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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm

Posted some lyrics of songs of your favorite band online? Prepare to be thrown in jail!

I sure hope the music industry dies soon...

EDIT:

More link:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051209-5730.html

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OK, so if you bought a CD and want to know what it is they're singing or if you want to be able to play it yourself, you'll be facing legal action?!? WTF kind of bullsh*t is this?!? And where does this guy get the idea that finding lyrics online is depriving the songwriter of his work/income? Does he even know what he's talking about? Jesus!

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"Does he even know what he is talking about?"

Chances are no, no he does not. It is just a way for him to justify his huge six figure consulting fee of a salary.

Its like the movie industry saying piracy is the sole reason why box office sales are down when in fact its people fed up to the rafters with having to pay $10.50 to see a half hour of commericals before the movie previews even begin.

This is just another fine example of the music industrys never ending line of bull**** designed to rip people off.

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OYu know an interesting thing that I found online some time ago when I was looking for sheet music to some popular songs at the time (I play piano), I was having trouble finding songs that had both the lyrics and the written music on the same paper for free. I could get what I wanted if I paid for it. It turns out that record companies (who are the actual owners of the songs) don't mind if you put up either the words or the sheet music for free, you just can't put them up together on the same page.

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Didn't mind the legal action for illegally sharing/distributing songs (yes, I know, nomenclature: Worms, can of, one each) but certainly this has crossed the line of what's fair in pursuit of profits. Not sure how this cuts back on sales as I've never known ANYONE who said they needed to purchase an album/CD so they could find out what the words were to a specific song.

I guess, the next step will be not being allowed to repeat the words outloud.

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I think the best thing to do is to start a movement against the Music Industry. A movement that boycotts the industry because of its bull**** tactics and utter refusal to accept and embrace the desires and wishes of their customer base.

Give us what we want, nothing more, give us the songs, lyrics, what the ***k ever at a fair price, in any medium we want, and keep the fluff and bull**** where it belongs, in the recycle bin.

To bad artists can't just go direct to the public and bypass these fat, over paid, greedy, narrow minded, selfish, elitist jerks who run the Record Industry.

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Here here.

I think these guys are going to be taking a lot of flak from customers and artists alike in the coming period, when this story hits the "regular" (i.e. old-fashioned, non-Internet) news media all over the States. We've not seen the last of this, mark my words.

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Can I quote you on that, or do I have to pay you royalities?

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Dear lord. So if I buy a CD, and the lyrics aren't included with it (which is becoming more and more often the case), and I go pull them off the net coz I can't understand some of it, I'm 'depriving an artist of his livelyhood'? I just BOUGHT his CD FFS!
When I hear stuff like that it puts me in the mood to go and download every single album I can think of, because if the industry is right, this will lead to the destruction of the music industry, the sacking of corporate fat-cats (I'd prefer the shooting thereof, but it's an imperfect world), and the chance for a new system to be created that's based on art and not profit.
God, I wish they were right.

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The Independent music industry is gaining more and more oomph all the time. You can find songs by independent artisits quite easily on online music stores like Itunes. Just as easily as big labels, in fact. Even though I would never purchase music containing any form of Digital Restrictions Management technology, I must still applaud Apple for making it easy for independent labels to get their music sold online, as opposed to B&M stores that only want to sell the latest Spears and 50 cents.

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Shoot them? Nay, you are too kind, too humane for these wicked creatures. Hanging them slowly would be the smallest punishment warranted; though my personal choice would be to strap them into a chair and send electrical stimuli to the pain centers in their brains, keeping them alive until they die of old age.

You may quote me as much as you like, but to do it you must sign this written document, in triplicate, at section 3b, paragraph 4, at section 6 paragraphs 2, 4 and 7, and at section 8c paragraph 3 line 17. You must keep record of all quotes in at least four different independent locations next to us, and any unregistered and unapproved quote will be answered with legal action as stated in section 2, paragraph 5.

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Incredibly, this was also the position of the ASCAP (American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers) when radio became a viable commercial medium. They tried to prevent anyone using the new technology because you could listen to their music without paying the money up front like you had to with sheet music. Horrors! Funny how the new system they worked out with broadcast fees has made so many 'artists' into muli-mega-millionares over the last several decades since the creation of radio. And this despite the corporations still skimming most of the cash for themselves. Yep, that evil new technology called 'radio' is gonna ruin the music industry. But not the thieving corporations, of course... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

In practice, ASCAP is simply an earlier version of the RIAA, being much more concerned for itself than for the artists it supposedly 'protects'... so this latest stupid lawyer trick from the RIAA companies is not a new phenomenon.

http://www.woodpecker.com/writing/es...-politics.html

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And then the media raises all hell when somebody figures out Microsoft has a rather large share of the market..... Monopoly prevention my a**, these pocket-filling bastards are more monopolistically-minded than the Mafia! It's about time somebody gathered all available info on these A-holes and e-mailed it to as many major TV and radio stations as possible, and preferably several law firms as well. It's about time the general public got to know what these guys are up to, so we can finally put an end to their practices and enter into an era of (relatively) unbridled creativity. I mean it.

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Well this is an interesting twist...

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051216-5786.html

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And now it resumes on another front:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051218-5797.html

Calling the ability to convert analog video content to a digital format a "significant technical weakness in content protection," H.R. 4569 would require all consumer electronics video devices manufactured more than 12 months after the DTCSA is passed to be able to detect and obey a "rights signaling system" that would be used to limit how content is viewed and used. That rights signaling system would consist of two DRM technologies, Video Encoded Invisible Light (VEIL) and Content Generation Management System—Analog (CGMS-A), which would be embedded in broadcasts and other analog video content.

Under the legislation, all devices sold in the US would fall under the auspices of the DTCSA: it would be illegal to "manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide or otherwise traffic" in such products. It's a dream-come-true for Hollywood, and in combination with a new broadcast flag legislation (not yet introduced) would strike a near-fatal blow to the long-established right of Fair Use.


In other words, it's just unfair that we can listen to the music or watch the video with devices that might record the output and give us control of reproducing it. This bill is an attempt to force all manufacturers to build DRM into even basic devices like standard TVs and VCRs to prevent unauthorized access to the media content we have bought.

Further discussion on Slashdot:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?s...219&tid=17

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And here's something funny (or not?) from the Slashdot discussion:

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Whenever you think it can\'t get any worse...
 

it does!

RIAA Lawyer Bullies Witness into Perjury:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?s...87&tid=141

Yep, they've got witnesses standing up in court and describing how the RIAA lawyer has threatened them to make them tell the story he wants in court, even if it isn't true:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051230-5871.html