If you could give one bit of advice to someone?
 

I just want to know, if you give just one bit of advice to someone new in the game, what would it be?

(you can't write read the FAQ!)

I love the game, but I am not a expert and cant give the best, but for me, I guess it would be something like...

(excluding if you are at max ships/units) remember if you are on + resources at end of turn and no storage for them, you will never get them back, so if you have a empty queue anywhere, build something you dont really need even if it is a few mines or fighters!

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For stock, "min/max your empire".

In general, "Expand as much and as fast as possible".

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"No question is too small, trivial or oft-repeated to ask on these forums. Post politely, and be amazed."

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Expand - Exploit - Exterminate - and Explore.

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Like Douglas, "Economy isn't the dismal science out there". Or the time-honoured "Stellar Manipulation" motto.

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So the question remains, what if you had this many leftover resources at the end of a turn and every ship/cnstruction yard in your empire is building ships of the baseship and larger size?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...resources1.JPG
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LOL LOL LOL

well I kind of meant in the beggining of the game when you sometimes have like +10000, and just buy a few units!

are you doing the same thing I usually do late on in a game, and every planet is full with monoliths and valve improvers?

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"Don't do 'Just one more turn'. End your turn, go to sleep, and actually be able to do something tommorrow."

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Ugh.
How about "please don't break the forum formatting by posting enormous, uncropped images"...

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Then, in a nutshell, you have too few spaceyards. You should be scrapping a facility on every planet that doesn't have a spaceyard to build one. And you should't be building baseships, you should be building Spaceyard Bases to add even more spaceyards.

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I do not play much pbw, only doing one with star trek mod, never done stock, and I only play ai on solo, fine with bonuses and stuff to the ai, so it is always on hardest, I still consider myself a noob as I have not yet beated human players.

but at the same time on that pic, I was sort of thinking the same, I would build more space yards, with resources like that, it is good and fun to stockpile for a pic, but unless it was a game to see how much you can stockpile, I would be building like 100 ships a turn!

if you cant beat your opponent through technology and superior ships, you can usually do it through numbers! and with resource numbers like that, you should win!

if I can ask, is that a stock game? I can not think how you can have so much coming in with that ammount of systems that is showing on the pic....

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Besides this advice, I would say be friends with everyone but your enemies. When you attack the others, kill them fast, consolidate and move to the next enemy. Long wars benefit noone, only keep you alive when you should be expanding.

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/me selects random quote for the "seven habits of highly effective pirates":

Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is 'open fire' and 'time to reload'.

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...according to the principles of this article. Having less than 30% aggressiveness and defensiveness racial bonuses is asking to lose due to poor stock combat bonus system...

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Not entirely true Parasite Long wars benefit you if your winning because it helps you EXPAND (via conquering/glassing enemy planets) and keeps your enemy from expanding.

If on the other hand you are losing a long war (or are losing enough numbers/resources that another enemy will overwhelm you) then you need to switch to a defensive strategy that employs lots of mines and warp point choke hold defenses.

For example in my one game I had 3 larger AI empires attacking my empire (fortunately at that point only 2 warp points led to my empire) so I laid Gigantic minefields and placed my warfleets at each warp point as I waited to rebuild.

If I lost a system I would simply blockade the next, sure i lost 8 star systems in 5 years and about 80 ships (which was a HUGE chunk of my navy) but in the end i whittled them down with attrition until their invasion fleets basically just ran out of steam and had to repair.

While they did that I rebuilt and launched a MASSIVE assult against the Cue Cappa systems, and in 20 years I not only retook my space but expanded to twice my original size (and the one enemy was totally washed away in the counter assault).


It all depends on how you play a long war out.

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Douglas said "For stock, "min/max your empire"."
Please tell me what you mean by this. Thanks!
Fuzzie

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Not entirely true Parasite Long wars benefit you if your winning because it helps you EXPAND (via conquering/glassing enemy planets) and keeps your enemy from expanding.

PBW experience leads me to agree with Parasite in this case. Prolonged wars hurt you in the long run because you expand more slowly than the rest of the empires, thus leaving you behind even if you win. Fast early wars put you way ahead, but slow ones put you behind.

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DeKaye, please reference this post:

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Sorry Fyron. Do not know what you mean. Do you want me to look at your refered to post, or to quote like you did? If you mean quoting, how do I do it? Still learning the how to's of message boarding.

Fuzzie

PS: is there more to this post than meets the eye? Some of the posts are confusing. It's like there is a "conversation" going on, but all the messages are not listed.

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I haven't been playing against other humans for very long, but I have learned that it is a very good idea to learn all you can about your enemy and even your allies. Then do not stop "keeping a tab" on how they fight, their weapon choices, etc. They will probably change on you. So always try to know what everyone else is up to. This is not easy to do, but it is worth trying.

Fuzzie

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Fyron, never mind. I get it, you wanted me to click the link! Thanks!

Fuzzie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

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Yes it is a stock game, and I currently have build ques set up so that about two hundred baseships finish building every eight turns. Look at the maintenance resource cost in the pic. Oh and btw, I guess the fact that I have 27 fully developed sphereworlds (180 monoliths per sphereworld) helps with the overabundance of resources http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Oh and sorry about the large fromat picture. I didn't realize it was that big.

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I only have one word to add Kerensky: retroseries rule. Okay, that was two.

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Kerensky? Are you sure secretly you're not Petey?

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20040904.html
By the looks of that game You seem awfully similar. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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If you are being attacked by a (far) larger empire, dig in. Mine all your WPs leading to his space to the max, place as many defense sats as allowed, and deploy fortress bases and defense fleets just in case he breaks through the mines and survives the sats. Station mothballed fleets at your planets/SY bases just in case he manages to survive the mines, sats and ships/bases with any semblance of strength left. If you can't support defenses that size, collapse all WPs leading to his territory and build System Grav shields. DO NOT ISOLATE YOURSELF!!! You only need to close the WPs to his space! He probably will open up another WP on you somewhere, but at least you'll buy yourself some time.

Otherwise, build up vast assault fleets somewhere secure (like a dead-end nebula system) and open a WP directly to the enemy's home system. Wham bang and you've dealt a good blow to his economy. Perhaps even crippled him, if he hasn't built up a decent economic base in other systems.

edit: corrected /bold tag

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Or even: http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20050724.html

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You mere mortals cannot fathom the sheer power harnessed in my mighty empire!!! Run in fear!!!

Now that you have discovered me, I must run and hide somewhere else.

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Read the FAQ (Oh, wait that was not allowed)

Advice for an actual newbie? More philosophy than actual tactics.

Be willing to lose the first few times.

Some of the best games in the world (chess, go) you will lose the first few 50-100 times while you get the "hang of it". Don’t let that discourage you from discovering a game that will hold your interest for years. Try out different strategies. If something doesn’t work, try, try, try again. With the various options of the combat simulator, starting with different tech levels and even playing against only yourself, you can test what works and maybe find new ways of conquering the galaxy.

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This one's for narf :

Conquer them with CHEESE! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Fuzzie

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It's...It's...It's like a beutifull idea whose like the galaxy has never seen before!

/me starts building a giant cheese-ship.

/me takes a sample, just to be sure the cheese is of good quality.

/me takes another, just to make sure it's got the right structure.

/me takes another, for quality testing purposes.

/me...

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You know Narf, your cheese ships have two main weaknesses...

1) You

2) Any sort of energy beam weapon that would roast your ships

Aside from taht your cheese ships should theoretially be invincible.

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Activate... [dramatic pause]... the fondu beam!

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Hey, in narf's defense, the stinky Limburger ray is a very nasty weapon! It is hard to concentrate on the target on the other side of your scopes when you're gagging and turning green. I do agree that maybe narf would be his own biggest down fall. All that cheese and an empire of mice. I don't think it would be a very good combination.

Okay, I better get back to our posts subject - newbie advice...... hmmmm, oh yeah - I'm a newbie! I already shared my advice from the newbie perspective. Oh well, someday I may have wisdom to partake to others. Sigh.

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LOL!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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/ me creates empire to counter narfs evil creation./

Behold! The Mighty Carcker Confederation!!!!!!!!

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/me pulls out cheese grater....

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Carcker?

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It's supposed to be cracker... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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If the Cheese Confederation falls, so to does the Carcker...Cracker Confederation!

And very tasty shall be their fall.

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Yes but you are forgetting two very important and key playeres here, the Wine Consortium and the Beef Stick Imperium, both of which we would be lost without as well.

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So who has more advice to give to wilhil?

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... said the raincloud in the corner...

Tut tut ...looks like Fyron.

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Now where do I remember that from...

No wine, but beaf sounds good.

On the other hand, Wilhil might still want advice.

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Narf & Kerensky: You guys should be making shipsets for the SPace Food Empires Mod and battling it out there.

Advice:
Rule #30: A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.