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Ragnarok November 17th, 2005 05:09 PM

The Patch!
 
The patch is out! Here is the link to SF download page.

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 05:15 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
OMG OMG OMG

/me does the happy dance

New Invasion! version with patch compatibility will be released today everyone be ready!

Iron Giant November 17th, 2005 05:17 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
73 mb - Holy Moley!
Is anything different from Gold?

Ragnarok November 17th, 2005 05:18 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Iron Giant said:
73 mb - Holy Moley!
Is anything different from Gold?

73MB is to patch from Classic to Deluxe. If you already have Gold you can just download the 2.68MB file.

Edit: I may be mistaken. The small file does not seem to want to upgrade. Perhaps you do have to download the entire 73MB file. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 05:20 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Ragnarok said:
Quote:

Iron Giant said:
73 mb - Holy Moley!
Is anything different from Gold?

73MB is to patch from Classic to Deluxe. If you already have Gold you can just download the 2.68MB file.

The difference from classic to gold/deluxe is significant.

wrong http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

the only people that can download the small file are the people that already have deluxe.

geoschmo November 17th, 2005 05:21 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
This is interesting. According to the description, the 73 MB patch will upgrade non-Gold SE4, as in version 1.49, up to 1.94. That would explain why it's 73 MB. I had not heard they were going to offer that. So basically anyone that never bought SE4 Gold can get fully updated now.

The patch for 1.91 is only 3 MB, which is probably mainly the new sound files.

Fyron November 17th, 2005 05:22 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
I think that might not work. It probably only includes changes from 1.93 to 1.94... It is too small to contain all of the changes since 1.60. 1.91 patch was 4.18 MB.

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 05:23 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
It says right there on the site the 2.68MB patch is only for patching Deluxe the other one(73MB) says its the patch for classic and gold...

Ragnarok November 17th, 2005 05:23 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
I think that might not work. It probably only includes changes from 1.93 to 1.94... It is too small to contain all of the changes since 1.60. 1.91 patch was 4.18 MB.

You guys are right. I tried going from 1.91 to 1.94 using the small file and it will not work. I am downloading the large file now.

It should be done in about half an hour. Horribly slow connection to SF; only 10kb/sec. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Wonder what changed from 1.93 (original deluxe release) to 1.94. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Iron Giant November 17th, 2005 05:25 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
[q]Upgrade Space Empires IV Original or Gold to Deluxe version 1.94[/q]

Isn't Gold what we all have here? In which case isn't the 73 mb download required for Gold users?

Fyron November 17th, 2005 05:27 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Ragnarok said:
Wonder what changed from 1.93 (original deluxe release) to 1.94. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Hopefully Aaron made tho game interpret track numbers as file names in Settings.txt so that 100% of Gold mods will work in Deluxe without modifcaiton.

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 05:28 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
The 73MB file comes from the upgrade to the .mp3 music system in deluxe. The patch includes all of the music in .mp3 format

geoschmo November 17th, 2005 05:29 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
So if you have Gold and are up to 1.91, you have to download the 73 MB file, of which all but probably about 5 MB is duplicates of files you already have. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Kind of inefficent, but ok...

EDIT: Oh, never mind. We all gotta stop posting at once. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

narf poit chez BOOM November 17th, 2005 05:29 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
That changelog is going to be interesting.

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 05:30 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
The patch starts up for me but just sits at the splash screen anyone else have this problem?

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 05:32 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Combat Wombat said:
The patch starts up for me but just sits at the splash screen anyone else have this problem?

haha shut it down and started it back up and it works now

Fyron November 17th, 2005 05:46 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
To help alleviate potentially clogged S1st bandwidth, we have added the patch to a BT tracker:

http://kazharii.no-ip.com:6969

See the stickied SE4 File Tracker thread for BT usage information.

geoschmo November 17th, 2005 05:58 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Ok, that was a little tricksy. In the past what I have done was copy my c urrent SE4 version, then upgrade the copy. I tried to do that here, browsed to where I made the copy, but it ignored that and upgraded my current version anyway. I guess it only upgrades the copy that it finds in your registry entries.

Still works ok, just something to keep in mind for anyone intending to keep version 1.91 also on your machine.

Combat Wombat November 17th, 2005 06:03 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

geoschmo said:
Ok, that was a little tricksy. In the past what I have done was copy my c urrent SE4 version, then upgrade the copy. I tried to do that here, browsed to where I made the copy, but it ignored that and upgraded my current version anyway. I guess it only upgrades the copy that it finds in your registry entries.

Still works ok, just something to keep in mind for anyone intending to keep version 1.91 also on your machine.

I don't think so, my current install has drifted between 2 computers, 3 hard drives and 4 or 5 OS installs and the patch still worked. Its alot easier to just copy it over than redownloading and installing everything off the cd again.

geoschmo November 17th, 2005 06:06 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Well, I don't know how it did it, but on my machine it most definetly upgraded the original that I left in the Shrapnel Games directory instead of the new copy I put in the Strategy First Directory.

General Woundwort November 17th, 2005 07:31 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Thank goodness for broadband!

Will November 17th, 2005 07:52 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
w00t! So now, when is the boxed version available so I can buy that?

Atrocities November 17th, 2005 07:57 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
When you get the download could you post it on SE.net?

Fyron November 17th, 2005 07:58 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
It is available on BT tracker:

http://kazharii.no-ip.com:6969/

Atrocities November 17th, 2005 08:01 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Man 77 megs! WTF.... Big Patch

Kana November 17th, 2005 08:15 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
If this is applied to your regular SE4 folder how will it effect your seperate PBW game/mod folders...?

Kana

Fyron November 17th, 2005 08:40 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Mods will not be affected. As with any other patch, you should not play turns with 1.94 until the host upglades the game. It is best to maintain 2 separate copies of SE4, one on 1.91 and one on 1.94, until all of your games are upgraded.

douglas November 17th, 2005 09:05 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
I just did some testing, and Gold 1.91 and Deluxe 1.94 appear to be fully compatible with each other. I started a game in 1.91, played the turn in 1.94, copied the plr file back to the 1.91 folder and executed the turn with 1.91, and it worked just fine. I can't guarantee nothing in Deluxe would cause problems in Gold, but I think it's a fairly safe bet that playing existing PBW games with 1.94 even before they're upgraded on PBW won't cause any problems.

geoschmo November 17th, 2005 09:13 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

douglas said:
I just did some testing, and Gold 1.91 and Deluxe 1.94 appear to be fully compatible with each other.

That jives with what I'm seeing as well. And from looking at the history file it makes sense. Other than the music and intro screens it appears the only difference was he fixed a couple of rare RCE errors.

Fyron November 17th, 2005 09:23 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
I would still advise against it. There have been undocumented changes before. Better safe than sorry, I think. PBW games shouldn't take that long to upgrade to Deluxe anyways.

kerensky November 17th, 2005 10:27 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
oaky so stupid me goes and patches the game, game looks great, but me forgets that all of the files in the main space empires file are not the vanilla game but a heavily modified personal version, you know the type where you say "I wonder if this will work" go type it in and find out. I didn't think that the patch would overwrite all of the data files so I didn't think to make a bachup copy of them. Thus, a large amount of modding coming close to, if not succeding, the scale of the devnull mod itself, has been lost, along with the ability to play a game that I have had going for about two years now. Does anyone know if I can fix this problem or am I just pretty much screwed for my stupidness?

(NOTE: you really don't have to respond nicely, I've already killed myself about three times right now because of it.)

Ed Kolis November 17th, 2005 10:35 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Errm... terribly sorry but if you have no backups then your data files are overwritten permanently... all I can say is next time remember to do your modding in a separate directory or at least a subdirectory of the SE4 directory... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

narf poit chez BOOM November 17th, 2005 10:36 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Well, certain rare tools can get files off drives, even if the've been overwritten, or so I've heard.

Of course, other than going to your local FBI offices and asking for help, I have no idea how you'd find them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Captain Kwok November 17th, 2005 10:38 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Well got in the patch, looks alright. I wonder if David will update that Jraenar space battle intro with the new title font? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Fyron November 17th, 2005 10:44 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
This is why it is a good idea to make all data file changes in a mod folder.

Those data recovery programs only work if none of the blocks in the old file were overwritten by anything. Sometimes they might work though...

kerensky November 17th, 2005 10:45 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Well then that's that I guess. I can remember most of the major changes I made and can probably tweak out the minor changes if I play enough.

Fyron November 17th, 2005 10:48 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
There are a lot of bad NAT errors on the tracker. Make sure to forward those ports for optimal performance guys!

Atrocities November 17th, 2005 11:34 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Ya! And no leeching either! You had better keep it going for the rest of us!

kerensky November 18th, 2005 12:28 AM

Re: The Patch!
 
Are thaes new hotkeys introduced with the patch or did I just never notice them before?

Quote:

Shift + click - Allows you to select multiple ships for movement in the list section of the Main Window.
Shift + A - Select all ships in the ship list.
Shift + C - Clear all selected ships in the ship list.



Slick November 18th, 2005 12:32 AM

Re: The Patch!
 
Sorry, they were there before.

David E. Gervais November 18th, 2005 08:32 AM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Captain Kwok said:
Well got in the patch, looks alright. I wonder if David will update that Jraenar space battle intro with the new title font? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

ok, now you have me confused,.. What Jraenar Space Battle Intro? you mean the 'SE:IV Gold' into with the EEE atacking the Jraenar starbase? Well, it's for the 'Gold' version so why would I change the logo to say Deluxe? and FYI I did not do the Deluxe logo, One of SFI's artists did.

anyways, I'm not going to change the Gold logo to match the deluxe, sorry. Besides now my Gold Intro screen can become a collector's item http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif lol

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities November 18th, 2005 09:03 AM

Re: The Patch!
 
David I like the new Deluxe intro.... Very nice. Don't let these combat junkies push you into changing it.

Ragnarok November 18th, 2005 12:13 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:
David I like the new Deluxe intro.... Very nice. Don't let these combat junkies push you into changing it.

Do you mean Deluxe or Gold? David just said he did not make the Deluxe intro screen. However, he did make the Gold instro screen and that is the one Kwok asked to be changed.

David E. Gervais November 18th, 2005 12:56 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
I did indeed make the intro screen for SE4:Deluxe, I just did not make the font/logo for SE4:Deluxe.

I thought I was clear on that, but I guess I somehow explained wrong.

Anyhow, Cheers!

Ragnarok November 18th, 2005 01:18 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

David E. Gervais said:
I did indeed make the intro screen for SE4:Deluxe, I just did not make the font/logo for SE4:Deluxe.

I thought I was clear on that, but I guess I somehow explained wrong.

Anyhow, Cheers!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif Oops...I think I'll go hide in a corner now. I wasn't distinguishing the difference between the logo and intro screen. My bad. Excellent work, David! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Thermodyne November 18th, 2005 01:35 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
I wonder if there is a way to call the patch from the command line and then point it at a particular install folder with a switch?

Renegade 13 November 18th, 2005 04:19 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Ragnarok said:
It should be done in about half an hour. Horribly slow connection to SF; only 10kb/sec. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Try doing it at <3kb/s ... it'll only take 8 hours or so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Why, oh why couldn't there be a Gold->Deluxe patch separate from Classic->Deluxe! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

narf poit chez BOOM November 18th, 2005 08:23 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
The patch is probably a simple over-write of everything that's changed. A lot easier than isolating changes by version.

douglas November 18th, 2005 08:37 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Even just a Gold->Deluxe patch would still have to contain almost 32 MB of mp3 files plus whatever else is needed for the minor changes.

Fyron November 18th, 2005 09:03 PM

Re: The Patch!
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Try doing it at <3kb/s ... it'll only take 8 hours or so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Why, oh why couldn't there be a Gold->Deluxe patch separate from Classic->Deluxe! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

This is a good case for BT download. No fears about disconnects. http://kazharii.no-ip.com:6969 and http://www.utorrent.com for a 105 KB client.


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