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Ed Kolis August 13th, 2005 11:01 AM

A preview of things to come?
 
http://boards.ign.com/Space_Empires/b6315/81067079/?3

My God... it's full of lamerz... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Strategia_In_Ultima August 13th, 2005 11:39 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Oh [CENSORED]..... Oh [Censored] [CENSORED]..... Somebody post there and set those guys straight!

They're probably both just frustrated 12-year-olds who are taking their psychological problems out on that forum.

By the way, anybody else notice that all other messages on that forum have been removed by moderators?

Xrati August 13th, 2005 11:45 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Don't give them the address here!!!
This gives new meaning to the word 'board' or would that be 'bored'? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

Raging Deadstar August 13th, 2005 12:41 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
My... It's like watching a fight between wolves over who can be the Alpha Male....just less interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

AAshbery76 August 13th, 2005 01:07 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Beware of strange warp points.

Thermodyne August 13th, 2005 01:25 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Xrati said:
Don't give them the address here!!!
This gives new meaning to the word 'board' or would that be 'bored'? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

Heck yes, let them come and recieve their just rewards. Post made, time to show them a warm welcome and then open a can of whoopass. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Fyron August 13th, 2005 01:28 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Saw this a few weeks ago when searching for SEV previews... Really, really sad.

Great googley-moogley! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif Thermodyne, what have you done? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Ragnarok-X August 13th, 2005 01:31 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
man damn that means trouble for us veterans..

Thermodyne August 13th, 2005 01:31 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
They wont last long around here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif This is a put up or shut up kind of place http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ragnarok-X August 13th, 2005 01:32 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Oh yeah, be damned Thermodyne, for leading 12-year old space kings here...

Thermodyne August 13th, 2005 01:32 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Ragnarok-X said:
man damn that means trouble for us veterans..

How so?

Thermodyne August 13th, 2005 01:35 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Ragnarok-X said:
Oh yeah, be damned Thermodyne, for leading 12-year old space kings here...

It's not like they havn't been here before.

Oh....and up yours too......Friend http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PS: Can you damn the undead?

Thermodyne August 13th, 2005 01:41 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
And be nice, one of them (there are only two) is a lady. This could be a chance for some of you to get your names in the Pittsburgh Observer Reporter, that's where it says she works. As a game reviewer.

Fyron August 13th, 2005 01:42 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Heard of the edit button? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif And must you really show that horrible sig in every single post? It wasn't that funny the first time... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Suicide Junkie August 13th, 2005 01:56 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Now I'll probably have to buy some internet-grade hip-waders.

We knew this was going to happen at some point... might as well start whipping these lost souls into a civilized shape now instead of later.

Raging Deadstar August 13th, 2005 02:00 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
I can hear the claxons and sirens yelling "Battlestations" in the Moderators secret war room.

Thermodyne August 13th, 2005 03:34 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Heard of the edit button? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif And must you really show that horrible sig in every single post? It wasn't that funny the first time... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Yes

Yes

And I'm glad you like it so much.

narf poit chez BOOM August 13th, 2005 05:53 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
[Zing!]Well, it's not like everybody here acts mature all the time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif [/Zing!]

Strategia_In_Ultima August 13th, 2005 07:44 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Ah, but acting immaturely is a lot different from acting childish. And that, plainly put, is what these two people are doing. Although there is a probability that the second person merely posted his/her post as a joke.

I do wonder which moderator on there is responsible for deleting all other forum posts? Judging from their titles, I think they're pretty relevant posts, so why delete them? Then again, if IGN is stupid enough to make that so-called "king of the board" a moderator, well.....

Phoenix-D August 13th, 2005 08:01 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
That isn't deleted posts, Strategia; that's IGN's "no thread necromancy" policy in action. Threads there are automaticlly locked by the board after a certain period of time.

Atrocities August 14th, 2005 12:51 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
IGN forums suck arse!

Puke August 14th, 2005 03:31 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Thermo, if you really wanted to "show them how its done" you could have posted somthing helpful, mature, and informative.

Timstone August 14th, 2005 08:45 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Hmm... interesting. I'm curious on how those litte kiddies will make their entrance here... if ever.
But giving them "our" link is a bit tricky. I hope it won't get crowded here.

Thermodyne August 14th, 2005 09:51 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Puke said:
Thermo, if you really wanted to "show them how its done" you could have posted somthing helpful, mature, and informative.

Ummm……Who says I was trying to be any of that. It’s a crappy little (well actually quite big) forum mostly full of kiddy crap. The post fits the theme of the thread. My intent was to introduce them to the core community. Like everyone else, they can look around and lurk for a while and see how things are done around here. Lord knows, this place needs some new blood. Look at how few people are the authors of the majority of the posts around here.

Thermodyne August 14th, 2005 09:52 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
I’m surprised at you guys. MM has decided to take the game retail, which means that the majority of the people introduced to it will be kids. And this is “the” SE forum at the moment. It’s not a private forum purely reserved for the use of a few SE hardliners. I would imagine that SG would like it to generate traffic and new customers for their games. Thing are going to change, and a lot of the old guard won’t like the results, but such is life.

AMF August 14th, 2005 09:58 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
That's a good point. If we really want SE5 to succeed, then we need to be prepared for a lot of new players to the game - and, if this is THE forum for SE5 then it will need to be ready.

However, I am not sure this will be the official forum - given that Shrapnel will not sell SE5, I suspect that whichever company does will have an official forum - which may very well be less rigorous (in terms of friendliness, intellectual level, maturity, etc...)...

But, really this is all sort of premature...and I do sound a bit arrogant in the above statement...I am reminded of the truism that every generation thinks the newcomer generation is composed of losers/slackers who didn't suffer and grow like they did....so...nevermind! Progress is progress.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Quote:

Thermodyne said:
I’m surprised at you guys. MM has decided to take the game retail, which means that the majority of the people introduced to it will be kids. And this is “the” SE forum at the moment. It’s not a private forum purely reserved for the use of a few SE hardliners. I would imagine that SG would like it to generate traffic and new customers for their games. Thing are going to change, and a lot of the old guard won’t like the results, but such is life.


Ragnarok-X August 14th, 2005 10:15 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Yeah, but maybe Fyron will offer us a private board over at SE.net. Honestly, i dont like being crowed by kids, i like the offtopic, serious talk here quite a lot.

AMF August 14th, 2005 11:05 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
No! It's stupid. I'm the sooper master at this board! WAH WAH WAH! Me space emperor! Ypu POOPY HEAD! BOOYAH!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I agree.

Quote:

Ragnarok-X said:
Yeah, but maybe Fyron will offer us a private board over at SE.net. Honestly, i dont like being crowed by kids, i like the offtopic, serious talk here quite a lot.


Xrati August 14th, 2005 11:37 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
I guess if change is inevitable! Bring on the kiddie crowd! But be warned that you may need more diapers then are available! The best way for them to get going here, is to start with a mature attitude. SOMETHING you will not be able to teach them over the internet. You are not their parents and all manners start at home.
Like I said before, "Don't give them the address here!" but now it's to late. Just like water seeks its own level, intelligent people/young adults will seek out an intelligent forum. Those are truly the people you'd want to stay around here! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon43.gif[/img]

Suicide Junkie August 14th, 2005 12:45 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
While this may not be the official "official" forum, it will certainly remain the unofficial "official" forum, if you know what I mean http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Thermodyne August 14th, 2005 01:40 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Xrati, Your post reminds me of a true life story.

In the town where I live, a large block of land was owned by a mining company. They wanted to dig a big hole and sell off the stone. We to a look at their facility on the other side of the county and decided we had to prevent them from ruining our town. We went to the county, we went to the state, we went to the feds, and then we got some lawyers and did it all over again. Then we got some good lawyers and went after it a third time. And just for good measure we tossed in a housing development that the mining company wanted to build on the edge of their property. So we have our days in courts all over the place, and in the end we prevent the big hole but get 60+ new homes and a big bill. So I kick in my share and move on.
Now the mining company has sold off the 1000+ acres and the buyer wants to build 2000+ town homes. The community gets together and led by the owners of the last new development, want to fight the developer. They say that it will ruin the value of their homes. So when they came calling on me, to see if I would contribute to the cause as I had done in the past, I declined. And then told them that I hadn’t given up on trying to keep them out!

All things change, some to your liking, some not. Since I’ve been around SE, this will be the third big change. Some to my liking and some not.

You can try to keep them out, but it might not be worth the cost. And in the end you will only slow them down. You’ll either have to adapt, or move on. If you want an exclusive “gated community”, then make one, it’s easy. Otherwise just sit back and see what happens. Oh, and I would assume that someone let you in here at some point. Doesn’t the rest of the world deserve the same opportunity?

Suicide Junkie August 14th, 2005 02:55 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Its not that we don't want newcomers.

Its just that we have a nice, classy place here, and its a lot of work to train the feral youth of the internet into civilized behaviour.

Renegade 13 August 14th, 2005 03:06 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
When first I came here (Sept. '03 if I remember correctly), I was only 16 years old. I came here for mature discussion, something that is sorely lacking in the younger age group, for the most part. And while I too do not like the idea of a having a bunch of immature "kids" coming around, I have to think of how I would have felt if someone thought of me as an "immature kid" before they even got to know who and what I am. Not too good, that much I can tell you. So I think what we have to do is make this place as welcoming as possible for ALL who want to join us here, and not make distinctions based upon age. Judge people for who they are, not how old they are.

Fyron August 14th, 2005 03:08 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
A lot of internet posters that are in their 20s or 30s act just as immaturely as typical 12 year olds... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Renegade 13 August 14th, 2005 03:16 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Very true Fyron. But a lot of people were talking about the age of the person, not the maturity level http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Puke August 14th, 2005 04:20 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
I dont want to keep anyone out, but challenging them with tripe like "think you've got some big ones?" isnt going to help them mature into productive members of this (or any) community.

Suicide Junkie August 14th, 2005 04:42 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:So I think what we have to do is make this place as welcoming as possible for ALL who want to join us here, and not make distinctions based upon age. Judge people for who they are, not how old they are.

People can lie about their physical age all they want, and on the internet, nobody can really tell. for sure. In an optimal world, nobody should have to *care* either.

But as soon as you start posting, your social/mental "age" is almost immediately obvious, no matter how hard you try to fake being older. A mature person can do a fairly convincing immitation of an immature character, but not the other way around.

I actually had no idea of your cronological age until now, and would have guessed at least 35. The apparent age is far far more important than the actual age.

Renegade 13 August 14th, 2005 11:14 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
It's odd how deceiving it can be, isn't it? How someone so young can seem so old, and vise versa. It's really too bad real life society can't be more like internet society. Here there are few preconceived notions of who/what someone will be like when the join. They are judged by their words, and by what those words reveal about their persona.

Of course, in real life people are often judged long before they even open their mouth to begin discussion. One's appearance plays the largest role, with age being high on the list as well.

I just wish people would judge based upon who people ARE not who they appear to be!

Well this has managed to become more of a philosophical discussion than I'd intended...now back to your regularly scheduled madness http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Atrocities August 15th, 2005 09:07 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Hey guys, I have to come clean, I am only really seven years old.

Xrati August 15th, 2005 10:47 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Yea, Right! You spell to well for a seven year old http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif BUT can you color within the lines?
I came to this board many times before I joined. I read the posts and I liked the intelligent posts that I read and I judged this site on that. I read the posts on the IGN site and I believe that the site opens itself up to the people that it draws. People tend to gravitate toward points of interest. I like the fact that even on this thread that people have taken both sides. It shows a well balanced following and a good natured side of people. I am, and have been very happy to find this site (It was through the SEIV Malfador site link). My only thought is that if these young adults do come here that they contribute to the posts and help make and keep this site what it is today. They will bring their own point of view and that's fine and welcomed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 15th, 2005 11:25 AM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Personally, and I know this is going to sound a bit harsh, but I think this community can survive a bunch of little kiddies better than it can survive an elitist attitude.

Xrati August 15th, 2005 02:37 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Personally, and I know this is going to sound a bit harsh, but I think this community can survive a bunch of little kiddies better than it can survive an elitist attitude.

I don't know about "elitist attitude" maybe more of a fear of change? While change is good! RIGHT? Most of us have seen changes in the past that weren't. It's up to everyone here today and everyone who joins in the future to make this site what it is!
Honestly, this is Shrapnel Game's site and the mentality of the posts on IGN probably tell you that the mind set is not that of a real gamer. People who 'game' have an special mentality along with the skills to actually understand that they are part of a community of others like themselves. There is no one who can stop those kids from coming here to this site and posting. I have seen groups of kids at the local game shop and I would be happy to game with them if I was into D&D type games. All you can do is show them what the rest of us are like and hope that they learn to become a functioning and contributing part of this site OR move on to seek their own level.

Renegade 13 August 15th, 2005 02:47 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:
Hey guys, I have to come clean, I am only really seven years old.

It all makes sense now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif So, when you joined back in 2000, you were about 2 years old? Or would it be 3? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif Let me tell you, you are one talented 7 year old!

douglas August 15th, 2005 04:04 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:
Hey guys, I have to come clean, I am only really seven years old.

Your profile disagrees. Your profile also misspells "psychopath".

Raging Deadstar August 15th, 2005 04:24 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:
Hey guys, I have to come clean, I am only really seven years old.

That Explains a Lot.

Mainly how come you're so talented at making Shipsets http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif DOGA I have heard is like a Lego modeller, and I know I did very little else at 7 Years Old than play lego. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

The real question is, Mac's age? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Ed Kolis August 15th, 2005 06:27 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
With his interest in Chainmail Ladies, I'd expect 69 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
(gets lots of rotten tomatoes thrown at me) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Thermodyne August 15th, 2005 07:40 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
The lady has posted that she is in fact 25, not 12.

Kevin Arisa August 15th, 2005 09:16 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
C'mon guys. Lets try to set a good example for these potential SE fans. Insulting the boards over there wasn't exactly a good first impression. Of course they dont compare to the ones here. It's IGN. 'Nuff said.

Lets just focus on showing them the kind of community we have here without sinking to the level of behavior so prevalent in internet society. If they aren't able to fit in here they will leave. So let's try to be friendly and welcoming so we dont scare off those who would be our fellow SE addicts!

Ed Kolis August 15th, 2005 09:38 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
And a game reviewer? Good God, I can imagine the reviews...

"Space Empires V... the game itself is decent, but the fan community is a bunch of elitist stuck-up *******s..."

Or maybe she'd even call US immature... please, guys, don't drag this community down to the lowest common denominator - remember, to them, we're a bunch of newbies, so please don't call them childish bastards or whatever! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

*points to Kevin Arisa's post*

narf poit chez BOOM August 15th, 2005 09:52 PM

Re: A preview of things to come?
 
I say we invade that thread with cake, party ballons and those caramel applies on a stick!

I always liked those apples.


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