Wish Questions
 

Got a couple of questions about wish and could not find answers on the board earlier.

Can you wish for a summoned creature by name? For instance, in my SP game as Man, I'd like to wish for Pazuzu for the heck of it. Normally, he requires 7B which I don't have... To my knowledge, no one else has summoned him.

If someone has summoned Pazuzu or any other named creature, and I wish for him, will he come with normal magic skills? I seem to have read that wishing for units in this fashion delivers them without leadership and magic. Is this true?

Generally speaking, what are the most effective uses of wish? I know you can wish for gems, etc, but I am guessing strategic use of wish can be a real asset.

Thanks,
L

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you can't wish for pazuzu specifically, but you can wish for what he is. For instance I have wished for another queen of elemental air when I already had them all summoned, And I got an extra one. Yes they show up as a unit and not as a leader, so you have to cast gift of reason on them. When you do cast gift of reason, they will become a leader with all their inherent magic skills.

I have found that wishing for power, provinces, and dominion have interesting effects. I usually end up wishing for ettins (I can't figure out why it doesn't accept ettin monragora) or natarajas... then throwing gift of reason on them and equiping the living snot out of them.

I wished for an immortal once, and got the one that heals units. That was cool.

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I might try mandragora.

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actually i think its mandragora ettin, not ettin mandragora. but i cant remember (never wish for a dragon cause without gift of reason he will come in sage form) i also wished for an aboleth once and i got it but its not that good anyway so..... try wishing for items suck as precious or greenstone armour from the troll raider or one of my personal favourite helms (if u already have amon hotem) the sun helm

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neither work

and, save for quantum_mechani, I think we all have the critical reading skills to recognize a simple typo when we see one.

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ETTIN MANDRAGORA. it works and ive just tried it. you should make sure: you spell it right, it DOES appear as a unit not a commander and make sure your not underwater

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If you tried a wish, and it didn't work, and there's a misspelling in what you wished for. . . it's not ENTIRELY unreasonable to ask if that's cause and effect .

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It might be nice if Wish had a somewhat variable cost based on what you wish for.

And/or, make it so that wishing for something generally hostile, like a devil or especially a Horror, would sometimes (or always) result in one showing up that was not obedient, but attacked either the province or the caster.

After all, a common theme of wishes in literature is to be careful what you wish for, and sometimes, that whatever you wish for, often ends up having unintended side-effects that make you wish you hadn't wished for whatever it was.

PvK

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If you wish for "death" or "nothing" it isn't exactly good.

And ettin mandragora does work.

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i was mispelling it.

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Irrelevant. Wishing for a unique will still give you that unique, regardless of how many are already in play. What I'm not certain about is whether or not Wishing for a few dozen Lords of the Plague Wind will prevent others from summoning Pazuzu by ordinary means. For that matter, will killing a single Pazuzu set his state to "unsummoned", and allow another to be summoned? Or must it be a conventionally-summoned Pazuzu, which gets some sort of hidden tag?

There seems to be a lot of confusion on this pretty straightforward issue. Wished-for creatures are always units, not commanders. This means that they cannot use their magic until Gift of Reasoned, not that they haven't got their magic. I don't think there's anything in the game that can actually take away a unit's magic levels.

If you've got the Arcane Nexus up, gems are your best bet. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. Ditto if you've got an Alteration-boosting site. I suppose you might want to Wish for the Hammer of the Cyclops. Half-priced Soul Contracts, Robes of the Magi, Rings of Sorcery and Wizardry, artifacts et cetera are never a bad thing.

Of course, there's nothing preventing the other players from just Wishing those artifacts away from you. Speaking of which, Wishing away an enemy uber-SC's weapon or armor right before a battle can sometimes be a worthwhile use of 100 pearls.

Last of all, some favor the "200 Queens of Storms and a Queen of the Deeps" approach, and I can't say I blame them, even though I don't find it all that fun.

PS - Doom Horrors are, like, so overrated.

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instead of a doom horror, try a vastness. Similar to doom horror, but without the bad luck.

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It's Astral magic is a weakness! The Astral 2 Vastness gets when it is Gift of Reasoned is so low that even a lucky Sage can kill it. There isn't much benefit from the magic either, because the Vastness is already comparable to raw power (read: Doom Horrors).

However, one of the few spesific things we know about Dominions III is:
unique Doom Horrors! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

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You might find some use to something like wish for armageddon. It should wreak some havoc everywhere, so if you are in a better shape to live through it, why not?

I was thinking about wishing for that in one game (hiya Panther), and I heard it has been used to good effect in the past.

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A Go player would say that...

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wishing for armagedon will wreak havoc on the biggest armies in games, since it destroys a %of all things in the world (can be quite useful if ermor is at your doorstep even though they get them back for free) wishing for dominion can also be useful as can blood slaves (250 slaves for 100 gems yes please)

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Can it kill regardless of HPs? I thought it did a range of damage to units, say 1-20 to all affected, thus killing many, but not killing anything of sufficient HPs.

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
I wonder how many get it.

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If you want to see what wishing for population does, you can see my AAR (Post#395511) turn 146+.

Short form: If you do, you will regret it.

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Sunray's Virtual Library at http://www.freewebs.com/dominions2/ .

* "Population" : brings more pop (+20%) in a random province you control.

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I would say that that would be good based on the power of your commander or Pretender that did the wishing. For example if your Pretender is a Master Lich like mine in Hellscape with 65 Magic Paths a 100+ Hitpoints like 45 Strength 30 Precision a ton of Defense and Attack and eats Doom Horrors for breakfast then whatever you wish for will so Oh crap I'd better serve this guy the best I can or he's gonna smack my *** down.

But if its just some weakling that is barely able to cast wish then maybe a chance that they say "who does this fool think he is summoning me here I'm gonna teach this guy a lesson" might fit the bill.

But honestly I dont really see any reason to do all that. Its fine just as it is. But if they did make it so that there was a chance they would attack then thats how I'd do it.

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Well, in Dominions 3, wishing for Doom Horrors by the general term or by a spesific unique title (Abomination of Desolation, Maker of Ruing, Eater of Gods) will result in a random Doom Horror, who might attack the caster instead of becoming a commander in your control. Even the Doom Horrors that are under your control disappear after a while.

Of course, this just means that in Dom3, Wish is used to summon non-unique angels (Seraphs and Chayots) instead of Doom Horrors, and Death nations release dead gods from their prison in Tartarus.

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