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Dominions 3 - FAQ

It's been a while since I last visited these forums (though been playing Dominions 2 casually). I see some mention of Dominions 3 - is there an FAQ for Dominions 3 - or has it not reached that stage yet? When is it planned to be released.

Tals

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I don't think there is one. I don't think there even is an ETA.

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No FAQ, and no estimated publish date, but we do have some nice rumours and some other hints. Oceania, an official mod that came with the last update, shows the new underwater nation of DomIII. There are some bugs regarding their underwater units changing to land units and vice versa in DomII (think Mermen). The mod changes Clams to WWN, and this is probably what will happen to it in DomIII.

I have also tried to keep up with forum information. I have often forgotten to add things into it, but I don't think anyone else has done anything similar, so you have to be contempt with this:

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Kristoffer O

Re: New pretender gods [Re: Peter Ebbesen]
#294834 - Wed Sep 15 2004 09:29 PM

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Peter Ebbesen said:

Of course, for something potentially really nasty, you could have an Aboleth pretender for R'lyeh.... *shudders* Or even worse, and Aboleth *theme* for R'lyeh. The Aboleths have taken over and the star children are reduced to slavery under their Aboleth overlords... Possibly the only theme that would add leaders to beat Jotunheim's in cost.

What scrying bowl have you been looking into?

So... was he joking, or will we get an Aboleth theme?
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Re: Look at the press releases [Re: Pocus]

>Pocus
>Where is this dom3 progress page on Illwinter site?

Kristoffer O

#304235 - Mon Oct 18 2004 06:59 PM

Ha! It's secret.
Actually it is not in any good shape. We have been bad at keeping the change log up to date. Last post on our unofficial list says:
3rd sep
* New doom horror: Maker of Ruins
* Insanity

There has happened a lot since then, including the random map generation mentioned in the press release.

I hope you noticed that 'New Doom Horror' means that they have just become unique!
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Re: ArcoBlood Mod Finished [Re: Arryn]
#343063 - Thu Mar 24 2005 01:31 PM

Initially we didn't intend for good and evil, holy and unholy to be in the game. Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Unholy was added as an ad hoc solution to the fact that holy priests were more or less useless to undead priests of Ermor (dom1). At that time bless effects etc was handled a bit differently and most of ermors troops didn't have morale. Preaching was also something we imagined the undead didn't do. Therefore unholy priests were added.

Currently you can consider unholy those priestly powers that are influenced by the underworld and the unliving. Unholy has always felt a bit ad hoc. Especially when broken empire Ermor got unholy priests. They were made to be able to preach and reanimate.

Unholy is getting a rework in DOM3. Undead priests have 'unholy' powers of reanimation, but the unholy tag is removed. All priests are priests.

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Re: A thought from my brother and I... [Re: Scott Hebert]
#343499 - Sat Mar 26 2005 06:08 AM
Seems like a good idea to define a half dozen "empty" nations who's only purpose is to be modded (maybe with a set of some empty pretender, hero, weapons, units).

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Re: A thought from my brother and I... [Re: silhouette]
#343527 - Sat Mar 26 2005 12:05 PM

Adding a couple of empty slots is no big problem. Nation modding will be a lot easier in dom3. Themes are made as different nations and most stats can be modded or enabled for a given theme (province defence, production bonus, blood sacrifice etc).

This makes modding much easier!
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Re: Dominions 3 - FAQ

Oh, and you might be interested in the DomIIIDevDiary. It has been in few FRAQ! Newsletters, although it has been quiet for some months now. Here are the ones that were written:

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Prepare Thyself for Dominions III!

PRESS RELEASE -- This text is not created or endorsed by GameSpot.

Cary, NC, 18 October 2004 - Hardcore strategy gamers around the world should begin to stock up on massive amounts of caffeine and sugar laden food and beverages, for 2005 looks to be the Year of Insomnia. It is with great pleasure that upon this day Shrapnel Games and Illwinter Game Design would like to announce that work has begun on Dominions III, the direct sequel to the multi-award winning Dominions II: The Ascension Wars.

Dominions III will build on the foundation of greatness laid out in Dominions II, taking an already proven formula of addictive strategic gameplay and enhancing it in many ways. Some of these changes come directly from the input of the wonderful worldwide Dominions community, while others spring straight from the gaming genius minds of Illwinter. Here is but a taste of what to expect from Dominions III:

Several new nations, which in turn will increase the number of possible players to create some truly epic wars of ascension.
A brand new interface making it even easier to simply jump in and play.
A random map generator for endless game possibilities.
New battlefield backgrounds.
Many more exciting features!

Come now, you didn't really expect us to detail everything? Anticipation is a fantastic feeling, yes? As work progresses on Dominions III and the feature list becomes more solidified expect to see more features revealed, many of which will bring great joy to Dominions II players.

"Dominions III will be an excellent fusion of proven ideas and awesome new features, many taken directly from gamers whose passion for Dominions II is amazing," Tim Brooks, President and Founder of Shrapnel Games, commented. "This will be an evolutionary title that will give the faithful thousands upon thousands more hours of the unparalleled intense fantasy gaming they've come to enjoy with Dominions II."

While the current release date is "when it's done", gamers should expect to see Dominions III ascend in late 2005 if all goes well. Like Dominions II: The Ascension Wars, Dominions III will be available on a wide range of popular operating systems, including Windows, Macintosh, and Linux. Solaris will no longer be supported.

Keep watching www.shrapnelgames.com for more news on Dominions III, and for all your Dominions II: The Ascension Wars information please visit www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/d2/1.htm

By Shrapnel Games

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Dominions III Developer Diary

For the Christmas season we're giving our interviewees a holiday break. Interviews will continue next year, as soon as everyone gets all the egg nog and turducken out of their systems (hopefully not in the most direct and violent way). Instead we're bringing you the start of something that we're particularly excited about at Frag! HQ, the Dominions III Developer Diary by Illwinter Game Design.

Periodically the kind folks at Illwinter will share their thoughts on the Dominions universe, game design, or other such wisdom as we count down to the release of Dominions III. We hope you enjoy this feature! And now, for your reading pleasure, Illwinter Game Design...

Developer Diary 01
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Hmm, well, Hello!

There is to be a Dominions 3 developers diary, or so I hear. I have never written a diary and I have never seen a developers diary. So what should I write? Whatever comes into my mind I suppose.

My name is Kristoffer Osterman. I'm about 50% of the Illwinter crew. I am the master of the world (uttered in a booming voice). It is I who make the sprites and most of the unit descriptions in the game. I like to create worlds. I have done so since I was eleven years old and got my first RPG. So I am the master of the world. JK on the other hand is the watchmaker. He makes the laws of the world (he is the programmer). This makes division of labor easy. I make sprites, write descriptions, add new units and spells, and JK makes everything else work. Unless I find the inspiration to make a new monster it will not appear. So, I have a veto on the world, but JK has a veto on everything.

So, Dominions 3 is announced. The contract is signed etc. But what do we have in mind? What are we doing? What am I doing?

We began work on Dominions 3 late spring. We had some ideas that would take some efforts to incorporate in Dom2. Better start with something new. Or at least partly new.

During Origins we had some discussions with Shrapnel about were we wanted to go. They were all ears. We went home, took some well earned vacations and resumed work.

So what will Dom3 be like?

Hard to say at the moment. We rarely work after a plan. Changes are mostly done when we get a good idea or at rare occasions when something seems necessary.

The game basics will be the same. Nations, pretenders, battle orders, magic research etc. Those who have played dominions before will feel at home.

Dom2 was apparently not an easy game to get into, so we will have to work a bit on user friendlieness. This is scary. I'm friendly, but I don't know too much about Users.

Nations and themes:
Themes will be reworked and rebalanced. Many of the ideas from the forum has proven useful. Caelum now has it's three themes almost finished. Now I like the raptor theme, not just the idea. There are also some major changes in theme/nation setup. We are still experimenting here.

Currently three new nations are in the works, but it is likely that more will come. I have a year to go and I'm almost finished with these.

I like arms. Most Indian gods have several. Thus I like Indian gods. This month I have delved into Srimad Bhagavata Mahapurana, some other books, and Online resources to find more about Indian spirits and supernatural beings. Bandar Log, a new Indian inspired nation will have themes with additional mythological content and unique summons. Celestial apsaras and gandharvas as well as malign rakshasas and daityas will be available for the Bandar player.

There is also a couple of new gods. Some of eastern appearence others of mediterranean, northern or southern dito.

Some other stuff:
Morale system is remade. Perhaps we will be able to explain how it works now. Life drain altered, probably not for the Last time. Shields parry instead of adding to prot and def. Strikes in head dangerous. Keep your helmet on. Insanity instead of feeblemindness in the void gate. Nation specific researchable spells and summons.

Current unit count 1347. Thats 252 new ones. 17 new gods.

/Kristoffer Osterman

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This month I have been working mostly on the battlefield graphics. Dominions 3d engine has got a well needed update. There has been significant speed improvements for modern 3d cards. Forests now consists of thousands of trees and bushes, so if Dominions III were a FPS you wouldn't be able to see the end of the forest because of all the trees. Also new is the grass that covers the ground and will blow if there is a storm going on.

Other than graphical stuff I have been beefing up some old spells that weren't as featureful as we wanted as well as implementing a few new ones. Since most simple spells were already created in Dominions II any new spells that are added now usually involves quite a bit of coding. I try to stay away from recycling spell effect, because it is way more interesting with a different effect than another name and 10 points more of damage.

/Johan Karlsson

Stay tuned for more developer diaries in the future. Same Shrapnel channel, same Shrapnel time!

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Developer Diary 02
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Happy New Year!

Time flies. Another month, another year, another Frag!.

Christmas was good. Perhaps not for the development of Dominions, but for me, and
that is good for Dominions. The Last couple of days on the other hand has been a
productive time.

Yesterday I enjoyed a game of Dominions for the first time in several months. Lately
the game has been more or less unplayable. All nations and themes have been reworked
and placed in one of three eras. Until a few days ago it was not meaningful to play
games in the early or late era. The middle age is more or less the default themes and
has not changed that much. So when I started to play a game of the early Version of
Ermor I had a bLast.

I decided to try the small Faerun map. I have never played on it and must say that I
liked it a lot. With eleven opponents of which several are untested I was excited. I
reduced research cost and increased gold, res and supplies to 200%. I got a good start
and found that my legions did a great job against the independents of this early
era. Soon I was the most wealthy of the players, but I ran into Niefelheim, Jotunheim
in the early era. The AI had good taste. He made Bolvitner, a Niefel Jarl with heroic
toughness his prophet. When I first met him he had 135 HP. Next time 203. But Bolvitner
wasn't my main concern. It was his neifel skinshifters. They replace the woodsmen in this
early mythological era. They are not quite finished and I had all but forgotten about
them when they hit me. Skinshifters turn into wolfmen with additional HP when slain. So
do the niefel skinshifters. Skinshifters regenerate. The niefel skinshifters are
sacred. This particular skinshifter was blessed with berserker fury. My main army defeated
the niefel army, at a high cost. It did not defeat the skinshifter. It defeated my
remaining army including my Augur Elders and Pontifices. The problem with the skinshifters
was not that they were unbeatable, but that they only cost 70 GP. A slight oversight
that made my conquest of Niefelheim a real bother.

At the same time I was at war with T'ien Ch'i and Sauromatia.

Sauromatia? What?, you say. Before Christmas we begun a remaking of themes that will
make things easier. Both changing stuff and modding at a later date. Each theme is now
made as a separate nation. This makes it easy to add, remove and change nations. This also removes the need for a nation to exist in a given era. There was no Pythium before
the break from Ermor, but another nation lived near the marshes of Pythium. There are
hydras in Sauromatia, but the theurgs have not yet come. Witch kings, enaries and
oiorpata rule the steppes.

More of the recent stuff? National spells and summonings. Mictlan got a couple of new
blood summons. C'tis got a Devourer of Souls and a Sirrush. I was annoyed when I saw an
old archer and remade some early rezoomed sprites from Dom 1. It felt good. It felt
really good. Then I realized thet there are about one thousand sprites that needs a
remake and went back to Mictlan blood summons again.

Next step? Not sure. We just got some new fun ideas. Probably not very important for
game play, but great fun, especially for role players I believe. Take that you
grognards .

/Kristoffer

Re: Dominions 3 - FAQ

Weapons and armor will also have an intrnsic resource cost, so the rescost of units will be autocalculated based on their equipment, where total rescost = units base rescost (default 1 for mansized units) + equipment rescost.

Edi

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Are there any more editions of that Develpoer Diary, and if so where are they?

Ichirou

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No. I have been hoping new would come, and I think Illwinter has commented on it... They would like to have more information to give, but they would have to write the diary first. I prefer them working on the game, knowing what they have implemented already and drooling of what they must have added by now...

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I do remember that they were aiming for a release date for Dec 2005... yet they also said that could change. In most cases this does happen so expect late spring or summer next year.
Hopefully the developers have been reading the wishlist sticky thread.

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Thanks for all the info Endoperez and others!

From the dev diary, it sounds like the map stuff is going to be the same (since he used a dom2 map). For better or worse. I'm in a 'glass half full' mood so I think its great that we will be able to reuse the existing dom2 maps.

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RE: Reusing Map Stuff

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I am happy to reuse my own map, but not knowing Dom1 I hoped on the comment from the Devs that they liked the Dom1 mechanism more, where the Dominion could change the very lands where the worshippers where dwelling! This sound kinda cool! For in Dom2 Ctis is still at a disadvantage when located in a Swampy area - which is sort of counterintuitive, although miasma makes up for it...

...but Gods should be able to slowly change their lands of their worshippers, no? Anyone here remembering Populous? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif What about expensive terrain changing ritual spells? Of course, they would only make sense if terrain would affect anything else than initial populatiion and non-survival+non-flying movement...

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Yeah changing lands based upon heat/cold scale sounded neat. Perhaps they just havn't gotten to implementing that, although I seem to recall them saying it won't happen.

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In Dom:PPP, the map consisted of pixels. There was a color for every type of terrain. The pixels changed colors under the effect of scales and dominion. Income, population and resources were counted from the pixels (at least initially, I don't know if they were totally recalculated every turn). Storing lots of pixels isn't very effective way of slowly changing the world, and those maps were ugly, and DomII has and DomIII will have terrain-spesific sites and events, and special effects for spells (Howl), and hopefully lots more... But still, it was nice to be able to know a Cold nation started in Britain and a hot one in Scandinavia when the map changed towards white and yellow accordingly.

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Thank you much for the info folks. This board seems to have a very helpful community that quite frankly has helped me considerably in getting started in this game. And while I have just begun to scratch the surface of this rather deep game, I still find it very encouraging to hear that the developers are still working to improve and evolve the system. And I too would rather see the devs working on what they want to do rather than have to take time out to write a regular diary...but I do like reading them and getting a peak into the creative process. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Have you seen Gandalf lately? I don't remember reading his posts for a while. However, I checked the comp.sys.ibm.games.strategic to see what people said of DomII to get PCarroll (Newbie's first impression) in here. I browsed a thread of "I don't like FPS, I don't like MMO*, is there any hope", and found this:

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Gandalf Parker Sep 4, 11:35 pm

Dale M wrote:
> I am going to stop typing now that I feel better. If someone can provide
> me with any glimmer of hope... thanks for the suggestions.

Nice list.
tried Dominions 2?
Space Empires IV?

Presently Im also slumping. Dominions 3 is in beta. Space Empires V is in
beta. A great music game Im presently helping alpha test. Im back to
playing free online worlds just for some variety

Gandalf Parker

I didn't know that! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

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Hmm, this boards up-to-datiness seems to fade... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Any insiders still around?

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Dom III is still cooking merely away. I'm not sure if you'd say it is in beta or still alpha, but a lot of work has been done already. It is looking really, really good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Psitticine said:
Dom III is still cooking merely away. I'm not sure if you'd say it is in beta or still alpha, but a lot of work has been done already. It is looking really, really good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

1) Any small secrets or screenshots about DOM_3 ?

2) Has the Wishlist thread been helpful ?

3) Any Polls or specific idea topics the fans can create to help ?

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NTJedi said:
1) Any small secrets or screenshots about DOM_3 ?

This just cracks me up. You really are persistant NTJedi. You're a good guy to love Dominions so much.

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I can't really say anything specific, I'm afraid. Well, except that I do believe the wishlist has been helpful. Anything that provides insight into the player's experience is a good thing!

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Psitticine said:
I can't really say anything specific, I'm afraid. Well, except that I do believe the wishlist has been helpful. Anything that provides insight into the player's experience is a good thing!

Do we have any idea yet when we can be looking forward to the game. Is it a Late 2005 game or into 2006 (early/Mid/Late http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif )

Tals

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NTJedi said:
1) Any small secrets or screenshots about DOM_3 ?

Secrets, certainly. They are for the few chosen ones playing in the alpha/beta, and those clever enough find them on their own. I'm not sharing all of what I know... Just what anyone else should have seen, had they known to look for it. You might want to check what Gandalf has posted in the CSIPGS, as he might have something to offer I haven't seen. I haven't followed that particular group in a long time...

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I'm afraid I really don't have any idea. There are a lot of factors involved with that and most of them are well beyond my ken. The best I can tell you is that things seem to be proceeding smoothly and rapidly to me.

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I can't wait for Dom 3. This is the most awesome game ever and I am sure that Dom3 shall be even better.

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Yeah likewise, i'd hope that any info in there is known in here as well. I've no plan ever to return to that volatile mass of people that were the newsgroups.

Tals