 PM

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My, that's a mighty detailed looking chart there, tesco, but it's lacking a few labels. Would you mind explaining just what each line, dot, and number means for us? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Arkcon May 17th, 2005 03:21 PM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
I just noticed yesterday, and wondered how long its been that way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I think its a good idea as well. Consider, after SE5 comes out, there will possibly still be some people with SE4 questions, they should be made to feel welcome.

Gandalf Parker May 17th, 2005 03:35 PM

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You feel that combining the groups will insure that SE4 people with questions will be made to feel welcome by the SEV players?

narf poit chez BOOM May 17th, 2005 04:30 PM

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Relax, guys. The forum ain't blown up yet.

tesco samoa May 17th, 2005 04:31 PM

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yep gand. i would answer a seiv question any time... as would the others... we weeded out the go look it up people a few years ago by attacking them every time they posted go seek your own help...

Suicide Junkie May 17th, 2005 05:05 PM

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Quote:

tesco samoa said:
yep gand. i would answer a seiv question any time... as would the others... we weeded out the go look it up people a few years ago by attacking them every time they posted go seek your own help...

As I recall, we simply buried them with the avalanche of answers.

The good old days of racing to try post a solution with the same timestamp as the question post, and succeeding a number of times.

Gandalf Parker May 18th, 2005 10:59 AM

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But were SE3 and non-gold questions answered? Or was it a bare response with a "you should upgrade" tacked on the end? It wasnt the answers I was wondering about, it was the "feel welcome in the SEV forum" part.
Gandalf Parker

Fyron May 18th, 2005 11:33 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Every single one of them was answered just as eagerly as questions aboute SEIV Gold were. This is about the farthest from an arrogant, elitist community that you will find on the Internet.

Suicide Junkie May 18th, 2005 01:37 PM

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GP:
You're still stuck on thinking this forum is anything like the mass of losers out there on most forums.

We don't have that many people, but I am being completely literal when I say that us forumers would race to post the fastest and most complete answers.
90% of them would be answered within 30 minutes, 24/7. There were a handful of memorable ones that were posted at 11:46, and answered at 11:46, 11:47, 11:49 and 11:50. With the latter posts being edited to say "Argh, I type too slow".
The thread would then fill up with posts about minor related details and corrections.
Then the posts would turn to strategies and tactics that were related to the subject, before finally fading out.

All because somebody asked "What does armor do?", there would be a deluge of info about all the types of armor, their side effect bonuses, the weapons used to defeat them, when it is worth researching them, and which combat strategy is best used with them.

--
Given your posts lately, you apparently have a very low opinion of us. While we did have issues between you and the forumers on that one unforgettable weekend, it is time to get over it. That was not personal; we would have responded the same to anybody who tried to do the same thing.

Since you can't really take our word for it, in this one case unfortunately, the only option in this case is to "look it up" yourself. Sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Compared to something like the counterstrike forums, you will see orders of magnitude fewer people, orders of magnitude faster and infinitely more useful answers.

Gandalf Parker May 18th, 2005 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Suicide Junkie said:
Given your posts lately, you apparently have a very low opinion of us. While we did have issues between you and the forumers on that one unforgettable weekend, it is time to get over it. That was not personal; we would have responded the same to anybody who tried to do the same thing.

Interesting theory but way off the mark. I have no low opinions of this forum and the people in it. Quite the contrary. Someday in a forum far far away I might fill in the blanks. But I totally recognize this as one of the great communities on the net.

Gandalf Parker May 18th, 2005 03:03 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
Every single one of them was answered just as eagerly as questions aboute SEIV Gold were. This is about the farthest from an arrogant, elitist community that you will find on the Internet.

I wasnt around then so that is good to hear. Im not convinced yet that the SEIV and SEV communities wont split as others have with sequels. So if we are going to be put into one forum for both then that willingness will be welcome.

tesco samoa May 18th, 2005 03:56 PM

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yes they should just rename it space empires http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mephisto May 18th, 2005 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Suicide Junkie said:
Compared to something like the counterstrike forums, you will see orders of magnitude fewer people, orders of magnitude faster and infinitely more useful answers.

Counter-Strike forums? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif *Running away in horror*

deccan May 19th, 2005 04:18 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:Im not convinced yet that the SEIV and SEV communities wont split as others have with sequels. So if we are going to be put into one forum for both then that willingness will be welcome.

The SEIV and SEV communities most definitely will split. The question is whether or not it would split here. Since Shrapnel isn't publishing SEV, there's little reason to think that new players who pick up SEV at mass retail stores will make their way here. My impression is that this particular forum is for people who started with SEIV (or before) and will soon move on to SEV. Occasionally, some new people may wander in, as you have by way of Dom2, but I doubt that there will be enough new people to split the forum here.

Randallw May 19th, 2005 04:30 AM

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Which raises the question if Strategy first has any plans to provide a PBW type service to all its new players.

tesco samoa May 19th, 2005 08:01 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
I do not see that in the cards.... But who knows

Gandalf Parker May 19th, 2005 10:07 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Strat-1st doesnt even seem to provide forums. All of the games seem to have forums but they all seem to be provided by the games developers. All different and on all different systems. Which is another reason to cherish these forums since my conversations with Aaron long ago about what it would take to "bring him back" leads me to believe that any forums he puts up will have quite a different feel to them.

I know that this forum is 90% of the traffic here (and 90% of the CPU and 90% of the archive). Thats alot of good info built up over the years

Slynky May 20th, 2005 12:45 PM

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tesco samoa said:
yep gand. i would answer a seiv question any time... as would the others... we weeded out the go look it up people a few years ago by attacking them every time they posted go seek your own help...

Coming in late (but what the heck!). Of all the forums I frequent, this one is hands down nicest and requires the least amount of warnings and barrings.

Gandalf Parker May 21st, 2005 10:21 AM

Re: Thanks for Combining the SE Forums
 
Yep its way sweet. And it IS the community here. Shrap has already upgraded 3 times for us. Software, forum server, backup server.


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