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Wish October 10th, 2005 09:32 PM

conscription?
 
how does conscriptiopn work, I drummed up a tien chi pretender with high order in an attempt to see just how well it raises PD on its own. but the numbers, they aint moving.

does the dominion have to be at a certain strength or what?

quantum_mechani October 10th, 2005 09:55 PM

Re: conscription?
 
Quote:

Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
how does conscriptiopn work, I drummed up a tien chi pretender with high order in an attempt to see just how well it raises PD on its own. but the numbers, they aint moving.

does the dominion have to be at a certain strength or what?

It needs a lot of time, and has diminishing returns the higher the PD already is. Overall, an extremely weak ability, you would be hard pressed to find a situation where it is noticeable apart from the amusing PD underwater bug.

Alneyan October 11th, 2005 03:21 AM

Re: conscription?
 
Well, it might just allow you to get from PD 0 to PD 1, thereby saving you *one* gold per province, but even that doesn't seem to be working.

In addition, two of the themes for T'ien Ch'i do not allow for Order. Isn't that very fun?

PDF October 11th, 2005 08:35 AM

Re: conscription?
 
Yeah, poor Tien Chi...
If the real Chinese were as feeble as TC is they would just rule Taiwan by now ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Zooko October 11th, 2005 09:29 AM

Re: conscription?
 
Tien Chi is an excellent nation! Anyone who says bad things about Tien Chi is CHALLENGED to a DUEL.

quantum_mechani October 11th, 2005 11:12 AM

Re: conscription?
 
Quote:

Zooko said:
Tien Chi is an excellent nation! Anyone who says bad things about Tien Chi is CHALLENGED to a DUEL.

Yay, maybe vs. SG Ermor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

PDF October 11th, 2005 11:37 AM

Re: conscription?
 
Quote:

quantum_mechani said:
Quote:

Zooko said:
Tien Chi is an excellent nation! Anyone who says bad things about Tien Chi is CHALLENGED to a DUEL.

Yay, maybe vs. SG Ermor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Or Caelum .. RoR theme !! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

Ironhawk October 11th, 2005 02:44 PM

Re: conscription?
 
Hahhahh

magnate October 11th, 2005 06:43 PM

Re: conscription?
 
If Zooko wasn't kidding then I want you both to save the turn files - I have to see this ....

CC

Zooko October 12th, 2005 12:09 PM

A MATTER OF HONOR
 
That does it! I CHALLENGE you to a DUEL!

Maybe this coming weekend...

I can arrange to put the .trn files on a web server so magnate can look at them. My opponent and I will agree on our honor not to peek at the other guy's .trn files. How does that sound?

Zooko October 12th, 2005 12:20 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
If Ermor SG and Caelum RotR are considered to be "weak" themes for their respective nations, then I hereby agree as a matter of honor to take the Tien Chi "Barbarian Kings" theme.

Endoperez October 12th, 2005 12:42 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
Well, there was recently a thread about how duel between Soul Gate and the choice of nation against it. In the end, it was said that only Soul Gate Ermor can have immortal thugs so early, and they also have lots of free, ethereal chaff that wear down most of what their enemies can send at them in the early game. Soul Gate is definitely not a weak theme, it is at the least tied with Ashen Empire.

magnate October 12th, 2005 12:43 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
Er, I think the recent Ermor thread concluded that SG is perhaps Ermor's strongest theme, especially for 1v1. No idea about RotR, though it would be hard to be better than base Caelum.

Anyway, this is dead exciting. Don't worry about posting trns during the game - why not just keep your own turns archived on your PC (tienchi01.trn etc) and then zip them all up and post the zip file in this thread when the game's over. Then we can download both zip files and see how it went.

There's just the small fact that neither PDF nor QM have taken up the challenge yet ...

Good luck,

CC

Endoperez October 12th, 2005 12:45 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
Heh, quite a simultanous post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I'm not sure, but the host might be able to use --postexec to zip each new turn's .trn and fthrlnd files into a new zip. If --preexec exists, it would work even better, and could also copy the .2h files.

Ironhawk October 12th, 2005 12:51 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
Geez Barbarian Kingdoms - dont shoot yourself in the foot before the match even starts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif At least take S&A?

Regardless, I'll host the duel for you two if QM or someone else actually accepts.

PDF October 12th, 2005 01:07 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
Quote:

magnate said:
Er, I think the recent Ermor thread concluded that SG is perhaps Ermor's strongest theme, especially for 1v1. No idea about RotR, though it would be hard to be better than base Caelum.

Anyway, this is dead exciting. Don't worry about posting trns during the game - why not just keep your own turns archived on your PC (tienchi01.trn etc) and then zip them all up and post the zip file in this thread when the game's over. Then we can download both zip files and see how it went.

There's just the small fact that neither PDF nor QM have taken up the challenge yet ...

Good luck,

CC

Yeah, I'm the offender, but I won't be able to manage *yet another* game. I've 6 to play and act as sub in 4 more !!
And I'm a French pacifist http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
Will look at the replay yet : to me Ermor SG ain't that bad, and TC will be hard-pressed to stop them on a small "duel" map.
OTOH RoR is widely renowned for its weakness but in fact I've never played it !

Graeme Dice October 12th, 2005 01:12 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
I'd be happy to play a 1v1 against SG Ermor. I'd just need a couple of days to work my early game back up to snuff first.

Ironhawk October 12th, 2005 04:45 PM

Re: A MATTER OF HONOR
 
The challenge was to play Anything v TienChi (played by Zooko). QM implied he would use Ermor SG and PDF that he would use RotR.

And on a side note, I just looked at RotR and its really not as bad as I thought it was. Of course its not nearly as powerful as base caelum with its super cheap mages... but it just seems more normal, rather than weak, to me. I guess the lack of any random hurts.


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